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would you buy Birmingham in Binaural ?

Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:42 pm

... If presented in Binaural, and cleaned up / improved , would

a re-release of this classic concert work? Response to the Binau

track[s] on one of the Legendary Performers, last year, got

mixed reviews. Some liked it, while others got a headache from

it... Now, a real good engineer [ and not the good willing amateur

from madison...] could improve it a lot. But would that be enough,

to empty your pockets for the 2nd time around?

Go for it, brother/ sister jumpsuit junkies. Speak up!

Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:47 pm

Are we talking about Burning In Birmingham? In which case yes, this could well do with a sound enhancement. Question: would it have to be binaural? It could be mixed to give a decent mono sound. Not having heard the tracks you refer to - how is the sound image presented?

Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:13 pm

Depends on the quality of course and on the separation of instruments, vocals etc.... I suppose that binaural tape - in any case - need corrections (the channel balance). But if there is solid binaural version, then it deserve to be released in binaural, not mixed into straight mono.

Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:14 pm

No.

I don't like the binaural recordings at all. Having one or two selections per CD is tolerable. However, if an entire concert that has already been released surfaces as a binaural recording, I'll pass on it.

Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:18 pm

I would buy it for sure because the already existing release "Burning In Burmingham" has a sound that is not much better than an audience recording.

I usually don't buy re-releases, but in this case I would make an exception.

By the way, these Legendaries are GREAT CD's.

Re: would you buy Birmingham in Binaural ?

Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:19 pm

Tallhair AKA Ger Rijff wrote:... If presented in Binaural, and cleaned up / improved , would

a re-release of this classic concert work? Response to the Binau

track[s] on one of the Legendary Performers, last year, got

mixed reviews. Some liked it, while others got a headache from

it... Now, a real good engineer [ and not the good willing amateur

from madison...] could improve it a lot. But would that be enough,

to empty your pockets for the 2nd time around?

Go for it, brother/ sister jumpsuit junkies. Speak up!


What a coinicidence Ger, I just mentioned this idea over on the Unchained Melody thread.
So, of course, yes. Would you like my credit card number? :wink:

Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:22 pm

I'd buy anything, me!!

I think a lot would depend on the packaging too for lots of people. The original booklet is pretty ordinary with 6 low res B&W shots inside. Turn it out as a "Hampton Concert" style gatefold sleeve with quality booklet and watch it fly off the shelves (IMO).

18400 can't be wrong!!

Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:23 pm

When the sound would be improved I'll buy it for sure. Burning in Birmingham has a weak sound.

Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:25 pm

Ton Bruins wrote:When the sound would be improved I'll buy it for sure. Burning in Birmingham has a weak sound.


This show really deserves the best possible presentation, both sound wise and graphically.

Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:28 pm

Ger, I haven't heard the binaural outcome.. :oops:
But the mono sound on the original boot is mediocre.

If this "new" source can be used to improve things,
either binaural or mono... I would welcome an upgrade! :o

Why?

It's one of the best '76 performances :wink:

Cheers, RJ

Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:51 pm

A new remastered version would be GREAT!!

The version of 'The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face' where he tells the band 'to lay out except David Briggs is BRILLIANT!.

The one cd in more brilliant sound, if possible, would be 'A Hot Winter Night In Dallas' ofcourse... What a GREAT show is that!

8)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:58 pm

Ger, can I just add that it warms the cockles to see you start a thread about December '76 :wink:

Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:27 pm

I would, but that's only because

it's one I don't have already.

8)

Would You Buy Birmingham In Binaural?

Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:38 pm

Ger Rijff wrote:
... If presented in Binaural, and cleaned up / improved , would

a re-release of this classic concert work?

Most definitely!

I personally love the clarity on the previous binaural recordings I have heard, so the prospect of this great show in better sound is a very exciting prospect.

Along with a nice booklet--a surefire winner I would say.

Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:59 pm

BIGREDG wrote:Ger, can I just add that it warms the cockles to see you start a thread about December '76 :wink:

I can feel "A Profile Vol. 3 - December '76" coming on ... 8)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:26 pm

Thomas wrote:
BIGREDG wrote:Ger, can I just add that it warms the cockles to see you start a thread about December '76 :wink:

I can feel "A Profile Vol. 3 - December '76" coming on ... 8)


I think a Profile 3 should be a mix of years if indeed it ever gets done.

I did not like the idea of a 100% Huntsville '75 Box Set, and much as I love the December 76 tour (and a few of the Vegas shows too!!) I would much rather see a mix of shows from '71-'77 :)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:39 pm

I certainly would buy it; it is a great show with a nice setlist for the period. Doesn't have to be binaural, a mono release with improved sound would do!

Re: would you buy Birmingham in Binaural ?

Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:05 pm

Tallhair AKA Ger Rijff wrote:... If presented in Binaural, and cleaned up / improved , would

a re-release of this classic concert work?


It is possible to mix these binaural tapes in a way that makes a fuller "stereo" image. I have done so with the binaural cuts from Charlotte, March 20 1976 and it worked splendidly.

However, the tape containing this Birmingham show is so badly damaged overall and so "lousy" in binaural version, that I think it is impossible to get a good result. I tried for fun with the cut on Leg. Per Vol. X, but with not success.

So, give someone a good tape of this show and everything is possible. But the soundboard used for "Burning In Birmingham" and "Leg. Perf. Vol. X" is way to poor to give a decent result!

Regards

Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:09 pm

would you buy Birmingham in Binaural ?


Of course i would buy it,and many other shows too,simply because i still don't own them. Maybe you know something we don't know? Will somebody re-release it in this year?

But the soundboard used for "Burning In Birmingham" and "Leg. Perf. Vol. X" is way to poor to give a decent result!


Ger wrote earlier,that the master tape was used for Burning In Birmingham... if i remember well.

would you buy

Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:35 pm

... the original sb was used for Burning, sadly enough the recording

was not one of the better sounding sbs. Madison lended the original

tape for their Legendary series, and choose to release it as originally

recorded, in binaural, for rarity's sake.

... But... when released in mono, the first time around, possibillities

to improve the sound were rather limited, compared to what can

be done nowdays, by a pro engineer. When Madison re- released

it in binau, it was done at home, and not in a studio, therefore

only getting mediocre results.

... No gurantee, a pro can blast you out of your shoes, re working

the tape... but its worth a try, so Ive been told by them rascal

boot boys... And if it doesnt sound good in binaural, it could still

come out better [ in mono] and acompanied with a booklet, it

is still worth buying. Otherwise some cheapos rip the old cd before

my boss can say 'bloodynogoodsonsofb*tches! ' :shock:

Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:38 pm

To answer the question: yes.

Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:05 pm

I'm with Rob, I don't like binaural either. I'd prefer to have the show mixed down to mono.

Keith Richards, Jr.

Re: would you buy

Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:14 pm

Tallhair AKA Ger Rijff wrote:... the original sb was used for Burning, sadly enough the recording

was not one of the better sounding sbs. Madison lended the original

tape for their Legendary series, and choose to release it as originally

recorded, in binaural, for rarity's sake.

... But... when released in mono, the first time around, possibillities

to improve the sound were rather limited, compared to what can

be done nowdays, by a pro engineer. When Madison re- released

it in binau, it was done at home, and not in a studio, therefore

only getting mediocre results.

... No gurantee, a pro can blast you out of your shoes, re working

the tape... but its worth a try, so Ive been told by them rascal

boot boys... And if it doesnt sound good in binaural, it could still

come out better [ in mono] and acompanied with a booklet, it

is still worth buying. Otherwise some cheapos rip the old cd before

my boss can say 'bloodynogoodsonsofb*tches! ' :shock:


So tell us Ger, do you think we're gonna get this in '07?

Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:16 pm

Yes, if the sound is better!

Burning in Burmingnam is one of the best shows!

JEFF d
EAP fan

Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:25 pm

Birmingham is a fantastic Elvis show. And while a lot of collectors have it on boot, it would be nice if FTD issued it officially so that fans who do not have easy access to boots could purchase of Elvis' finest shows from the end of his career.