Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:20 pm
Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:25 pm
Remember when Elvis looked great in 69--he was on a yogurt diet, was riding a stationary cycle and practiced his concert routine with leg weights.
Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:32 pm
midnightx wrote:Remember when Elvis looked great in 69--he was on a yogurt diet, was riding a stationary cycle and practiced his concert routine with leg weights.
Well, he looked fantastic in 1969, but certainly a yogurt diet wasn't a healthy long-term solution. He relied on gimmicks, pills and crash-diets to keep a thin waistline for years. Obviously it caught up with him once his depression, drug addiction, and poor eating habits took over.
Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:59 pm
Spanish_Eyes wrote:Still, is very strange how he gained it so rapidly in the last years of his life. Pics from Elvis in July 74 during a karate demonstration in Memphis, or some pics of his free time in the same period of time, reminds of a 70 Elvis. He's thinner than On Tour and I'd even say than Aloha itself
Strangely, in the time of a month he gained quite an amount of weight that it was noticeable during the Vegas gig, leading to the infamous October tour when he had ballooned.
Odd it's also the fact that his face could appear slim and his waist bloated, like in these candid pics of the aforementioned Vegas engagement, making a bizarre picture of himself.
I have also made an appreciation in these past years after watching Elvis' photos. In the summer of 1976 Elvis appeared to be fat, not bloated, like the average overweight guy. Although, in 1977 he looks more bloated than fat to me, I mean, something beyond his dieting or exercise habits.
As someone has mentioned before, a quite number of drugs were coursing his organism in the 3 last years of his life. Some could had a bloating effect, but others just the opposite.
Above all, it puzzles me how a guy who had always been proud and conscious about his physichal appearance let himself go in the end.
Pics courtesy of Paul
Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:12 pm
Ramiro wrote:But still, the second pic you show is very strange, it looks like if someone altered it to make Elvis appear fatter or perhaps it is simply a bad shot that makes him appear fatter than he actually was. His face looks even thin but his waist is strangely bloated.
Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:14 pm
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Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:19 pm
Kuenzer wrote:Ramiro wrote:But still, the second pic you show is very strange, it looks like if someone altered it to make Elvis appear fatter or perhaps it is simply a bad shot that makes him appear fatter than he actually was. His face looks even thin but his waist is strangely bloated.
Yes, the bullet proof vest clearly shows ...
Do we have a medical expert on board who could tell us something on the long term effects of diet pills?
Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:32 pm
Spanish_Eyes wrote:Diet pills were (as they are illegal now but not back then) basically amphetamines. The "diet" was due to their anorexic effect: they affect the brain in a way that the person loses the appetit. On the other hand, they also excite the patient so he is able to spend more time performing a physical demanding activity, with the consequence of more fat burning in less time. Amphetamines usually don't create an intake habit, because they don't cause physical or psychological addiction.
To counteract these effects, Elvis took big quantities of "downers" (opiates and barbiturates). These drugs , they cause a heavy addiction (both psychological and in the case of opiates also physical, meaning severe pain, nauseae and vomits if a longtime has passed since the last shot) and also slow down the peristaltic movements, this is, the bowel movements, hence severe episodes of constipation can happen--> the abdominal area bloats.
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:41 am
Elvis' Babe wrote:another thing that blows out of proportion his stomach is the fact that he had EXTREMELY narrow shoulders. the jumpsuits, shirts that weren't thinning on the shoulders, and any kind of jacket usually gave him a more proportionate look on the upper half of his body. wouldn't be half-surprised if the puff-sleeves look was done for a similar reason as the high collars hiding his skinny neck.
Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:51 am
Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:35 pm
Erhan wrote:
depressions, drugs, cheated ex-wife, colonel, RCA took his reason for living...
Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:48 pm
Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:51 pm
Matthew wrote:Erhan wrote:
depressions, drugs, cheated ex-wife, colonel, RCA took his reason for living...
You are right, his ex-wife was cheated on a great deal by her husband. Are you suggesting Elvis' guilt for cheating so much contributed to his condition?
Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:43 am
Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:39 am
Cryogenic wrote:Elvis' Babe is more or less correct. Elvis' shoulders left a very small visual print next to his stomach. He was always skinny, or slender, in some aspects of his shape. Whenever an impersonator dons a jumpsuit, even a slim impersonator with a good suit, they always look burly. And just ask anyone that's seen Elvis' clothing up close -- he was a small guy.
Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:23 pm
Elvis' Babe wrote:pretty much my point...and about seeing his clothes up close--first thing i thought when i saw his clothes is, 'my god, i don't think i'm skinny enough to fit into his clothes'. it was a bit like looking at old civil war general uniforms--i feel gargantuan next to these itty bitty clothes and i'm hardly a large girl. and the funny thing is that elvis was quite tall (about 6'). even his 'fat' clothes a.k.a. the jumpsuits--even they don't really look big up-close. 99% (or a good majority) of the people who walk through graceland probably couldn't fit into the sundial suit--elvis had a paunch that was disproportionate to his size, but he was never "big" or "fat" in the true senses of those words. forget imagining yourself in his clothes from '68 or ttwii... and if you think elvis' wedding tux looked like it was fitted for jack skeleton, take a look at anything worn by cilla--her clothes look midget-sized!
yes--he did get a bit more buff circa '68-ttwii. still--his insecurities about his body must have been on schizo during the army inductions--at a time when he really was physically young (he frankly looks the youngest of the bunch--and definitely the only one who could be considered "boyish")--and emotionally it is probably true that he never really grew up past his first million.
for the record--when i was mentioning his hands, i know i'm not off my rocker, because my mom made the same observation while watching king creole--and i hadn't mentioned that i had observed it as well.
as for the shoulders--i think elvis' reaction to ursula andress having wider than shoulders than him, sums it up (if he didn't have the insecurity, he wouldn't have had a reaction to it). elvis seemed to have a lot of insecurities about his body--shoulders, neck, limbs, etc... any sane person would think he looked fantastic and drop dead gorgeous--but a person always sees the faults more than the pluses--that's fact. elvis wasn't any different. in fact, elvis was severely insecure.
personally--i like his slender frame, slender neck, etc... i'm not putting down on him (lol--if you only knew what i really think about his appearance--and *that* voice--you'd have me kicked off this board sooner than i could post it).
most men would kill to have his looks or voice separately, much less in one package. yet, he felt like rest of the average folk...though i think because of the attention given to his appearance, his insecurities about it were heightened. witness his reaction to the "fat and 40" headline...he took it really badly.
casting elvis or impersonating elvis is nearly impossible, not only because of how unique he was and how easy it is to pulverize a portrayal with cheesy impersonations--whereas his way was VERY natural. for films, they usually cast somebody who is about 5'6" and too skinny/little, and if a guy of the right height is cast, their frame is usually too broad (and this is without them weighing 300 pounds). you either get a wimp or a blimp.
Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:45 pm
Elvis' Babe wrote:in fact, elvis was severely insecure.
Elvis' Babe wrote:casting elvis or impersonating elvis is nearly impossible [...] you either get a wimp or a blimp.
Ramiro wrote:I understand and agree with you more now. Regarding Elvis' clothes, I've heard that they look small, even someone said that Elvis' jumpsuits displayed at Graceland could have been altered to look smaller, but this is only gossip. Also, the visual impression of clothes without anybody inside makes them appear small, especially jumpsuits, because they are made of elastic fabric and without a body inside, washed and displayed, they tend to shrink.
Raimiro wrote:George Harrison, from The Beatles, met Elvis during his MSG concerts and was shocked about his appearance with the white jumpsuit he wore, he said that he looked 8' tall and a kind of Lord Shiva, a perfect man.
Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:49 pm
Erhan wrote:Matthew wrote:Erhan wrote:
depressions, drugs, cheated ex-wife, colonel, RCA took his reason for living...
You are right, his ex-wife was cheated on a great deal by her husband. Are you suggesting Elvis' guilt for cheating so much contributed to his condition?
I was refering Mike Stone and Cilla...
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