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Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:23 pm

PEP,

The information from J about the suits worn is correct. Elvis didn't wear the suit on the cover of MSG album during any of the shows from the June 1972 tour.

The book from Erik-Skarr is correct about the suit for June 11th but in error for the cape.

FECC Team

Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:33 pm

J wrote:
Ciscoking wrote:
J wrote:You shouldn't trust on those books too much. Of course sometimes those kind of books can be very much of help,
but they also contain a lot of mistakes, especially with the names of the suits. :wink:


Where do we know from we can trust you..?? :wink:

What´s your sources...??


I'm using Leroy's lists, and as you probably already know, Leroy knows a thing or two about Elvis' wardrobe. :wink:


I am using Leroy`s lists..too..lol...
Yes..he`s the best.....Leroy where are you, my friend ..??

Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:37 pm

It can also be noted that on the June 10 eve show the musicians wear lightblue while on the June 11th they wear black.

Sincerely
Brian
http://www.brian56.dk

Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:03 am

PEP wrote:In Paul Lichter's book he writes this:
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This time it's a completely different suit, my guess
he's talking about the same suit which was used on
the original Album cover of the evening show released
in 72' with Gold Linning.....


The very fact that Paul Lichter has says it makes me go look towards more reliable sources...

Axe

Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:42 am

administrator wrote:PEP,

The information from J about the suits worn is correct. Elvis didn't wear the suit on the cover of MSG album during any of the shows from the June 1972 tour.

The book from Erik-Skarr is correct about the suit for June 11th but in error for the cape.

FECC Team


How could RCA be so ignorant as to do this? It's not even a good picture of our guy. As this thread has shown us, there are countless of great photos they could have used for that album cover. These are the things that piss me off about the Colonel and RCA, they're lack of attention to detail when it came to EP's work. Just slap on any picture of Elvis, he will sell records anyway, frickin a--holes. To me, they didn't deserve to have him as a client.

Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:59 am

Col. Parker always seemed to pick the worst shots for album covers in the 70's...

Axe

Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:51 am

Axeman wrote:Col. Parker always seemed to pick the worst shots for album covers in the 70's...

Axe


I always thought this shot was pretty cool... 8)

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which 4 suits

Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:46 am

... "Allo eveybody!"... welcome to ze Elvi' jumpsuit fashion parade!

Ah, allo Pierre, allo Maurice, mon petit! Ze clothes by ze King are

zo incredible!... Zo sexy! I could go on for 'ours and 'ours about

zis subject! O' gay brothers and sisters, please do continue!

... O yeah! Great to have learned his belt buckle wasnt worn

upside down during the entire show. Thank you, administrator,

for pointing that out to us...! Bye- bye now, my little angels... :wink:

Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:22 am

Ger...I know your just having some fun here...
an we all know your not into these suits at all...

But some of us are...an trust me its not a Gay
thing....

As far as I'm concerned these suits are like fine
pieces of "Art' that was unique for one person only
and that person of course was Elvis....

He got away with it for along time....and still does....
as the look is timeless no matter what you may think....

These suits were part of Elvis' History, no different
than his music...

All three generations of Elvis is not for everyone...
this I know, but to each his own...

For me it doesn't matter what period we are talking
about, it's all good....well execpt the drug thing :twisted:

Anyway....no need to come across like everyone
who is into these suits is Gay.....

Hey man, you forget who was wearing the suits?

He was No Liberace you know...Big difference...

It was the 70's nothing we can do about that....

It is what it is....

PEP 8)

which 4 suits

Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:03 pm

... Allo Peppy!... Yes I was just kiddin' . But believe me, or better

not, as an outsider to the jumpsuit cult, this topic reads very g g g...

well, you know!? My problem with his wardrobe is : he more or less

died in one of these suits... and will be forever remembered that

way. Had he died in 70 [ sorry for having to put it so blunt] it would

not have mattered. Every rock star, back then looked somewhat

silly. I know that. But by 77 it was like Liberace. To me anyway.

But to each his own.

Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:04 pm

PEP wrote:Hey man, you forget who was wearing the suits?


Good point PEP......
Ger???

Re: which 4 suits

Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:22 pm

Tallhair AKA Ger Rijff wrote:... Allo Peppy!... Yes I was just kiddin' . But believe me, or better

not, as an outsider to the jumpsuit cult, this topic reads very g g g...

well, you know!? My problem with his wardrobe is : he more or less

died in one of these suits... and will be forever remembered that

way. Had he died in 70 [ sorry for having to put it so blunt] it would

not have mattered. Every rock star, back then looked somewhat

silly. I know that. But by 77 it was like Liberace. To me anyway.

But to each his own.


Personally Ger the main reason why I think the
jumpsuits initially got the bad wrap is mainly
because of the impersonators, especially when
you see a fat ugly balding mother walking around
thinking he's cool....dosen't help the image any...

But hey I understand where your coming from....

The Gay thing kinda bugs me in one way...because it's
not my thing...each his own...if anyone wants to be gay
be gay just don't do it around me....

At the same time to someone outside looking in,
yea it might look that way , but your a fan man..
that's the difference....

Any way I don't want to make a big deal out of this,
again I know you were just kidding around.... :wink:

PEP 8)

Re: which 4 suits

Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:40 pm

PEP wrote:
The Gay thing kinda bugs me in one way...because it's
not my thing...each his own...if anyone wants to be gay
be gay just don't do it around me....


I have always thought it would be a pain in the arse being gay. :wink:

which 4 suits

Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:54 pm

... I dont visit other pop star sites, but I was wondering do , say,

fans of van Halen , or other "exotic" looking bands [ Kiss?] discuss

their hero's outfits in such detail, as Elvis fans do? I mean, most

of us are in their forties, and older [ like me] it comes across as

a little strange to talk about belts, capes, etc.

Had Elvis changed wardrobe after 72, we might not have had all these

sad lookin' impersonators nowdays...? But we do have them. Nothing

can change that anymore.

Re: which 4 suits

Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:45 pm

Tallhair AKA Ger Rijff wrote:... I dont visit other pop star sites, but I was wondering do , say,

fans of van Halen , or other "exotic" looking bands [ Kiss?] discuss

their hero's outfits in such detail, as Elvis fans do? I mean, most

of us are in their forties, and older [ like me] it comes across as

a little strange to talk about belts, capes, etc.

Had Elvis changed wardrobe after 72, we might not have had all these

sad lookin' impersonators nowdays...? But we do have them. Nothing

can change that anymore.


Ger, I can't say and I don't know because I don't
go to any of the sites you mentioned either....

But lets use the KISS fans as a example...here's a band
either you love them or you hate them...

I personally could take them or leave them myself,
but yet I kinda understand why they have such a huge
following and outside looking in I don't think in their case
it's all about their music...

Do you?.

Because if it was, they wouldn't have gone back
to the make-up and the 80's get-ups they use to
wear back then, to end up touring in the late 90's
and 2000's in the same get ups for nothing...

So, for their fans, that was a big part of it.

I would think logically then the odds
are that yea, I think they would talk about what they saw
Gene Simmons Wear or comment on what Paul Stanley
wore for this gig or that gig or whatever...an i'm sure
it would be considered cool to do so....

As far as Van Halen goes, not sure their clothing would
be considered any different than what other long hair
bands were wearing at the time.....and I don't think it
was so much part of their image anyway...well maybe
for David Lee Roth a bit..but not for Sammy Hagar..

Still whatever they did was not timeless for what they
chose to wear, it was for the moment in time only or
at least it appears that way outside looking in.

As for what KISS was doing....completely different..

Ger, each Hobby has its freaks, from Trekee's, to comic Book
collectors to toy collectors or whatever....

Unless your into what they are into, it all seems a bit weird....
to the person on the outside....That's just life.....

Anything could be considered a Gay thing even
Collecting Elvis pictures as a example....which you do..
50's or not they are still pictures of a guy....and
a pretty good looking guy at that....

Don't you find it odd that us being men are so into
his pictures....I mean aren't you?

Of course you are and so am I and most anyone
who is a Elvis fan..."That's the Way it Is"

You have done enough books on the man outside
looking in some guys might think you are....Gay...

But guess what we know your not, because we are fans
just like you and we understand.....

Here's the deal I always found it weird for a guy
who's really into sports and may have naked pictures
of women on his walls...yet this same
guy is hanging out with guys most of the time watching
the game instead of doing his wife or girlfriend....odd...
or he's going out camping just with the guys....

Didn't they make a movie about that... :lol:

Could never understand it myself...but hey once again
to each his own...

The funny thing with collecting Ger, anything no matter
what it is if your not into the same thing, it doesn't matter
what the collector tells you, you won't understand nor have
the same feelings or the passion....

You have just chosen to limited yourself to a certain period
in Elvis' career and that's fine too....

Bottom line your a fan and that's what counts :wink:

PEP 8)

Re: which 4 suits

Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:33 pm

Tallhair AKA Ger Rijff wrote:... I dont visit other pop star sites, but I was wondering do , say,

fans of van Halen , or other "exotic" looking bands [ Kiss?] discuss

their hero's outfits in such detail, as Elvis fans do? I mean, most

of us are in their forties, and older [ like me] it comes across as

a little strange to talk about belts, capes, etc.

Had Elvis changed wardrobe after 72, we might not have had all these

sad lookin' impersonators nowdays...? But we do have them. Nothing

can change that anymore.


Elvis is the only male star I've heard of where other heterosexual men have said how great and cool he looked. He's the only guy you can say that about and not be immediately perceived as gay. Men don't comment about Brad Pitt openly, but they do about EP. As far as EP's jumpsuits go, the impersonators (with the exception of a very few) really have done a number on his memory and continue to do so every day. Some of these guys are so disgusting, it's nauseating.

Re: which 4 suits

Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:42 am

Tallhair AKA Ger Rijff wrote:... "Allo eveybody!"... welcome to ze Elvi' jumpsuit fashion parade!

Ah, allo Pierre, allo spectacle, mon petit! Ze clothes by ze King are

zo incredible!... Zo sexy! I could go on for 'ours and 'ours about

zis subject! O' gay brothers and sisters, please do continue!

... O yeah! Great to have learned his belt buckle wasnt worn

upside down during the entire show. Thank you, administrator,

for pointing that out to us...! Bye- bye now, my little angels... :wink:


Ger, you funny you. That was hilarious. :lol:

Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:10 pm

I have never been into jumpsuits... So for me the greatest contribution the experts provide (Leroy etc..) is a great way to DATE a picture. Detail,detail detail. :smt023

Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:09 pm

What's wrong with this shot? I know it's from April but he looks pretty good in this pic...

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Re: which 4 suits

Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:47 pm

Tallhair AKA Ger Rijff wrote:... I dont visit other pop star sites, but I was wondering do , say,

fans of van Halen , or other "exotic" looking bands [ Kiss?] discuss

their hero's outfits in such detail, as Elvis fans do? I mean, most

of us are in their forties, and older [ like me] it comes across as

a little strange to talk about belts, capes, etc.

Had Elvis changed wardrobe after 72, we might not have had all these

sad lookin' impersonators nowdays...? But we do have them. Nothing

can change that anymore.


No,they don't. The KISS fans. Each member has their own character, as well as the outfits. In the 70's every new tour, new outfits. The idea behind it is different comparing to Elvis.

Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:28 am

I caught Elvis in Concert here in Perth Western Australia last friday. EP Enterprses have a display of clothing touring with the show at the meoment, including several jumpsuits (purple owl and the fringe suit, plus one of the white 69 outfits). One of these is the suit as used on the front cover of the MSG album. According to the accompanying information (not exact words), "This suit was worn by Elvis during his triumphant shows at New York's Madison Square Garden in 1972". The display also included a copy of the original MSG album sleeve. As so often, it seems that EPE can't get the story right.

Dottore

Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:40 pm

Dottore wrote:I caught Elvis in Concert here in Perth Western Australia last friday. EP Enterprses have a display of clothing touring with the show at the meoment, including several jumpsuits (purple owl and the fringe suit, plus one of the white 69 outfits). One of these is the suit as used on the front cover of the MSG album. According to the accompanying information (not exact words), "This suit was worn by Elvis during his triumphant shows at New York's Madison Square Garden in 1972". The display also included a copy of the original MSG album sleeve. As so often, it seems that EPE can't get the story right.

Dottore


It never ceases to amaze me baby!

Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:18 pm

elvis-fan wrote:What's wrong with this shot? I know it's from April but he looks pretty good in this pic...

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I quite like that picture too, but isn't it a little strange to use a photo from a wrong date/show on the cover?

I'm glad they didn't repeat the mistake with An Afternoon In The Garden cd.

Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:59 pm

PEP wrote:As far as I'm concerned these suits are like fine
pieces of "Art'...


Damn right they are! Well said. I know most people would look like complete idiots in these suits, but somehow EP made them look cool, and I too think of them as art! They are fascinating pieces of history, just like, for example, memorabilia from the '50s are fascinating pieces of history. Those things may look a wee bit silly now but that's part of the charm.

Keith Richards, Jr.

Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:34 pm

J wrote:
elvis-fan wrote:What's wrong with this shot? I know it's from April but he looks pretty good in this pic...

Image


I quite like that picture too, but isn't it a little strange to use a photo from a wrong date/show on the cover?

I'm glad they didn't repeat the mistake with An Afternoon In The Garden cd.


They didn't have the time to do it properly. I think the album hit the streets only about 10 days after the show. This cover shot was originally meant for Standing Room Only album which was never released. They decided to go with MSG live album instead but kept the photo. IMO Aloha From Hawaii was worse and that photo didn't either come from the actual show. Elvis looked great in the show but the photo used on the cover was bloody awful.