Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:38 am
Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:16 am
MissClawdy wrote:I've heard once, that Elvis wanted to write a book about his life.
Did he ever make an attempt to start or was it just an idea he had?
Who knew about it and how did this story come out?
Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:35 pm
Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:01 pm
Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:29 pm
MissClawdy wrote:I've heard once, that Elvis wanted to write a book about his life.
Did he ever make an attempt to start or was it just an idea he had?
Who knew about it and how did this story come out?
Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:39 pm
JeroenNL wrote:Lucy de Barbin.... she produced a verified written love poem to her by Elvis.
Graceland has forbidden her to publish the poem.
Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:56 pm
JeroenNL...Don´t you think it´s strange to claim that Graceland forbids a private letter to be published?
Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:19 pm
Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:54 pm
JeroenNL wrote:Lucy de Barbin (who wrote the book Are You Lonesome Toninght) claims she and Elvis started on a book by recording conversations about his life on tape.
Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:27 pm
Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:04 pm
JeroenNL wrote:Lucy de Barbin (who wrote the book Are You Lonesome Toninght) claims ...
Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:35 pm
Lucy de Barbin is a complete fraud
Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:29 am
Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:04 am
I'll leave it to someone else to gently disabuse you
Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:52 am
Scarre wrote:JeroenNL...Sorry if I wasn´t clear enough...I didn´t imply that you claimed it...Just that Lucy does.
ColinB...What I meant was that is it really possible to prevent a private letter from being published in the USA? Unbelieveble...
Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:53 am
Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:19 am
JeroenNL wrote:I'll leave it to someone else to gently disabuse you
I don't think I have abused you or used offending language.
Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:29 am
JeroenNL wrote:Ah, another expert and close friend of Elvis!
Well: convince me then that she is a fraud, please show me your evidence that shows she's a fraud and signed all the things, like the cards and poem, her self.
Anyone so clearly stating she's a fraud must have hard evidence tp prove that.
Or is it as I said before: because her story doens't fit the picture YOU have of Elvis, you THINK it is not true.
To be clear: everybody is allowed to think whatever they like but please don't brush aside FACTS in favour of THOUGHTS
Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:50 am
Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:53 am
carolynlm wrote:Is this the same person who claimned that every time Elvis put his hand to his ear whilst on television, he was sending her some kind of message.....?
Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:09 am
One last try to break open those onsided minds of you all: how come the people verifiably with Elvis and wrote plenty of books NEVER told ANYTHING about the case discussed in the FBI Files?. I think I know the answer: because they never knew what was going on...Funny though, I didn't realize that someone had to be WITH Elvis 24/7 beofre they could pronounce her story BS. I would imagine SOMEONE who was VERIFIABLY with Elvis for 20 years would at SOME time have heard of her, no??
Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:32 am
Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:52 am
JeroenNL wrote:So, let me get this right:
to you guys lawyers and by justice court appointed handwritting experts don't mean a thing? If they establish something in another case everybody agrees and sees it as evidence. But when the name Elvis appears in a case it suddenly is all crap.
What "court apppointed" handwriting expert?? What court "appointed" this guy?? No........the fact is that the best auction houses in the world have been fooled.
OK. I have to admit: how I can I be so silly that people publish such documents in a book just for the sake of being a fake?
Maybe we missed something..........did Lucy give her book away, or did she make money off it?? Perhaps that might have provided some motivation?? Nah.........
Yep, you all have convinced me that it is all fake, boy was I blind. I'm off to Starbucks now, getting my Elvis singnature with COA.
While you're there, care to address the question of why you DON'T believe that Desiree is Elvis' daughter, but DO believe that everything else her mother has to say is truthful?? I mean, you as much as admit she's a liar, then stumble all over yourself to swallow the rest of her crap. Tell us........how did you tell where the lies stopped, and the truth began??
Class,the words for today are "Cognitive Dissonance". Look it up Joern.Funny though, I didn't realize that someone had to be WITH Elvis 24/7 beofre they could pronounce her story BS. I would imagine SOMEONE who was VERIFIABLY with Elvis for 20 years would at SOME time have heard of her, no??
One last try to break open those onsided minds of you all: how come the people verifiably with Elvis and wrote plenty of books NEVER told ANYTHING about the case discussed in the FBI Files?. I think I know the answer: because they never knew what was going on...
Why would they?? What would they have said about it?? Was Elvis leading the legal team?? Were they involved in the lawsuit?? Were they testifying??
No. Do you even know what the FBI Files are?? I doubt it. Let me help you.
These files are UNVERIFIED and UNSUBSTANTIATED reports from various sources. Just because something is IN thosa files doesn't make them true. They are a collection of innuendo, gossip, and facts. They simply sit in the file cabinet until or if a case involving Presley ever opens up so that there will be a background of information and sources at the ready.
There's one on every celebrity, politician, athlete, etc. There's probably one on me too.
None of those files were ever checked for accuracy or verified. They never would have been unless the FBI started an investigation of Elvis, which they never did. So to rely on them as gospel is simply to misunderstand their intent.
End of discussion.
Agreed.........because you are intent on not thinking through your beliefs. You never bothered to address 90% of the points I raised. I invite you to do so, point by point as I am now addressing you.
Please continue believing your own view on Elvis. You probably also believe there was a strange blue light in the sky the night Elvis was born...
No........but I'm shocked you don't believe it. That's a hell of a lot more likely than Lucy DeBarbin's story for damn sure. At least Vernon (someone who we can VERIFY knew Elvis,BTW) said it. That makes it a lot more believable than the dreck Lucy wrote.
Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:58 am
JeroenNL wrote:Ah, another expert and close friend of Elvis!
Well: convince me then that she is a fraud, please show me your evidence that shows she's a fraud and signed all the things, like the cards and poem, her self.
Anyone so clearly stating she's a fraud must have hard evidence tp prove that.
Or is it as I said before: because her story doens't fit the picture YOU have of Elvis, you THINK it is not true.
To be clear: everybody is allowed to think whatever they like but please don't brush aside FACTS in favour of THOUGHTS
Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:42 am
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