complete million dollar Quartet.

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in all honesty i am surprised no one has yet mentioned the awesome sound quality on the elvis at sun issue and how that came about ...

Stan, funny you mention Elvis At SUN (BMG) -- I was just playing the CD this very AM!

When released in 2004, I championed its arrival right here, and with great vigor. Kevan Budd's work is so superlative I still cannot believe my ears. The selection, the chronology, the notes, everything about this collection makes it one of the MOST important CDs of 20th century popular music ever issued, by Elvis Presley or anyone.

With the small exception of "That's All Right" -- which used the very good 1955 RCA transfer tape as source -- these are the definitive recordings, as made by Sam Phillips in 1954-55. The forthcoming SUN collection on FTD will likely be the only set that might possibly match the standard of Elvis At SUN, and the audio is being handled by Mr. Budd!

You're correct that Kevan needed to use vinyl 78s for some of his work -- many SUN tapes simply no longer exist. A pretty penny was forked over to access quality copies of several Presley SUN singles. Along with many, many hours of painstaking restoration, it was worth it.

For those who haven't heard Elvis At SUN, buy it RIGHT NOW!

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It's safe to say that Kevan Budd's Sun work will never be surpassed -- well, at least not in our lifetimes.

It's not too often one can say that audio restoration is well and truly "finished," but after hours of close listening I simply cannot find any defects worth notice or mention.

The mega-Sun project promises to include extra important goodies and I know Kevan has discussed in an interview that he's always working to improve things, but for the cheapskates -- I'm sorry, "budget conscious" among us -- Elvis at Sun is essential.

If you don't have it, what's wrong with you?

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I think it's time to tell my side of the Elvis At Sun story.
I sent Kevan a cdr of the five Sun 45's, my copies are the 1973 issue, which are mint.. I recorded them wet, as this is what Kevan asked me to do, and it was up to me if i wanted to do that. Kevan informed me that he had to do some work on it, but he used my copy of You're A Heartbreaker, for the Elvis At Sun CD issue. He put my name forward to Ernst for a credit on the cd, but Ernst told me that somehow it was misplaced, but it will for sure be in the credits on the Sun Boxset, and I can also say for sure no money changed hands. I consider Kevan a good friend, and enjoyed helping him with the project, so just wanted to set the record straight.

I think it's time to tell my side of the Elvis At Sun story.
I sent Kevan a cdr of the five Sun 45's, my copies are the 1973 issue, which are mint.. I recorded them wet, as this is what Kevan asked me to do, and it was up to me if i wanted to do that. Kevan informed me that he had to do some work on it, but he used my copy of You're A Heartbreaker, for the Elvis At Sun CD issue. He put my name forward to Ernst for a credit on the cd, but Ernst told me that somehow it was misplaced, but it will for sure be in the credits on the Sun Boxset, and I can also say for sure no money changed hands. I consider Kevan a good friend, and enjoyed helping him with the project, so just wanted to set the record straight.

Good on you Barry. Thanks for your part in it all!!!!

[You're correct that Kevan needed to use vinyl 78s for some of his work -- many SUN tapes simply no longer exist.

Did Sun actually release Elvis records as vinyl 78s?

[You're correct that Kevan needed to use vinyl 78s for some of his work -- many SUN tapes simply no longer exist.

Did Sun actually release Elvis records as vinyl 78s?

All those pre-CD records are referred to as 'vinyl' nowadays.

Strictly speaking, it was only the 45's and LP's which were made from this.

The 78's were made from shellac.

[You're correct that Kevan needed to use vinyl 78s for some of his work -- many SUN tapes simply no longer exist.

Did Sun actually release Elvis records as vinyl 78s?

All those pre-CD records are referred to as 'vinyl' nowadays.

Strictly speaking, it was only the 45's and LP's which were made from this.

The 78's were made from shellac.

Some 78s were made from vinyl. I seem to remember having "Twilight Time" by the Platters. But I was surprised to read that Sun 78s were vinyl.

I think it's time to tell my side of the Elvis At Sun story.
I sent Kevan a cdr of the five Sun 45's, my copies are the 1973 issue, which are mint.. I recorded them wet, as this is what Kevan asked me to do, and it was up to me if i wanted to do that.

Given the magic that Kevan worked on those taken from 45's would he have been able to achieve better results from the equivelant in 78's or do we take it that Kevan more than bridged this difference himself ?

But I was surprised to read that Sun 78s were vinyl.

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They wasn't, SUN ONLY released the 78's on shellac as ColinB stated. They were booted in the early 70's on vinyl (black & coloured plastic).......... not by SUN.

OK Chris, I think I've got it now.

"Sun" vinyl 78s do exist but they are not original.

Thanks

... back in 57/58, some US RCA 78rpm's were made of vinyl.

I had two, years ago. One was Too Much. Cant remember the other

one. They were very lightweight compared to the shellac releases.

... back in 57/58, some US RCA 78rpm's were made of vinyl.

I had two, years ago. One was Too Much. Cant remember the other

one. They were very lightweight compared to the shellac releases.

Hi Ger, pm'd my friend...

Barry,

"I sent Kevan a cdr of the five Sun 45's, my copies are the 1973 issue"

I don't understand the "1973" reference.

Steve Morse

Steve. on the trail off vinyl it states issued in 1973. The 45's sound great, and look like the originals. The vinyl is thinner when compared to the original issue,so that is one thing to keep in mind.
Hope this helps answer your question.

Barry
What happened to the tapes that they used to master these 45's with in 1973? Did these tapes disappear then sometime after these singles were re-released?

If memory serves me correctly, the 45's were mastered from mint condition Sun 78's, by a chap in California.

Thanks

Some 78s were made from vinyl.
I seem to remember having "Twilight Time" by the Platters.

While the vast majority of 78's were made from shellac, there were a handful of them released in vinyl.

I remember having Rock The Polonaise by Freddie Bell & The Bell Boys on 78 in vinyl.

Another Hound Dog it wasn't !

Barry ,

Are you referring to Sam who was married to Vic?
I'd rather think it was Mr. Minor in Florida.

What generation was the source tape used for the 1990 CD?

What generation is the source tape used for the 2006 CD? Is this a first generation source? Or a copy? If it was found at Graceland, is it a copy Elvis received from Sam?

Where is Sam's first generation tape?

Is it possible that Sam's first generation source tape may actually contain additional material, including Johnny Cash?

What generation was the source tape used for the 1990 CD?

What generation is the source tape used for the 2006 CD? Is this a first generation source? Or a copy? If it was found at Graceland, is it a copy Elvis received from Sam?

So many questions!

Is it possible that Sam's first generation source tape may actually contain additional material, including Johnny Cash?

The first generation tape does not contain Johnny Cash and Elvis singing together!

Splanky, you may be right on that version, what i read about how the 1973 issue came about could very well be a mistake, but i have the story somewhere, will try to find it, it also seems to me that a special stylus was used on the 78's for the transfer, being part of the story.

What generation was the source tape used for the 1990 CD?

What generation is the source tape used for the 2006 CD? Is this a first generation source? Or a copy? If it was found at Graceland, is it a copy Elvis received from Sam?

So many questions!

Is it possible that Sam's first generation source tape may actually contain additional material, including Johnny Cash?

The first generation tape does not contain Johnny Cash and Elvis singing together!

So you have heard the first generation source reel tape actually recorded by Sam? What source was used for the 2006 CD? A copy?