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elvissessions.com wrote:"Elvis' own copy of it that was lost many years ago"
Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:48 pm
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:13 pm
likethebike wrote:Tapes of the "Without You" demo are out there in private hands. In 1992, 48 Hours did a special episode on Elvis and a few tantalizing seconds of the demo by the mysterious young singer were played.
Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:56 pm
Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:38 am
thenexte wrote:Looks like Ernst spent most of his time fending off the critics of BMG's new genre compilation series among the collectors. I know this subject was heavily discussed on this message board as well, and perhaps such an explanation was given as a result of that. People still don't seem to understand what BMG is all about...
Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:25 am
Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:26 am
FlamingStar wrote:I understand exactly what Ernst tell us about all those BMG releases.
I know the genre cd's can be nice for those who's actually not fans, and then they can be more interested .. But, do they need to have so many different complication cd's?
Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:52 am
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Axeman wrote:Have we not had enough early albums redone on FTD already so as to warrant a release of Raised on Rock or Promised Land *before* His Hand in Mine?
Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:04 pm
Axeman wrote:Great news about His Hand in Mine for sure...but I have to ask:
Have we not had enough early albums redone on FTD already so as to warrant a release of Raised on Rock or Promised Land *before* His Hand in Mine?
Nots ure how excited I am about "Writing for the King", but of course the Sun box would be incredible!
Axe
Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:18 pm
thenexte wrote:I personally do not believe any more 70's albums are slated for release in this series, as the release of "Made in Memphis" has clearly shown FTD has departed from that idea and is focusing its efforts entirely on the huge number of 50's and 60's classic albums where a vast array of unreleased session material actually does exist. Furthermore, as most of the 70's albums remain in print through the various BMG reissues (some of them only a few years old), I would imagine these will at some point simply be upgraded to DSD on the main label, which is another reason that would make their release on FTD not really a viable idea.
Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:27 pm
Keith Richards, Jr. wrote:thenexte wrote:Looks like Ernst spent most of his time fending off the critics of BMG's new genre compilation series among the collectors. I know this subject was heavily discussed on this message board as well, and perhaps such an explanation was given as a result of that. People still don't seem to understand what BMG is all about...
I guess they never will. Ernst has been saying this for years and years and people are still moaning...
Keith Richards, Jr.
Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:40 pm
Gregory Nolan Jr. wrote:Keith Richards, Jr. wrote:thenexte wrote:Looks like Ernst spent most of his time fending off the critics of BMG's new genre compilation series among the collectors. I know this subject was heavily discussed on this message board as well, and perhaps such an explanation was given as a result of that. People still don't seem to understand what BMG is all about...
I guess they never will. Ernst has been saying this for years and years and people are still moaning...
Keith Richards, Jr.
"Moaning"? It's with good reason, my friends, although with retail not being what it is and pure fatigue, I have to say Ernst's comments at least acknowledge our discontent. The moment when he reveals that there will be yet another "new" Christmas album was priceless.
He's doing a better a job of explaining it, I'll grant that. As great as he has been on FTD and the main label for a long time, people have responded to the trivialization of his main label (RCA/Sony/BMG) releases for some time now.
To be critical, it seemshe's now backtracking from the comments made almost ten years ago about bringing sanity and respect back to the catalog.
From a July 31,1997 Knight-Ridder article by Dan DeLuca at the time of the then-new "Platinum" boxset:
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"Back in 1986, when the German-based Bertelsmann Music Group (BMG) bought RCA and its rights to Presley's music, "the idea was to sell Elvis for $7.99," said Jorgensen, speaking last week from his native Denmark. Presley was thought of as a square, relegated to the oldies bins, exiles from rock radio playlists.
"The target buyer was a woman between 35 and 55. She was a housewife married to a blue-collar worker in the South," Jorgensen said. And the way to reach her, the strategy went, was to flood stores with low-quality budget hits collections.
Jorgensen and his British production partner, Roger Semon, had a different idea.
"We thought if his music was respected and presented properly, that Elvis...couch reach a much broader audience, (the same people) who would also buy the Beatles and Led Zeppelin."
Jorgensen's belief was born out at the cash register: "The King of Rock'n' Roll" (the '50s boxset) sold 320,000 copies in the United States alone, despite its $79 price tag. And though subsequent boxes devoted to the '60s and '70s didn't sell as well, they weren't expect to.
"you can only change the world once," he said.
Plus, the '60 and '70s sets continued the mission that has been handed over to "Platinum": to correct contemporary music fans' perception of Elvis Presley.
"For the first ten years after he died, it was all ridicule," Jorgensen said. "Elvis was the guy who in the '50s was the king of rock and roll, in the '60s made bad movies, and in the '70s was fat and died. But he made a lot of good recordings all those years"....
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While the "genre" sets make a certain amount of sense, I still maintain that it would be better to not flog his catalog as we don't see the same thing with most other acts of his stature. But Elvis has always been a big money maker, be it records or trinkets so I suppose I shouldn't have hoped for more wisdom. Unless they add a lot of new value to the X-mas set, I think it's getting a little embarrassing.
Thanks for the posting the audio, ES!
Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:14 am
Kylan wrote:Greg, I doubt BMG and Ernst just put out these compiles to piss u and other fans off. They release what the market demands. If Elvis is Back and SFE doesn't sell, it doesn't sell!! This is what the stupid public likes apparently. The FTD label is for us, and all the goodies that come with it. Its that simple, isnt it??
Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:48 am
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:49 am
thenexte wrote:Interestingly enough, it appears that "Reconsider Baby" on the new R&B genre collection is a brand new DSD 2006 remaster and to be honest the sound is absolutely stunning (mastered by Vic Anesini), although I haven't compared it to the FTD set yet, which probably sounds a bit more laid back. I would not be surprised at all if "Elvis is back" would make it back into the main catalog as a DSD upgrade to the BMG reissue, all newly mastered by Vic Anesini.
P.S.: The "Loving You" BMG reissue came out in 1997 and was upgraded in 2005, so given that the "Elvis is back" BMG reissue came out in 1999, it should be upgraded in 2007, right? There must be something coming out next year other than Elvis genre collections (you would think)...
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