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KiwiAlan wrote:Joe Car wrote:Jay33 wrote:KiwiAlan wrote::?:
Elvis and Ali's friendship
Would such a documentary last longer than a minute
And would the general public give a hoot
Geez, I give up. This board is filled with negativity everywhere you turn. Why do I even bother?
Jay, it's the same several people that are negative. If you take a close look at Kiwi's "posts", you'll see that nine out of ten of his responses are negative. His user name should read "sourful Jones".
It's called realism, Joe
Could you make a documentary out of one meeting - which wasn't even filmed
Thu May 25, 2006 12:54 am
Christopher wrote:i´d love to see such a project coming (and i know that, at least, gayle "thechildwithin" would love to see it, too - in fact there are so many adorers of both men out there, just because both werde the most known people on this planet for the same generations during almost the same timeframe).
elvis and cassius, they led almost linked lifes, with the difference that ali is seven years younger and therefor his career is displaced about five or six years, compared to elvis´.
let´s take a closer look:
elvis started to become a brand to major audiences in ´55.
cassius got wider attention in ´60 with the winnings of the olympic gold medal in rome.
from his career beginnings until he got out of the army in ´60, the american establishment hated elvis.
just as they hated ali, after he had converted to the black muslims. that had absolutely changed, when he came out of (forced) retirement in ´70.
by 1960 and by 1970 both had become american role models, loved and recognized by millions worldwide.
both had been away from the public´s eye for a while:
elvis during his movie career from´61 until ´68;
ali was inactive due to a suspension from ´67 to ´70.
both had triumphant comebacks: the king in ´68 on nbc, the greatest ´71 against frazier in york´s garden.
the 2nd comeback was elvis´"aloha" ´73 and ali´s "rumble in the jungle" against foreman in ´74 (winning the championsbelt for the 2nd time).
after that, both declined rapidly, displaced just a few years. both got fat and lethargic, with the torch of fame & fortune still burning brightly.
both were the greatest in their field.
elvis disturbing last farewell was the cbs-special in ´77. ali´s was the tragic "last hurrah" against holmes three years later or the "drama on the bahamas", december ´81 against berbick.
by then, both had deteriorated that much, that their fans felt hurt to watch - it was reallife drama and tragedy.
but it didn´t change anything.
both had become so big by then, that they couldn´t topple their own monuments anymore.
today, they are still adored by millions, maybe more than ever before.
they are two of few true american icons.
working title: linked lifes -
enough contents for a documentary, kiwialan ... ?
Thu May 25, 2006 12:43 pm
heathbarclay wrote:Hey Christopher - were you inspired by my previous post on April 3rd!!?? -
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