THEM DAMN BOOTLEGS...!

Any interest, in reading handwritten letters, from Marion Keisker?

YES!

Please make it a new thread, something like "Marion and the SUN Legacy"!

And ASAP!!!

DJC

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Funnily enough, when they released the "Reconsider baby" segement from MDQ a couple of years later on the 50's box set (1992) it featured *much improved sound* compared to the 1990 MDQ release, almost as if a much better generation of tape sources was used for that one. I don't think BMG had these tapes in their possession at the time MDQ was first released and probably only acquired them later. Once can only hope that one day the entire session will be re-released from the best tape sources available with adequate mastering and restored sequencing.

"Reconsider baby" ... almost as if a much better generation of tape sources was used ...

Not almost, but actually.

I don't think BMG had these ... at the time MDQ was first released and probably only acquired them later.

Correct. They really had to "shake" things up to find another source.

Once can only hope that one day the entire session will be re-released from the best tape sources available with adequate mastering and restored sequencing.

It sounds SO excellent in the correct order, with ALL the extant peices in place. And such a reissue is something I've advocated for several years now. Given a lack of BMG interest in the 1950s material, as dictated by the marketplace, a "deluxe" FTD would really be sweet.

DJC

Thanks for posting, Mike.

Maybe, it was a co production, between Richard & Vic...?

When I met up again, with Vic, in the early 80s, his spare bedroom,

housed several boxes with the GS album...

I heard Richard took his own life. Either in jail, or shortly after he

got out ... Any truth in that story?

Richard Minor, was a very nice guy. Dammit! Most of the Boot Yanks

were good dudes. They knew the risk, but their punishment was

way over the top!

Pat, thanks for your list! It helps, dating the US boots.

Ger:
It might have been a co-production - I am not sure. But, I think Vic may have been tied up with the authorities when Richard produced the LP. From the book I read, which quote Richard from an interview with the author, Richard was still alive in the 1990s, but he had gotten out of the business. He really perferred vinyl and the glorious covers.

As for Richard Minor, I don't know what happened to him - he was mentioned in passing in the book. Thank god fro Vic and all the rest of these guys otherwise I doubt their would be an FTD series now.

Hope all is well, Ger. Keep up your great posts and the awsome pics.

......... VIC, the continuing story [ part 4]

... Im dizzy,walking on clouds, when we leave the Hilton

showroom. Looking at my lady, I give her a big grin.

She smiles back at me. I cant find the right words, to

describe, how happy I feel!... After nearly 20 years,

I finally got to see Elvis in the flesh. All 6 feet of him!

Outside, theres a cold wind blowing. We decide on taking

a taxi, back to The Holiday Inn.

The driver, asks, if we enjoyed the show...?

From our reply, he figures, were not Americans.

..."Where you from?" ... Holland???!!!

"You travelled all the way from Europe, to see Elvis Presley?!"

"Dont miss out on Wayne Newton, hes really big, here in Vegas!"

We dont want to be rude... and give him a friendly nod.

...Wayne, frikkin Newton!

We head straight for the Bar!

... Vic, slightly drunk, asks: "Well...? Was he good?"...

We go over some of the highlights, with him.

..."Frikkin magnifico!... The Party, here tonight, sucked big time!"

Why? What went wrong, we ask Vic ?

..... [ To Be Continued, After a Quick Breakfast Break...]

Was that quick enough for you, as it was for me?
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..." There was a good crowd, but after the showing of The

Dorsey footage, they quickly left. Hardly sold any boots at

all!"... Im trying to explain, the majority of the fans, especially

those from The UK, hardly have any pocket money, at all,

during their stay in Vegas, this week! "They saved for years,

to make the trip, and get tickets for the Elvis shows!"

... "some survive on just a 0. 99 $ breakfast, each and

every day..." Buying a $ 10 boot, is a luxery, they cant afford".

... Vic understands.

While more, and more fans, are coming back, from the Elvis

show, and plaster against the Bar, sharing their super souvenirs,

with other fans, we leave the crowded Bar, and continue our

conversation , with Vic, in the Hotel Lobby.

... " Im about to get a box full of session tapes, shortly!"

The Colonna grin, is back on his face.

... "Hours and hours, of never before heard outtakes!"

"Its stuff, recorded at Radio Recorders, in Hollywood!" [ *** ]

... This is the moment, for my lady, to make a speedo return,

to the Bar!..... "Outtakes?" ... And off, she is!

________________ Coffee break. To be continued!...

[ *** ] See page 10, for photos of RR related.

... Im aware , a lot of the boot covers, seen on these pages,

are from the days when vinyl ruled. But dont let that stop you,

young ones, to post cds, and [ hopefully] stories to go along

with them... long as its not Cheggies! Thank you.

Rijff what is YOUR problem? You want to be praised as BOOTLEG GOD or what? You want everyone will pray to you and say THANKS, THANKS mister??? You are continuing with your imbecle attacks. You must have very unhappy life if you care about these marginal things. My advice: switch of your PC, do not take your drugs in such amount, go somewhere in the forrest or on the river for fishing, enjoy the life...

Rijff what is YOUR problem? You want to be praised as BOOTLEG GOD or what? You want everyone will pray to you and say THANKS, THANKS mister??? You are continuing with your imbecle attacks. You must have very unhappy life if you care about these marginal things. My advice: switch of your PC, do not take your drugs in such amount, go somewhere in the forrest or on the river for fishing, enjoy the life...

You seem to have completely missed the point of TallHair's posts. Its a fascinating insight into the world of bootlegs - from someone who was THERE!

Keep it coming Ger

Andrew

I did not missed it, my friend. it is something that you do not understand... a bit personal thing.

I did not missed it, my friend. it is something that you do not understand... a bit personal thing.

If it's personal, send Mr. Rijff a Private Message (PM). The rest of us are really enjoying this subject, as if you couldn't tell.

Ger, don't forget to start the "Marion & SUN" topic ASAP!

DJC

Well HE is personal on opened forum so i see no reason to send him private message. See my point?

Well HE is personal on opened forum so i see no reason to send him private message. See my point?

No.

We are enjoying the stories - if you have a problem then you should take it up with him.

Ger - listen to the Doc and get the marion Keisker topic underway

keep it comin´, ger!

your posts are very appreciated and it´s a pleasure to share the same messageboard with you.

noch dazu kann ich fast über die grenze zu euch käsköppen spucken!
grüsse an frau antje!

christopher

... God Of The Bootlegs... My Boss sez thank you, Deadringer,

for coming up with a brilliant title for his biography!

When have YOU ever, submitted something else, on this mb,

other than plugging your cerial box products...?!

And, YES! I get a kick out of seeing over 7000 hits, on this

Topic! And, NO! I cant take less drugs! [ I hope you mean

medication?!] . And NO! I dont like fishing. Hurting animals,

I cant do. Kicking human butt, I can do
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... Doc, as you might remember, I have to rely on friends,

for posting my photos, here. Memphis Flash [ god bless ]

needs to post some RCA Vaults goodies first [ surprise, Flash!],

and starting up, yet another Topic, is a bit too much, for

me to do. But we will get there. Dont worry!
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...All others, thanks for your support! Its FUN!

Deadringer - i wasn't being personal. There's obviously more to this debate than meets the eye - maybe you guys should sort it out in private though?

Andrew

Keep up the good work, Ger, et al.

I agree with Doc: we do really need the MDQ in a deluxe, upgraded version.

Ger, your write-up about seeing Elvis enter the stage in '76 really is a knock-out and sums up what most of us would feel if we had been there (only some of you did also see him live.)

It reminded me a bit of the footage live from '75 I posted here the other day, where he comes out on the stage, hooks his hands in and just "is" Elvis Presley, without singing a word:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB0RCkV3JWo&search=Elvis


That was a curse too, as Greil Marcus has written. (Something along the lines of how do you create art when all you have to do is just show up and be you?



Here is the link about that footage:

http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/v ... highlight=

... THE FIRST TIME... [ Vic-3]

Intermission is over.

Lights dimm... 2001 sets in!

People in the Hilton Showroom whisper nervously...

The band Rocks!

My heart beats like a kettledrum!

The curtain goes up slowely. Our eyes go from the left

to the right... Tadada Tada Daaa!

The band plays at fever pitch! Loud, really loud!

Im shaking. Im so nervous, dont know where to

look anymore!... My lady smiles at me. She understands.

Out of the right corner, from behind the curtain, He enters

the stage! Godallmighty! HE IS FOR REAL!

My head explodes!

This is not a film, Im watching! Hes there, in front of us!

EEEELLLLVVVIIISSSS!!!

He slowely walks towards the centre, of the stage. Smiling,

his thumbs, resting in the chains of his belt. He looks a

million bucks! Pompadour, and all.

Hes so incredibly good looking. And sooo coool!

Absorbing all these emotions, overpower me!

I nearly slide off my chair!

Im knocked out. And he hasnt opened his mouth, yet!...

......... To be Continued...

Mike C. thanks again for mentioning that book on bootlegs which you've mentioned before. It's on my "to get" list. Here's the cover of the original 1995 version. There is now a 2004 update, with a new subtitle:



Bootleg: The Secret History of the Other Recording Industry aka
Bootleg: The Rise and Fall of the Secret Recording Indusry
New York: St. Martin's Press, June 1995 1st ed. (hb)

Description: 442 p., 23.5 cm. with B/W photos of many bootleg albums & CD's.

Notes: A detailed history of the popular music bootleg recording industry, from the first bootleg Dylan album (Great White Wonder) in 1969 until July 1994. Contains many interviews of insiders in the industry, including many who produced Dylan boots. Chronicles the evolution of international laws targeting the illicit trade, and reviews the content and importance of many boots of artists such as Dylan, the Beatles, Stones, Led Zeppelin, Springsteen, and many others. Includes a glossary, Heylin's list of the top 100 boots for 60 different artists, a bibliography, notes, and index. Essential for anyone who wants to find out about this underground industry.

This book was first published in the UK as The Great White Wonders: A History of Rock Bootlegs (image on the left), where it won the Record Collector award for Best Book of the Year.


Subjects: Bootleg recording industry


ISBN: 0-312-13031-7; HB $29.95 US, $39.95 Canada


Review: David Fricke, of Rolling Stone magazine: "...highly entertaining" Peter Doggett of Record Collector magazine: "...a fresh perspective" and "...it's a damn good read." Hot Wacks: "...if you're interested in bootlegs, you'll enjoy this book."

Ger do you still have contact with Vic ?

Do you know if he's still involved with Elvis at any level
or did the 80's do him in ?

Out of curiosity did you know him by his real name back then
and did you call him by his real name when you talked to him
privately?

Was there anything that you saw, heard or knew about from his
collection waiting to be released which did not end up getting released because of the bust of 81'?

If there was, do you happen to know did it eventually get released
by someone else or was it lost forever?

PEP

Keep up the good work, Ger, et al.


It reminded me a bit of the footage live from '75 I posted here the other day, where he comes out on the stage, hooks his hands in and just "is" Elvis Presley, without singing a word:

I just Looked at the ‘75 footage, and indeed, only Elvis could dress up like a complete idiot, [what a faggoty suit, with the puffy sleeves!!] and get away with it ! after all those years it still amazes me, I don’t think there will be ever one quite like him ....

I'm no big fan of that suit, but short of being literally in drag like he was in "Girl Happy" in one scene, Elvis never looked "faggoty" and could pull off virtually any suit. I've heard people put down his "Elvis On Tour" suits from '72 but to me, it was iconic and he pulled it off. No one else could.

And it was the '70s, too! Take a look at Alice Cooper, Elton John, David Bowie and others at that time and get back to me about "idiotic" suits! No one holds them up to such ridicule. It's show business! Today, artists look like they just finished a game of hoops in their backyard or just rolled off their couch. People pay for a show. Costumes are okay!

I think he looks rather regal here, but I've never liked the collar thing and as someone on that site mentioned, it's the famed "puffy shirt" of "Seinfeld" fame.

Back to bootlegs!

And ehh..... Ger, what was your boss thinking when he made this cover

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I'm no big fan of that suit, but short of being literally in drag like he was in "Girl Happy" in one scene, Elvis never looked "faggoty" and could pull off virtually any suit. I've heard people put down his "Elvis On Tour" suits from '72 but to me, it was iconic and he pulled it off. No one else could.

And it was the '70s, too! Take a look at Alice Cooper, Elton John, David Bowie and others at that time and get back to me about "idiotic" suits! No one holds them up to such ridicule. It's show business! Today, artists look like they just finished a game of hoops in their backyard or just rolled off their couch. People pay for a show. Costumes are okay!

I think he looks rather regal here, but I've never liked the collar thing and as someone on that site mentioned, it's the famed "puffy shirt" of "Seinfeld" fame.

Back to bootlegs!

Yep you are right, didn't mean to put 'm down, it was my first thought when viewing the clip ... back to boot's indeed !

Yeah, but personally, rare footage of the king in action at any stage is no more or less interesting than often-outdated-"you-had-to-be-there" bootleg vinyl releases, to be frank, and get back to Keith Flynn's original point earlier.

Not to stink up the nostalgia-fest or anything.

Carry on. It's a good education. I hope someone's printing up Ger's stories because this server cannot be 100%. Many a good thread went kaput here in the past.

Between the bootleg book mentioned above, the threads here, past and present Elvis fan magazines, there's surely a book about Elvis bootleggers that could be writen in the future by a historian.

Between the bootleg book mentioned above, the threads here, past and present Elvis fan magazines, there's surely a book about Elvis bootleggers that could be writen in the future by a historian.

Yes! I'd buy at least ten copies of that book!

Like I've said before, Sony/BMG should be thankful to the bootleggers. Without those old bootlegs, I don't think there would be so many hardcore fans as there are now. The bootleggers kept the flame alive. (I wasn't there in the '80s but I've done my homework!)

Keith Richards, Jr.

... A few answers, before I go back into more hardcore nostalgia,

sometime tomorrow... PEP, yes sure I called Vic by his real name.

But I dont use it here, cause Im not sure if he would appreciate,

all the attention?... No idea, what hes up to these days? Last time,

we met, was in 97, in Memphis. His partner, from the old days, had

asked him, to come over, and join up with us. That was the last

time... Never heard from him again. Really hope hes still around,

somewhere...?

No, nothing was left untouched. Some of the unreleased tapes,

at the time, have all made it to Europe, and all have been released.
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...Gregory and Keith, Somebody has already picked up on the

idea, of writing the definitive book on Elvis boots. Its about the

records, and not the people behind them! For the better, I think...?

I dont know, if he found a publisher interested yet? If he does,

Im sure, hes gonna let us know. And NO! Its not my boss.
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... A question, to you, guys. On the topic "From Sunset Blvd..."

an Aussie, by the name of Ray, mentioned the FTD release, of

The Pittsburgh NYE 76, is less in quality, compared to the

old boots. I dont know. I sold the double vinyl - original-, and

Mac cd [ in fold out cardboard sleeve ] , ages ago.

According to Ray, all labels involved, used the same source...!?

Any thoughts on this?

The original, was a Vic Colonna product, released circa march 77.

I doubt, later releases used his cassette tape, for mastering ?!

Far as I know, the Mac cd was made from a mint vinyl copy.