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Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:44 am

Well something is amiss, I've read that 1977 was the time when Elvis could barely walk whilst on stage, his movements were limited and when he did he seemed to wince in pain.

And off stage:

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Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:46 am

Steve -

But that pic is early on in 1977.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:47 am

That picture is before falling down. Many times according to some books.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:55 am

Colin, it is from March 1977.

If you have any pics of Elvis taken towards the end of the year I'd like to see them :lol:

JLGB, i don't think that's relevant, or if it is then at least Elvis was able to not only fall over but get back up again. There are accounts he ran after the ball - yes, RAN! - which again is odd for a man who cauld barely move and when he did he seemed to wince in pain.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:58 am

Erm... he was exercising and playing racquetball just hours before he died. Oh wait - THAT must be what killed him! D'oh!

Steve, I agree with you.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:59 am

Cool pictures. He looks so much better in the dark blue than in the powder blue sweat suit. Were these taken on the same vacation? He looks much healthier in the dark blue.
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Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:01 am

Steve M wrote:
Colin, it is from March 1977.

If you have any pics of Elvis taken towards the end of the year I'd like to see them :lol:

They kinda dried up in the late summer that year.

All I meant was, maybe the symptoms you described came after this pic was taken.

Like in May or June.
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Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:04 am

That pose of him after throwing the football looks weird. It almost looks like Elvis is throwng like a girl :shock: . Granted the pic could have been taken at an awkward moment.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:05 am

After that Colin, and also before that in 1976.

It's almost as if Elvis was performing at times in order to gain pity, a kind of "look at me, please feel for me" approach in public, but in private that didn't seem to be there.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:11 am

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Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:21 am

Steve_M wrote:After that Colin, and also before that in 1976.

It's almost as if Elvis was performing at times in order to gain pity, a kind of "look at me, please feel for me" approach in public, but in private that didn't seem to be there.


I see where you're coming from Steve, and yet....

Elvis was always known to act as "one of the lads" when it came time to socialising/enjoying himself. Priscilla says as much in "Elvis by the Presleys" and this is also touched upon in Guralnick's account of Elvis and June in the chapter within "Last Train To Memphis" of the same name. Both women also claim - as do others that were involved with him - that it was merely a front and he was a deep-feeling man underneath (in Priscilla's words: "If you could get him alone...."). Elvis' approach to music was always very intimate for this reason.

Besides, this was a holiday - Elvis' last - in his most beautiful and favourite place.

Let's not be too hard on EP when a bit of context shows it isn't warranted.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:28 am

JonRomanovich wrote:Why would someone wear that many clothes on the baech


Maybe it was cold. :oops: :lol: :lol:

Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:54 am

Cryogenic, I didn't mean it in a hard way on Elvis. As for it being his last holiday, well whilst hindsight lets us know that there's no way that could have influenced how Elvis was at the time.

Priscillas commets baoutt, "If only you could get him alone.." seem strange given that that is how Elvis was almost in front of thousands of fans, yet privately with the MM he felt he should fall in.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:21 am

Because it was a way of asserting his masculinity? The stage was a different arena entirely. His masculinity comes through there in different ways (namely, through vigorous dance moves in the earlier/middle years and his enduring ability to elicit euphoria from women young and old).

Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:01 am

EP was dressed this way simply because he was ON VACATION. He also knew pics. were being taken, so he covered up head-to-toe for many of the beach shots. (It was also quite windy the day those pics. were taken --------> ie: it could be a bit chilly for some, yes, even in Hawaii). All those pics (with the exception of the sightseeing shot, were also taken @ a private residence / private beach, etc.. (Kinda sad, when you get right down to it, that the man truly had minimal privacy - even on vacation).

EP dressed to impress as well, when he went out on the town during that same vacation. Suffice to say, ........... these shots are unpublished / unseen.

Have said it before, lots also remains untold about "The Last Vacation."

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Great thread on a topic that I love. My thanks.


N8
... just a fan ....

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:39 pm

These pics are truly amazing and unique.
Even a few newones for me.
I think it's logic Elvis kept his clothes on, he knew he wasn't in good shape.

Allthough a bit expensive (100000 dollars) this vacation was a great time for everybody.

A day by day account is described in Larry Gellar's book.
Elvis arranged his last will before flying to Hawai, as they had to fly over the ocean. They also cut the Holiday short because he got some sand in his eye during the football playing.

One eye whitness stated Elvis had no control of his movements during these football activities, at one time he just kep running and ran into a fence!

But as Larry put it: Everybody hoped for improvement after Hawai, but as soon as touring began, all problems were back again..

Cheers, RJ

Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:26 pm

Robert, I too went back to Larry's book after seeing these pics. His comment that everyone looks older than they are due to the stresses of their lifestyle is very telling.

They all seemed to have a fantastic time, with Elvis suite open to anyone who wanted to visit, and he generally being relaxed and happy. It's just a shame it wasn't for a month or two, rather than 10-11 days. Then, some real benefit might have been had.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:55 pm

Re: Geller's "accounts":

Don't forget to read about EP's "Bone Cancer" when you are taking Geller's word as The Gospel (pun intended). :lol:

(Sorry, couldn't resist). :wink:

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Hawaii '77:

Formal "public" dinner parties, shopping (even @ Ala Moana) in full-view in public, Polynesian Cultural Center shows @ BYU, .............. EP had a ball in March of '77.

Too bad he didn't stay & take the rest of that fateful year off.


N8
... just a fan ....

Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:09 pm

Is it true that Elvis went shopping just like a "normal" person during this vacation? visiting shopping malls with his group in broad daylight whilst other people were about for once and not having to wait until night time when the shops re-opened for him so he wouldn't be mobbed ?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:20 pm

During this period (March/April) Elvis' weight was relatively down. It's a shame he couldn't cultivate a sensible diet and excercise program, as he looks to be only about 15 -20 lbs. away from being in reasonable shape for a middle-aged man. If only ......

Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:37 pm

N880EP wrote:Too bad he didn't stay & take the rest of that fateful year off.


It´s a disgrace that his finances were in such a bad state by '77... money should have been the last thing for him to worry about. If he had had xx millions in his bank account, at least he could have considered such an option... he could have said "screw the old colonel, cancel the tours, I wanna have some fun and just take it easy for a while"... But as it was, I´m sure Elvis thought he had no other choice but to keep working.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:41 pm

That Elvis covered up his body wasn't that unusual. He wasn't known for walking around without a shirt. Somewhere else I wrote that Elvis was a junkie, but that doesn't mean that he was stoned all the time or couldn't have fun anymore. He still could play football, etc. He only should have done that more often.

Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:58 am

That’s where (this holiday) Elwood (the pilot) Jim Manny, the engineer and Ron Strauss (not sure if that was his name) (the co pilot) got a navigator to get them to Hawaii. The navigator noticed that the Omega navigation system that they had installed was taking them way off course so he dead reckoned the course. If he hadn’t been there they would have had a fate similar to Amelia Erhardt

Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:10 am

I too think that "overweight" has been done to death.

Still one thing that I see from the pictures. He looks high as a kite in each and every one.

Sad really.

Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:14 am

genesim wrote:I too think that "overweight" has been done to death.


Yet you clearly have a different perspective - the complete opposite one, in fact - on his pill addiction...

genesim wrote:Still one thing that I see from the pictures. He looks high as a kite in each and every one.


High on life!

Is it too hard to imagine that, although he might have had some drugs in his system in these photos, he's just plain happy and goofing around?

I guess not.