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Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:17 pm
Simon1 wrote:And I don't think we are in the minority......
Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:20 pm
Simon1 wrote:Hi Rob,
I am also a mega fan of Elvis from 1969 onwards. I of course like the Fifties but the Seventies are where it's at, for me personally.
Yep, me too. When I think of Elvis, I think of him in 1969 or 1970 when he made the records and gave the concerts that I think of as his best work, his zenith.
I like 50s elvis. I love
the later Elvis.
Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:50 pm
I do agree he made several pretty good albums in his later years but I was revering to his image in the 70s [ say 1972- onwards ] both on and off stage. To me he sometimes looked a mixture between a Xmas tree and a pimp from a Shaft flick...While during the 50s he ALWAYS looked cool as a fridge! And that is why I feel so bad about the inclusion of the 70s pix at the end of MP.It nearly made you forget the timeless BEAUTY of those 1950s images presented during the first 25 minutes.
Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:52 pm
I think some of this "'50s vs. the '70s" is a bit unneccesary (I love it all!), but Ger is on to something.
As the best '50s shots show, they have a classic, even eternal timelessness, while much of the '60s and '70s can be accused of being dated, and badly at that at times.
Don't get me wrong, I'm as big a '70s defender (and fan) as they come, but Elvis in the '50s is a real "sit down and shut up" to anyone who even tries to pan him. Sure, '68 is like that, but the '50s photos make the Elvis-hater realize: maybe I am missing something. That cat was cool!
Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:55 pm
Tallhair AKA Ger Rijff wrote:Good morning all. I was not involved in the making of MP although BBC seriously considered using a heep from my photo collection when they contacted me at the beginning of this year. They made a selection but shortly after dropped plans when I told them I could not claim copyright for each and every photo they had selected. Somewhere along the line the Presley Estate stepped in and threatened the BBC not to use Elvis material before they had seen it and OK it . BBC bowed their heads as they fully suspected the Estate to claim copyright on my material and ask 500 bucks per photo from the BBC. Thats how the Estate eleminate the little people. To be continued...
Can you believe that? Make EPE mad: track down a copy of the "Definitive Elvis" 12-hour, 8-DVD documentary that they sued over in 2004. This set by Passport Video is hard to come by now, but was put together by folks who didn't give a hoot about EPE.
It was done with a lot of love and care - and damn the lawyers!
Public domain, baby!
Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:58 pm
am also a mega fan of Elvis from 1969 onwards. I of course like the Fifties but the Seventies are where it's at, for me personally.
And I don't think we are in the minority, in fact I believe very strongly there are more Seventies fans than Fifties fans.
Vegas '69/'70, Madison Square Garden, Aloha, well how could any Fifties event beat that?
I allways wondered ( being a fan from the 50s) would Elvis have become a superstar and the King of Rock and Roll with the music he made in the seventies?? Or would he have been some kind of Liberace in those outragious jumpsuits and famous in Las Vegas and surrounding deserts??
Just a question, don`t tear me apart, please.
Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:30 pm
" wrote :
I allways wondered ( being a fan from the 50s) would Elvis have become a superstar and the King of Rock and Roll with the music he made in the seventies?? Or would he have been some kind of Liberace in those outragious jumpsuits and famous in Las Vegas and surrounding deserts?
Just a question, don`t tear me apart, please
Wim, his music continued to be based
on the '50s music and was a natural outgrowth of it. Besides, it's false to assume his '50s persona was somehow "all rock." Ballads and pop were a part of the mix from 1953 onward.
I think it's unfortunate to group him in with Liberace, too.
The '70s, after all, were the '70s
Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:14 am
Although quite a few fans bothered to read what was said about this TV programme, few UK and Dutch fans who must have seen it that night did actually make a comment having liked it or not?... I cant frickin believe more people on this mb have an opinion about Harum Frickin Scarem !
Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:44 am
Nice one Steve! I missed it.
Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:13 pm
Thank you Steve_ Why is it Steve _ instead of Steve- ????? See you bro, and dont Bogard that joint my friend... [ from Easy Rider that old hippy flick remember ?! ]
Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:51 am
I love all the eras........but I gravitate towards the comeback era as well
Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:05 am
Received a complimentary copy of the catalog Most Photographed from the`National Portrait Gallery in London yesterday. Catalog? Its a 200 pgs hardcover book with dustjacket ! 19 pgs are dedicated to Elvis focusing on the Wertheimer images. Also seen are 9 photos from my collection with one Jailhouse Rock publicity shot being credited from It Happened At the WF ! Aaaaarrgh ! They also misspelled my name on the Acknowledgements page... Great job guys !
Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:39 am
I'm not sure if this is what you're referring to Ger but there is a book to tie-in with the series available for 20 quid (30 euro)
Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:15 am
Yep ! On the backcover is a fairly large Elvis image, a Wertheimer ofcourse !Man, I consider myself one lucky amigo having published two photobooks on his material : Elvis - Songs of Innocence and The Hottest thing thats Cool. Go out there and get these priceless beauties ! heh... heh...
Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:27 am
W'John, you make good points about the primacy of Elvis in the '50s. I wasn't "there," but my mother was and I later received her 45 rpms with (I hope) some of the same enthusiam of kids of earlier generations. I remember being really into all of the '50s stuff. Later, especially coming into my teens (and being on the defensive about Elvis' demise, due to the P.R. of the 1980s, etc.), Elvis in the '50s was someone I could (try) to model and "idolize" as opposed to his tamer movie persona and jumpsuited era. When I "pushed" Elvis among some friends, it was the '50s Elvis I reached for, plus a little of "Elvis Is Back" and the '68 Singer / "comeback" special
It's only as I get on in years (and match Elvis' own years), that I find myself inclined toward the later material. But put on, say, the "Loving You" album (I'm listening to Budd's great 2005 remaster as we speak), and I recall all over again how this album hit me as a kid.
It's not fair to say this, but Elvis' legend was sealed even if he never "came back" from the Army in 1960...(Imagine a tragic accident or something.) His '50s stuff would allow him to loom large just as well. Some, I think it was Peter Gurlanick, have even made the same claim for his Sun recordings of 1954-56, that his legend was already one for the ages.
The "Most photographed" project (book / exhibit etc.) sounds interesting, save for the ghastly error(s) Ger mentioned. (Jailhouse & World's Fair?! Sounds like an Elvis hater's attempt at a sick "joke")
I will have to check out what you've posted at a better computer, Steve M. Thanks for posting it.
Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:43 am
Gregory Nolan Jr. wrote:It's not fair to say this, but Elvis' legend was sealed even if he never "came back" from the Army in 1960.
That's a very fair comment to say the least!
Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:52 am
Tell that to the FECC "Jumpsuit Junkies" as they are known!
Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:31 am
Good morning ! For some fresh oil on the fire... Heres what a Dutch tv weekly had to say about the movie 3000 Miles to Graceland [ 2001 ] this week on our screen : 'Set against an Elvis impersonaters week held in Las Vegas , Kevin Kostner, Kurt Russel and Christian Slater - in jumpsuits - mangle in with the impersonaters while planning to rob one of the casinos . The only one not looking like a real DORK is Kurt Russel! Thanks largely to the imperson lunies - and with a little too much help from our Hero himself - the 70s Elvis to many "outsiders " will never be taken seriously , no matter the good stuff recorded in his later years.... Its the 50s Elvis that forever will shine.
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:37 am
My only real complaint about the programe is that it should have been at least a half hour longer & included more of the other photographers that have already been mentioned above.
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:40 am
Steve_M wrote:Find pictures from the 70's of Elvis not looking cool. Little bit easier.
...IS NOT COOL.
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:41 am
Part of it is that time hasn't treated a lot of the 70s fashions very kindly and part is that Elvis' appearance had deteriorated since the 50s. To take the fashion point, can you imagine Elvis in a baggy tracksuit in the 50s? A third element is the absence of studio portraits in the 70s. Candid or formal, Elvis looked amazing in the 50s shots, but as the 70s progressed, the candids became more unflattering as his weight ballooned and his hair and sideburns got frankly out of control. The worst thing is that the media have often used some of the most unflattering 70s photos to accompany poisonous and often ill informed articles about Elvis since his death.
Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:37 am
Steve_M wrote:Well having done all that and put the whole program up on the server there seems to be no takers.....
I tried Steve and I'm sure several others did also, perhaps the file is too big? Mind you I'm working on windows '76!
Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:06 am
I tried to download/stream the file but failed. Probably my PC though.
Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:21 am
Steve_M wrote:Eh ? what did you try ? It's has been tried and tested, works fine.
It worked expediently for me, found it quite interesting. Your generosity in sharing, Steve, is greatly appreciated!
The ending of the program was disappointing, not to mention the commentator's remarks about the 70's falling away so far from the "real" Elvis. Equally disappointing is the absence of so many spectacular photos from that era; there were truckloads more of them, in fact, than unflattering ones.
Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:41 am
Elvis never should have worn a jumpsuit outside in broad daylight. Definitely not a cool pic.