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Jailhouse Rock & King Creole - Revisited

Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:01 am

OK I lied - not a 'proper' review of the film, but just something that occurred to me.

That famous 'staged' sequence of the title song.

Always felt something was wrong with it, but couldn't put my finger on it.

But looking at the avatar of our very own 'The Purple Gang' member, I realised !

They've got a pole thing that runs up to the upper level of the 'prison block'.

Elvis leans against it, then slides down !

But prisons don't have poles like that !

It's fire stations that have those !

It's taken over 50 years for that to dawn on me !

Oh well.....................
Last edited by ColinB on Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:05 am

Colin

I'll just have to bow to your obviously much wider knowledge of prison interiors.

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:38 am

Spellbinder wrote:Colin

I'll just have to bow to your obviously much wider knowledge of prison interiors.


Well, I've watched Porridge and countless documentaries.

Rather than put in things to speed up getting from top to bottom, they put up barriers to slow down [or rather stop] anyone trying to make that trip !

It's the firemen who need that speedy descent, not prisoners !

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:43 am

But you're not making any sense.

Dancing to the firestation rock just doesn't sound or scan so well.

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:54 am

Spellbinder wrote:But you're not making any sense.

Dancing to the firestation rock just doesn't sound or scan so well.


Well, I wasn't suggesting they should have changed the song !

It had to be in a prison, didn't it ?

It's just that the pole belonged elsewhere.............................

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:56 am

Anyway why would they send Vince to a firestation for manslaughter? That would be a crazy story line.

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:00 am

Spellbinder wrote:Anyway why would they send Vince to a firestation for manslaughter?
That would be a crazy story line.


Ever started a thread, and then wished you'd never bothered ?

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:29 am

ColinB wrote:
Spellbinder wrote:Anyway why would they send Vince to a firestation for manslaughter?
That would be a crazy story line.


Ever started a thread, and then wished you'd never bothered ?


I hear you, I'm still reeling from gwsells ass thread earlier today! :oops:

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:51 am

There's plenty of pole slidin' in prison. Remember #47 and #3?

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:24 am

Pete Dube wrote:There's plenty of pole slidin' in prison. Remember #47 and #3?


Not that sort of pole !

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:47 am

Pete Dube wrote:There's plenty of pole slidin' in prison. Remember #47 and #3?

I may never get that image out of my head.

Thanks a bunch, Pete.

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:40 am

Rob wrote:
Pete Dube wrote:There's plenty of pole slidin' in prison. Remember #47 and #3?

I may never get that image out of my head.

Thanks a bunch, Pete.


If you think that's bad Rob, then I best not get into what Sad Sack did with that wooden chair.

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:12 pm

Pete Dube wrote:
Rob wrote:
Pete Dube wrote:There's plenty of pole slidin' in prison. Remember #47 and #3?

I may never get that image out of my head.

Thanks a bunch, Pete.


If you think that's bad Rob, then I best not get into what Sad Sack did with that wooden chair.


Well, he was doin' the same as No.47 & No.3 ................................ they all were doin' The Jailhouse Rock !

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:10 pm

ColinB wrote:
Pete Dube wrote:
Rob wrote:
Pete Dube wrote:There's plenty of pole slidin' in prison. Remember #47 and #3?

I may never get that image out of my head.

Thanks a bunch, Pete.


If you think that's bad Rob, then I best not get into what Sad Sack did with that wooden chair.


Well, he was doin' the same as No.47 & No.3 ................................ they all were doin' The Jailhouse Rock !


never mind

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:53 am

Eh...it was filmed on a studio lot,made to look like a tv studio ie,nothing to do with in side a prison as such...


(get yer key"s KEV and lock up behind you ...47 "ouch")

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:16 am

iamhekev wrote:Eh...it was filmed on a studio lot,made to look like a tv studio ie,nothing to do with in side a prison as such...


Yes, a film studio set, made to look like a tv studio set, made to look like a prison............

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:37 am

ColinB wrote:
Pete Dube wrote:
Rob wrote:
Pete Dube wrote:There's plenty of pole slidin' in prison. Remember #47 and #3?

I may never get that image out of my head.

Thanks a bunch, Pete.


If you think that's bad Rob, then I best not get into what Sad Sack did with that wooden chair.


Well, he was doin' the same as No.47 & No.3 ................................ they all were doin' The Jailhouse Rock !


I reckon you've never been in a Turkish prison Colin. :)

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:07 pm

Pete Dube wrote:I reckon you've never been in a Turkish prison Colin. :)


Well, no, actually, but I saw what happened to Peter O'Toole in Lawrence of Arabia.

Does that count ?

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:12 pm

ColinB wrote:
Pete Dube wrote:I reckon you've never been in a Turkish prison Colin. :)


Well, no, actually, but I saw what happened to Peter O'Toole in Lawrence of Arabia.

Does that count ?


Now just hold on a moment. What happens to Elvis in Jailhouse Rock isn't real, but what happens to Peter O'Toole in Lawrence Of Arabia is?

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:17 pm

Spellbinder wrote:Now just hold on a moment.
What happens to Elvis in Jailhouse Rock isn't real, but what happens to Peter O'Toole in Lawrence Of Arabia is?


Well, I never said that, did I ?

I simply stated that I saw what O'Toole's fate was in that film, although I've never been in a real Turkish prison.

So I have no idea whether the Lawrence of Arabia depiction was accurate or not.

Firemen's poles, however, were conspicious by their absence.............

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:25 pm

ColinB wrote:
Spellbinder wrote:Now just hold on a moment.
What happens to Elvis in Jailhouse Rock isn't real, but what happens to Peter O'Toole in Lawrence Of Arabia is?


Well, I never said that, did I ?

I simply stated that I saw what O'Toole's fate was in that film, although I've never been in a real Turkish prison.

So I have no idea whether the Lawrence of Arabia depiction was accurate or not.

Firemen's poles, however, were conspicious by their absence.............


Well if there were no firemen's poles in the Lawrence Of Arabia sequences we can, I think, conclude that the depiction was not accurate. Can't we? Now, hold on, I'm getting confused here. Did we decide that "Firestation Rock" was the original lyric or not? And were there any Poles on the Titanic?

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:42 pm

Spellbinder wrote:Well if there were no firemen's poles in the Lawrence Of Arabia sequences we can, I think, conclude that the depiction was not accurate.
Can't we? Why ?
Now, hold on, I'm getting confused here. No change there, then....
Did we decide that "Firestation Rock" was the original lyric or not? It wasn't
And were there any Poles on the Titanic? Yes there were, & a few Hungarians too...

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:55 pm

One of the Hungarians on the Titanic was a bit of a hero. I don't remember the details. Something to do with rescuing a child who had slipped overboard and everyone gave up on it except him.

I read about it years ago - around the time when the wreck was first located.

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:59 am

So, Colin---that was the only difference you found between a real prison and this dance sequence? I see others.

Re: Jailhouse Rock - Revisited

Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:21 pm

ekenee wrote:So, Colin---that was the only difference you found between a real prison and this dance sequence?
I see others.


Well, I didn't actually say that.

Not a 'mistake' as such, but when that lag gets coshed into unconsciousness by the screw & Elvis moves forward, I always expect him to get bashed too !

But the screw just starts tapping his other hand with his cosh in time to the beat !

Elvis was obviously one of the 'untouchables' !

So ekenee, what differences have you spotted ?

I think we should be told !