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Re: Religious Affiliation?

Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:08 pm

elviscollector101 wrote:i have had a near death experience myself , i wrecked my dad's new restored 1973 chevy truck when i was 16 , mustang came out of a curve on the wrong side of the road , to avoid i missed the car but the truck got away and i thought i was hitting a fence not knowing there was a 250 foot drop downhill on the other side . my and a girl was in the truck , no seatbelt's , we jump thru the fence and go down the hill . at this point it becomes slow motion and yes my life passed before my eyes as i seen things i did not remember . God and Jesus was watching over us that day for sure and saved us from dying and i owe them all . some point my foot hit the pedal and we was running 100 miles a hr . we hit a rock embankment , the truck is totaled . the bed is twisted seven times , bust all window's , the battery is laying 60 feet from the truck . from the front bumper to the dash is crumpled like a rolled up can . the crazy thing is that dad had a bug shield on the hood , it had a gospel saying on it that meant God will provide . the hood is completely gone and the bug shield layed beside the truck and not scratched nor broke and he still has it . it was bolted to the front of the hood , my face hit the steering wheel and my nose got broke but that was it . i had a broke nose and she was fine . that will make you appericate life for sure . also about someone dying , my dad is a pastor / preacher and he is called in alot to visit with people who are dying and has been with alot of people as they died as most families want a minister with them and he said they all say the same thing about a really , really bright and warm light and when he tell's them to walk toward it they pass away . he said all of them that could talk has said this , so being more than one there must be something to it . as he say's life is but a vapor and you are here for such a short time , makes you wonder . don't get to caught up on the religion side for sure , like catholic 's believe in purgatory , were do they get that from as it is not mentioned in the Bible at all . i have always wondered where they got that at , the Bible does not mention it at all .
Near death people experience what they believe. The YouTube video earlier in this thread had a woman speak of purgatory a great deal. So you survived your accident. That happens. How do we jump to the conclusion God did it? Why didn't he do it for my friend's wife who pulled out of her parents driveway and was killed instantly when a teenager not paying attention slammed into her? Good Catholic girl too.

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:59 am

If I tell you, I'll have to ?*&$ you ;-)
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Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:17 am

WMarkJ wrote:
elviscollector101 wrote:i have had a near death experience myself , i wrecked my dad's new restored 1973 chevy truck when i was 16 , mustang came out of a curve on the wrong side of the road , to avoid i missed the car but the truck got away and i thought i was hitting a fence not knowing there was a 250 foot drop downhill on the other side . my and a girl was in the truck , no seatbelt's , we jump thru the fence and go down the hill . at this point it becomes slow motion and yes my life passed before my eyes as i seen things i did not remember . God and Jesus was watching over us that day for sure and saved us from dying and i owe them all . some point my foot hit the pedal and we was running 100 miles a hr . we hit a rock embankment , the truck is totaled . the bed is twisted seven times , bust all window's , the battery is laying 60 feet from the truck . from the front bumper to the dash is crumpled like a rolled up can . the crazy thing is that dad had a bug shield on the hood , it had a gospel saying on it that meant God will provide . the hood is completely gone and the bug shield layed beside the truck and not scratched nor broke and he still has it . it was bolted to the front of the hood , my face hit the steering wheel and my nose got broke but that was it . i had a broke nose and she was fine . that will make you appericate life for sure . also about someone dying , my dad is a pastor / preacher and he is called in alot to visit with people who are dying and has been with alot of people as they died as most families want a minister with them and he said they all say the same thing about a really , really bright and warm light and when he tell's them to walk toward it they pass away . he said all of them that could talk has said this , so being more than one there must be something to it . as he say's life is but a vapor and you are here for such a short time , makes you wonder . don't get to caught up on the religion side for sure , like catholic 's believe in purgatory , were do they get that from as it is not mentioned in the Bible at all . i have always wondered where they got that at , the Bible does not mention it at all .
Near death people experience what they believe. The YouTube video earlier in this thread had a woman speak of purgatory a great deal. So you survived your accident. That happens. How do we jump to the conclusion God did it? Why didn't he do it for my friend's wife who pulled out of her parents driveway and was killed instantly when a teenager not paying attention slammed into her? Good Catholic girl too.
no answers to this from the energizer bunny blind faith peeps?

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:25 am

I believe God works in mysterious ways....even through tragedy and despair. There's a reason for everything. I know it's hard to process and understand, but God has a master plan for all of us. I believe God had much bigger plans for those innocent infants that die needlessly through hunger & disease. God wanted them in heaven much sooner, that's all. I can say the same for those poor animals who die through neglect and abuse in shelters. A tough pill to swallow in human terms, but there IS a God and there is Karma in this cosmos. You just have to believe.


I am replying as we are chatting on our thoughts, and not trying to convert anyone, just out looks.

To me, "Love" shouldn't take away innocents. To me, it makes no sense and that really, we need to think out what we were taught as children and if it really does make sense, or not.

Are people, who are talking about their After Death Experiences just wanting attention? To me, some get involved in their story and believe themselves after a while as it feels good. Their words, their body language, how they are portraying their story, to my observation, is giving them pleasure, and they believe what makes them feel good.

Is religion just an excuse to control the masses? It goes that way for a few reasons for me. One big one, is that if people are questioned on religion, they are taught to become angry and defensive. That isn't love. They are taught that they are better than others, because of their religion. That isn't love. I am only just touching on examples.

King Henry VIII, King of England, Head of the Church, changed religion to suit his lusts. Is that love? No. What a big proportion of priests have done to little children, is that love? No. What nuns in schools have done, bashing little children, is that love? No.

Burning peoples' houses down, killing their first born. Is that love? No.

I wonder if that fallen Angel has done as much harm.

Tibetan Buddhism, on the other hand, treasures every little creature, there is kindness, understanding, and love.

It is interesting, my eyes are never closed; however, it is good to think. What is love? Is it fire and brimstone? No.

Hugs.

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:33 am

Mountain Misst wrote:
I believe God works in mysterious ways....even through tragedy and despair. There's a reason for everything. I know it's hard to process and understand, but God has a master plan for all of us. I believe God had much bigger plans for those innocent infants that die needlessly through hunger & disease. God wanted them in heaven much sooner, that's all. I can say the same for those poor animals who die through neglect and abuse in shelters. A tough pill to swallow in human terms, but there IS a God and there is Karma in this cosmos. You just have to believe.


I am replying as we are chatting on our thoughts, and not trying to convert anyone, just out looks.

To me, "Love" shouldn't take away innocents. To me, it makes no sense and that really, we need to think out what we were taught as children and if it really does make sense, or not.

Are people, who are talking about their After Death Experiences just wanting attention? To me, some get involved in their story and believe themselves after a while as it feels good. Their words, their body language, how they are portraying their story, to my observation, is giving them pleasure, and they believe what makes them feel good.

Is religion just an excuse to control the masses? It goes that way for a few reasons to me. One big one, is that if people are questioned on religion, they are taught to become angry and defensive. That isn't love. They are taught that they are better than others, because of their religion. That isn't love. I am only just touching on examples.

King Henry VIII, King of England, Head of the Church, changed religion to suit his lusts. Is that love? No. What a big proportion of priests have done to little children, is that love? No. What nuns in schools have done, bashing little children, is that love? No.

Burning peoples' houses down, killing their first born. Is that love? No.

I wonder if that fallen Angel has done as much harm.

Tibetan Buddhism, on the other hand, treasures every little creature, there is kindness, understanding, and love.

It is interesting, my eyes are never closed; however, it is good to think. What is love? Is it fire and brimstone? No.

Hugs.

"If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless."
While I can't answer for all believers, nor would I want to, I can say that I don't understand how anyone calling himself a Christian can hate gays or want to destroy people who perform abortions. If a Christian believes that abortion is wrong, then kills the abortionist, he's just as wrong as what he perceived the abortionist to be. So his religion is worthless. But if he loves his neighbor and helps those in need, this is perfect love.

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:31 am

Mountain Misst wrote:
Hugs.


This sure is a touchy subject. It's really difficult to walk the talk when sometimes we even contradict ourselves without even realizing it.
Hugs back at ya Missty. So nice to hear from you again. :) :) :) :) :)

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:50 am

bunnygirl wrote:"If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless."
While I can't answer for all believers, nor would I want to, I can say that I don't understand how anyone calling himself a Christian can hate gays or want to destroy people who perform abortions. If a Christian believes that abortion is wrong, then kills the abortionist, he's just as wrong as what he perceived the abortionist to be. So his religion is worthless. But if he loves his neighbor and helps those in need, this is perfect love.


So true. Not easy being a Christian. "Narrow is the path.."

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Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:33 pm

TCB-FAN wrote:
Mountain Misst wrote:
Hugs.


This sure is a touchy subject. It's really difficult to walk the talk when sometimes we even contradict ourselves without even realizing it.
Hugs back at ya Missty. So nice to hear from you again. :) :) :) :) :)



I don't think I contradicted myself on such a sensitive subject. :D

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:38 pm

I can't imagine humans without religion; we are the only species on Earth that knows we are all going to die.

It is an understatement to say it is a very difficult knowledge with which to live.

rjm

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Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:23 pm

Facebook really revealed to me the blind faith in Jesus and co that many Americans tend to have.
'God is good' seems to be a kind of mantra to some people.
They ask for people to send up prayers for their sick relative who is undergoing high-tech scientifically researched treatment by trained doctors, and then praise God when the doctors heal them.
Such a load of bull. If you believe God is doing the healing, save yourselves the trip to the ER.
Then of course if their relative gets better they say that God guided the hands of the doctors.
Rubbish. Years of training guided their hands.
And the scientific research that led to the treatment.

I have to actually sit on my hands and not comment much of the time, because this attitude really pisses me off big time.

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:22 pm

rjm wrote:I can't imagine humans without religion; we are the only species on Earth that knows we are all going to die.

It is an understatement to say it is a very difficult knowledge with which to live.

rjm

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Richard Dawkins said, "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think". His theory is that as IQ increases, faith decreases. I guess that's where "blind faith" steps in for the believer whose IQ is a bit higher. :D

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:43 pm

Mountain Misst wrote:
TCB-FAN wrote:
Mountain Misst wrote:
Hugs.


This sure is a touchy subject. It's really difficult to walk the talk when sometimes we even contradict ourselves without even realizing it.
Hugs back at ya Missty. So nice to hear from you again. :) :) :) :) :)



I don't think I contradicted myself on such a sensitive subject. :D


LOL, not you of course.....I meant living a good clean life based on our beliefs 100% of the time....which is impossible for all of us because we're human and we are constantly bombarded with temptation and such. Hard to beat the devil on our own. :wink:

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:50 pm

My IQ increased 20 points when I realized Jesus has been mighty quiet since his crucifixion, and his book was written by the finger of men. Men even made the decision which letters and books would be included in the " Word of God" and which would not. My apologies if I'm confusing anyone with facts.
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Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:51 pm

Why do you need an imaginary friend in the sky to be good people?
I don't.

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:57 pm

JaneTLC wrote:Why do you need an imaginary friend in the sky to be good people?
I don't.



Oh Jane, I could start a lengthy debate that could last months on why it is so essential to include God in our lives........but right now I just don't have the energy to do so. This nasty rubbish winter weather has pretty much worn me out.

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:33 pm

TCB-FAN wrote:I believe God works in mysterious ways....even through tragedy and despair. There's a reason for everything. I know it's hard to process and understand, but God has a master plan for all of us. I believe God had much bigger plans for those innocent infants that die needlessly through hunger & disease. God wanted them in heaven much sooner, that's all. I can say the same for those poor animals who die through neglect and abuse in shelters. A tough pill to swallow in human terms, but there IS a God and there is Karma in this cosmos. You just have to believe.


So, in other words, no matter what happens God gets a pass? (Using a Fox News word here :wink: )
If something good happens God gets the credit. If something bad happens then it's because he works in "mysterious ways." If a plane were filled with 500 kids and they all die in a crash save for one child then it would be considered a "miracle." The other 499 would be "called home" but the surviving child would singled out as a "miracle." It would be part of God's "Master Plan." Even if the surviving child were maimed beyond recognition. This all seems a bit too convenient and easy.

And it also seems pretty self-important to think that there is a supernatural being who takes a constant special interest in one's activities, thoughts, etc. (Is God watching when you watch porn? It seems that a lot of Christian men here have a thing for pornographic images as demonstrated in the strange Alize thread.)

No one knows for sure whether there is a God or not. There is no proof that there is a God and there is no proof that there isn't a God. There's also no proof that there isn't a Celestial Teapot floating around. (Bertrand Russell reference.) There's no proof that we weren't all created 5 seconds ago and were given built-in memories. That may sound silly but the fact is that we don't know.

What I do know is that being a good person is something that we should all strive for whether we believe in a supernatural being or not. We should not need a supernatural being to threaten us into being good. This should be an innate belief in everyone -- not a belief created out of fear. I give to multiple charities because I know it's the right thing to do. I don't do it because I want payback later in the form of everlasting life. I don't believe in Karma and I'm not interested in Karma. I remember I worked with someone who bought a toy for some charity and he said, "I'm doing it for good Karma." I realized he wasn't doing the good deed for the child who received the toy but for his own benefit in the form of "good Karma."

My chemical makeup is that I worry about other people and I want to do everything I can to make the world a better place. I don't need a promise of eternal life or the threat of eternal hellfire to make me want to do good things.

bunnygirl wrote:While I can't answer for all believers, nor would I want to, I can say that I don't understand how anyone calling himself a Christian can hate gays or want to destroy people who perform abortions. If a Christian believes that abortion is wrong, then kills the abortionist, he's just as wrong as what he perceived the abortionist to be. So his religion is worthless. But if he loves his neighbor and helps those in need, this is perfect love.


I know that bunnygirl and I have different views on religion but this is a lovely paragraph. I wish you spoke for all Christians!
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Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:18 pm

InheritTheWind wrote:
TCB-FAN wrote:I believe God works in mysterious ways....even through tragedy and despair. There's a reason for everything. I know it's hard to process and understand, but God has a master plan for all of us. I believe God had much bigger plans for those innocent infants that die needlessly through hunger & disease. God wanted them in heaven much sooner, that's all. I can say the same for those poor animals who die through neglect and abuse in shelters. A tough pill to swallow in human terms, but there IS a God and there is Karma in this cosmos. You just have to believe.


So, in other words, no matter what happens God gets a pass? (Using a Fox News word here :wink: )
If something good happens God gets the credit. If something bad happens then it's because he works in "mysterious ways." If a plane were filled with 500 kids and they all die in a crash save for one child then it would be considered a "miracle." The other 499 would be "called home" but the surviving child would singled out as a "miracle." It would be part of God's "Master Plan." Even if the surviving child were maimed beyond recognition. This all seems a bit too convenient and easy.

And it also seems pretty self-important to think that there is a supernatural being who takes a constant special interest in one's activities, thoughts, etc. (Is God watching when you watch porn? It seems that a lot of Christian men here have a thing for pornographic images as demonstrated in the strange Alize thread.)

No one knows for sure whether there is a God or not. There is no proof that there is a God and there is no proof that there isn't a God. There's also no proof that there isn't a Celestial Teapot floating around. (Bertrand Russels reference.) There's no proof that we weren't all created 5 seconds ago and were given built-in memories. That may sound silly but the fact is that we don't know.

What I do know is that being a good person is something that we should all strive for whether we believe in a supernatural being or not. We should not need a supernatural being to threaten us into being good. This should be an innate belief in everyone -- not a belief created out of fear. I give to multiple charities because I know it's the right thing to do. I don't do it because I want payback later in the form of everlasting life. I don't believe in Karma and I'm not interested in Karma. I remember I worked with someone who bought a toy for some charity and he said, "I'm doing it for good Karma." I realized he wasn't doing the good deed for the child who received the toy but for his own benefit in the form of "good Karma."

My chemical makeup is that I worry about other people and I want to do everything I can to make the world a better place. I don't need a promise of eternal life or the threat of eternal hellfire to make me want to do good things.

bunnygirl wrote:While I can't answer for all believers, nor would I want to, I can say that I don't understand how anyone calling himself a Christian can hate gays or want to destroy people who perform abortions. If a Christian believes that abortion is wrong, then kills the abortionist, he's just as wrong as what he perceived the abortionist to be. So his religion is worthless. But if he loves his neighbor and helps those in need, this is perfect love.


I know that bunnygirl and I have different views on religion but this is a lovely paragraph. I wish you spoke for all Christians!

Thank you for the kind words! I can't tell you how relieved I am that I don't have to answer for anyone else's opinions or beliefs. I've got enough to contend with when it comes to my own issues. :smt039

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:48 pm

bunnygirl wrote:
rjm wrote:I can't imagine humans without religion; we are the only species on Earth that knows we are all going to die.

It is an understatement to say it is a very difficult knowledge with which to live.

rjm

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Richard Dawkins said, "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think". His theory is that as IQ increases, faith decreases. I guess that's where "blind faith" steps in for the believer whose IQ is a bit higher. :D



Again, the running down of others, "us" and "them" and thinking one is better than the other. That isn't Love.

Perhaps have a look at a Study.

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:24 pm

Mountain Misst wrote:
bunnygirl wrote:
rjm wrote:I can't imagine humans without religion; we are the only species on Earth that knows we are all going to die.

It is an understatement to say it is a very difficult knowledge with which to live.

rjm

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Richard Dawkins said, "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think". His theory is that as IQ increases, faith decreases. I guess that's where "blind faith" steps in for the believer whose IQ is a bit higher. :D



Again, the running down of others, "us" and "them" and thinking one is better than the other. That isn't Love.

Perhaps have a look at a Study.

Dawkins or me?

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:05 am

God or a supreme "diety" has to exist. I cannot prove it physically or scientifically with data, but I'll give you an example of why one cannot say "God does not exist".

The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter. Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.

The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.

And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.


Perhaps a master genius puppeteer is responsible for all of this "chaos" ??

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:12 am

TCB-FAN wrote:God or a supreme "diety" has to exist. I cannot prove it physically or scientifically with data, but I'll give you an example of why one cannot say "God does not exist".

The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter. Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.

The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.

And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.


Perhaps a master genius puppeteer is responsible for all of this "chaos" ??

Perhaps...perhaps God holds it all in His hands.
What happens when we start to discuss religion is that to some it appears "elitist". The same with science. Scientists can appear to be elitist. Any group could. But then again, we're free to believe or not. I choose to believe. For me, there is no other way. Great post, by the way.

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:22 am

bunnygirl wrote:
TCB-FAN wrote:God or a supreme "diety" has to exist. I cannot prove it physically or scientifically with data, but I'll give you an example of why one cannot say "God does not exist".

The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter. Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.

The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.

And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.


Perhaps a master genius puppeteer is responsible for all of this "chaos" ??

Perhaps...perhaps God holds it all in His hands.
What happens when we start to discuss religion is that to some it appears "elitist". The same with science. Scientists can appear to be elitist. Any group could. But then again, we're free to believe or not. I choose to believe. For me, there is no other way. Great post, by the way.




BG, I'm just glad you're on the same page as I am in terms of being a believer. Jesus Christ (Yeshua) is part of the divine diety,He died on the cross for my sins (and yours too), He IS the Son of the Living God, and I believe He WILL return one day to rule and reign as the King of Kings and Lord Of Lords !!!! Oh what a Happy Day that will be for me, and I don't care what the disbelievers and atheists think !!!! Only a fool would think that there is no God, IMHO.

"Thy Kingdom Come, Thy WILL be Done....On Earth as it ALREADY IS In Heaven.."

Amen And Amen !!!!!!!

"Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God...and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him..." (Philippians 2:5-9 NKJV)


BTW, Where's Tony Trout to defend my case ?? lol

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Re: Religious Affiliation?

Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:45 am

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Re: Religious Affiliation?

Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:51 am

TCB-FAN wrote:
bunnygirl wrote:
TCB-FAN wrote:God or a supreme "diety" has to exist. I cannot prove it physically or scientifically with data, but I'll give you an example of why one cannot say "God does not exist".

The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter. Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.

The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.

And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.


Perhaps a master genius puppeteer is responsible for all of this "chaos" ??

Perhaps...perhaps God holds it all in His hands.
What happens when we start to discuss religion is that to some it appears "elitist". The same with science. Scientists can appear to be elitist. Any group could. But then again, we're free to believe or not. I choose to believe. For me, there is no other way. Great post, by the way.




BG, I'm just glad you're on the same page as I am in terms of being a believer. Jesus Christ (Yeshua) is part of the divine diety,He died on the cross for my sins (and yours too), He IS the Son of the Living God, and I believe He WILL return one day to rule and reign as the King of Kings and Lord Of Lords !!!! Oh what a Happy Day that will be for me, and I don't care what the disbelievers and atheists think !!!! Only a fool would think that there is no God, IMHO.

"Thy Kingdom Come, Thy WILL be Done....On Earth as it ALREADY IS In Heaven.."

Amen And Amen !!!!!!!

"Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God...and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him..." (Philippians 2:5-9 NKJV)


BTW, Where's Tony Trout to defend my case ?? lol

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Can we refrain those who don't believe as we do "fools"? There's no need to antagonize people further. Let's show that our God is a God of Love.

Re: Religious Affiliation?

Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:55 am

Lonely Summer wrote: Let's show that our God is a God of Love.



Yes ! And more than you'll ever know. :smt023

I see His love everytime I look into my pet kitten's beautiful eyes. :) ="-"= ="-"=
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