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Re: November 22, 1963 (Rare Photo)

Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:59 pm

rjm wrote:
If any of you ever get in a jam, I would hope that you are not prejudged in this way. And that you will fight for your rights.


Damn straight Robin ! We all have rights, even when charged.

Re: November 22, 1963 (Rare Photo)

Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:36 am

rjm wrote:What does that mean? He made a fist?
A calm intentional act of defiance. He was saying 'you've got me, but I got the President, job done'.

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rjm wrote: He consistently declared his innocence, always.
Really, when asked 'Did you kill the President?' Oswald replied, "No, I have not been charged with that. In fact nobody has said that to me yet".

Not exactly a declaration of innocence, he was asked if he had killed the President, not if had been charged with killing the President.


rjm wrote: Black power salutes did not yet exist, and this is not a victory sign.
Communist and militant groups have used the clenched fist salute since the 1930's.


rjm wrote:If any of you ever get in a jam, I would hope that you are not prejudged in this way.
That was quite a jam he found himself in.

Re: November 22, 1963 (Rare Photo)

Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:04 pm

Bill Newman, a credible eyewitness claims all 3 shots came from the grassy knoll.

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Here is Bill Newman some 50 years later in an interview with Jesse Ventura describing the same thing.

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Re: November 22, 1963 (Rare Photo)

Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:32 am

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Re: November 22, 1963 (Rare Photo)

Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:31 pm

That "gesture" or "clenched fist salute", is a perfect example of seeing things the way we want to see them.
We want to believe what we want to believe. What we need to believe, really.

Re: November 22, 1963 (Rare Photo)

Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:09 am

Bob-Holland wrote:We want to believe what we want to believe.


Amen to that.