Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:23 pm
jacob wrote:elvisalisellers wrote:jacob wrote:...Tyson was ,perhaps ,just as quick as Ali,puched harder...
All of Tyson's power and speed counted for nothing when he was in with the best of his era.jacob wrote:Sonny Liston was a old man...
Go watch a few of Liston's fights [pre-Ali] and it should be clear as daylight what Ali achieved in his two fight demolition of him.
IMO Liston quit on both occasions,in the first fight because he knew he was going to get beat and in the second I believe he took a dive...
jacob wrote:When Tyson was at his peak before the outside troubles got the better of him(1985-8) power and speed counted for at lot-it won him the fights!
elvisalisellers wrote:All of Tyson's power and speed counted for nothing when he was in with the best of his era.
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Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:33 am
jak wrote:Eddie wrote:Its all pointless to surmise, they were the best of their respective eras, Tyson at his best had a great defence that gets overlooked, but he didn't face fighters of the class of Ali, Frazier, Norton, Foreman etc, I always felt he struggled against those who didn't fear him, who refused to be intimidated by him, all the afore mentioned fighters would most certainly been confident in facing him.
I think you nailed it perfectly. At one time I followed boxing fairly closely. So many times I felt Tyson had already won the fight before the first bell. You could just see it in his opponents eyes. Having lost their mental edge they just coudnt withstand that opening barrage Tyson delivered. Holyfield was the first guy I recall looking like he expected to win going in. He exuded confidence.
Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:37 am
Fairchild1171 wrote:Yes, Manny can beat Floyd...but Floyd doesn't want to risk losing that zero.
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