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Attention single men:beware of an app for women

Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:42 am

Since I'm engaged, I'm not too worried about this:

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/m ... -1.1383287

New mobile app Lulu lets women rate their men friends (and exes) in areas like sex and appearance

Founded by Alison Schwartz and Alexandra Chong, the app started with a conversation among women; some men find it offensive while others love it and have joined the complementary app LuluDude

By Molly Friedman / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Published: Wednesday, June 26, 2013, 4:22 PM

Updated: Thursday, June 27, 2013, 2:00 AM

Entry pages for mobile app Lulu, where women can rate and review their exes, friends and hookups.

If he tells you he’s great in the sack, why not consult with some previous customers and see if they were, well, satisfied.

The mobile app Lulu lets women do just that — giving ex-girlfriends, old hookups and female pals the power to anonymously rate any guy in their social network. And in the six months since its launch, Lulu has come to dominate sorority gab-fests, brunch banter and cocktail hours across the city, resulting in tears, jeers, and downright hysterics for the guys unwittingly reviewed.

Users can spill the beans on everything from a guy’s dancing skills to his manscaping habits, awarding points for sex drive or ambition or deflating scores with snarky hashtags including #SketchyCallLog, #OwnsCrocs and #Can’tBuildIkeaFurniture.

At first, spotting old flames from cherished relationships or cringeworthy sexcapades is pure fun. Lulu user Lana, who spoke on the condition that we mask her identity because she didn’t want to come across as a stalker, found it “hilarious” until she stumbled on an ex-boyfriend’s profile, which she claims was surprisingly accurate. “One girl called him cheap, which is pretty mean,” she says. “But I agreed with it.”

Alexandra Chong says the app she co-founded is 'not a man-bashing place.'

Lulu trawls Facebook to find guys — meaning an old college fling or a random dude from the office might appear beside a total stranger or even a bold-faced name. But star power doesn’t guarantee a high-ranking review: Cameron Winklevoss, the 31-year-old entrepreneur who ironically claims to have invented social media-based dating (as detailed in “The Social Network”), has a mediocre rating of 7 out of 10. According to a former hook-up, Winklevoss is a “man child” and “mama’s boy” who gives the “world’s worst massages” — earning a lackluster 6.5 for what he’s like between the sheets. Winklevoss did not respond to requests for comment for this piece.

Lulu founders Alexandra Chong and Alison Schwartz came up with their ladies-only, sex-centric version of Yelp.com over brunch with girlfriends. As conversation flowed from beauty tips to gynecological inquiries, Chong had a eureka moment. “It struck me how open and willing everyone was to share their experiences with guys and relationships,” she says. “If one guy had joined that table, the entire dynamic would have changed.”

Maintaining a women-only environment — regulated by barring male Facebook users from signing up — is the key to Lulu’s success. But being excluded from all this public, profane, and often embarrassing girl talk has riled up more than a few of the nearly 2 million men featured on Lulu.

Sean Glass, rated a 7.7, protests he is not the player he's made out to be on the app.

Sean Glass, the owner of Win Records, was taken aback when he saw his overall score of 7.7 — and that more than one hookup labeled him #F----dMeAndChuckedMe. “I can’t believe people say that,” says Glass, 28. “I’ve never f----- and chucked anybody. I’ve just had sex with girls without it turning into a relationship. And #GoneByMorning is not true. I’ve very rarely slept over at anyone’s apartment.”

When J.J. O’Brien, the 30-year-old founder of events company hem/\haus, heard that three women had reviewed his profile on Lulu, giving him an average rating of 9, he shared his critical success with his business school buds at a wedding in Hawaii. One of them did not take it well.

“One kid in my class was a model,” says O’Brien. “He was so pissed when he found out I had a higher rating than him. He was furious that there was nothing he could do about it.” The wedding party quickly turned into “four guys huddled around their phone looking at Lulu.”

Not all his friends were thrilled when J.J. O'Brien revealed that women gave him a 9 rating on Lulu.

Guys aren’t left out entirely — Chong created a complementary male-only app called LuluDude, where men can view their rating, add their own hashtags (listed in blue to distinguish from the pink ones added by women), update their status (Slaying Mad P---- or Bored of Booty Calls, for example), choose which Facebook photo appears as their Lulu profile pic, or simply delete their account altogether. But many guys are offended they have to jump through hoops to delete their profile in the first place.

“Why am I opting out of a system I never opted into?” asks 25-year-old Bushwick software engineer Chris Clouten — who claims he would dump any girl who reviewed him on Lulu. “What if I didn’t want to be involved at all? There’s not even a notification that I’m on it.”

Still, Clouten hasn’t nixed his account. “If people want to say bad things about me on the Internet anonymously, that says more about them than it does about me,” he says.

Men aren’t the only ones objecting to the objectification. After girls’ initial bursts of amusement, giggles, and casual research, some Lulu users have grown skeptical about all the site’s anonymous criticism. “Most girls just use it as a therapy session if they had a bad experience,” says Lana, who claims many users indirectly diss their fling’s manhood by withholding the #Big.Feet hashtag. “They’ll rip the guy apart and it makes them feel better.”

Michael Loccisano/Getty Images

Cameron Winklevoss, of “Social Network” fame, didn’t rack up big numbers when it came to his Lulu rating.

But Chong insists Lulu is about love not hate, alleging that many male critics haven’t even seen the app for themselves.

“This is not a man-bashing place,” says Chong, who claims more than 50% of guys who have their profiles removed sign up for LuluDude within a week. “Once they understand how Lulu works, they see how it can benefit them.”

Speaking of benefits, some girls say the app can be incredibly useful. Rachel, a 22-year-old college graduate from Nashville who wished to remain anonymous because she’s on the job hunt, took advantage of Lulu after hitting it off with a guy who contacted her on Facebook. “I ended up finding out that he had hooked up with somebody three days beforehand, and that he was already romantically involved with other people,” she says.

Lulu reviews of rower and Internet entrepreneur Cameron Winklevoss.

She also noticed the hashtag #StillLovesHisEx, which made her even more suspicious.

“One week later,” says Rachel, “he was in an official Facebook relationship with someone else.”

Who was the new girl?

“His ex.”

Lulu App Lets Women Rate Dates, Ex-Boyfriends Online: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ-vERAjnPw

Re: Attention single men:beware of an app for women

Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:24 am

Quite an interest for someone who is engaged. :smt017

Re: Attention single men:beware of an app for women

Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:16 am

Sounds trashy and mean-spirited. I'm guessing that none of the women who use it would appreciate it if they were the subject of something similar.

Re: Attention single men:beware of an app for women

Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:25 am

TJ wrote:Sounds trashy and mean-spirited. I'm guessing that none of the women who use it would appreciate it if they were the subject of something similar.


You'd be surprised what women talk about.
Did you ever notice they never go to the washroom alone, but always in a group?! There they gossip about men.

Re: Attention single men:beware of an app for women

Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:05 am

zolderopruiming1 wrote:
TJ wrote:Sounds trashy and mean-spirited. I'm guessing that none of the women who use it would appreciate it if they were the subject of something similar.


You'd be surprised what women talk about.
Did you ever notice they never go to the washroom alone, but always in a group?! There they gossip about men.

They're about as bad as us! :shock:

Re: Attention single men:beware of an app for women

Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:50 am

luckyjackson1 wrote:
zolderopruiming1 wrote:
TJ wrote:Sounds trashy and mean-spirited. I'm guessing that none of the women who use it would appreciate it if they were the subject of something similar.


You'd be surprised what women talk about.
Did you ever notice they never go to the washroom alone, but always in a group?! There they gossip about men.

They're about as bad as us! :shock:


Worse!