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James27 wrote:Lately I've been on a blues and jazz "trip", listening to people like Billie Holiday, Dinah Washington, Peggy Lee, Nina Simone, Sarah Vaughan, even some Marilyn Monroe.
Not to mention some of the great blues ladies like Bessie Smith or Etta James.
I find that I usually go for male singers and bands, apparently, but these ladies I love as well. Especially the lazy-morning-after-down-and-out style of song.
Some of my favorites: Black Coffee by Peggy Lee, Good Morning Heartache by Billie Holiday, I Want A Little Sugar In My Bowl by Nina Simone and I'm Through With Love by Marilyn Monroe.
Anyone else appreciates them?
Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:33 pm
James27 wrote:Lately I've been on a blues and jazz "trip", listening to people like Billie Holiday, Dinah Washington, Peggy Lee, Nina Simone, Sarah Vaughan, even some Marilyn Monroe.
Not to mention some of the great blues ladies like Bessie Smith or Etta James.
I find that I usually go for male singers and bands, apparently, but these ladies I love as well. Especially the lazy-morning-after-down-and-out style of song.
Some of my favorites: Black Coffee by Peggy Lee, Good Morning Heartache by Billie Holiday, I Want A Little Sugar In My Bowl by Nina Simone and I'm Through With Love by Marilyn Monroe.
Anyone else appreciates them?
Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:27 pm
poormadpeter wrote:James27 wrote:Lately I've been on a blues and jazz "trip", listening to people like Billie Holiday, Dinah Washington, Peggy Lee, Nina Simone, Sarah Vaughan, even some Marilyn Monroe.
Not to mention some of the great blues ladies like Bessie Smith or Etta James.
I find that I usually go for male singers and bands, apparently, but these ladies I love as well. Especially the lazy-morning-after-down-and-out style of song.
Some of my favorites: Black Coffee by Peggy Lee, Good Morning Heartache by Billie Holiday, I Want A Little Sugar In My Bowl by Nina Simone and I'm Through With Love by Marilyn Monroe.
Anyone else appreciates them?
The work by these ladies is quite remarkable and, in many cases, even more remarkable when they reached an age when their voices weren't in tip-top condition. Ella Fitzgerald's voice might have been as smooth as silk during the first years at Decca, but as she reached middle-age, her voice gained a rougher, edgier quality that was not there before and allowed her to really wail, mixing both gospel and soul sounds into her range. Check out this performance by Ella with Duke Ellington in 1966:
It's miles away from the studio recording of the same song the year before. It's worth adding that these concerts with Ellington (they toured together for a couple of years in the mid-1960s) are great experiences and a fair amount of them has been released, most notably The Stockholm Concert (1966) which is thoroughly recommended if you're interested in two jazz legends having a blast. As for Ella, much of her work for Pablo records from 1972 until the end of her life is forgotten because she often wasn't in wonderful voice, but Ella had such a brilliant imagination that she could work around that issue with ease, and her singing was often more inventive because of her vocal issues. Check out this version of The Man I Love from a 1974 Tv Special (filmed in a recording studio without an audience). Her voice has lost the smoothness of her previous versions, and her voice strains at times (it improved again the following year), but the arrangement is far more jazz-oriented - as is her whole Pablo cannon (check out the duets with guitarist Joe Pass as well).
Washington always had that rough edge, of course, and her final years were not her best, drifting into orchestral arrangments that didn't have the bluesy element of her best work. Simone's later work suffers from on-stage eccentricities and variable vocal quality, but she had a lovely run during the mid-1980s - the Hamburg 1983 concert (only available on bootleg) has possibly her best version of Sugar in my Bowl, and the filmed performance at Ronnie Scott's is rightfully highly praised, even if Simone is in surprisingly reflective mood. The Let It be Me album from 1987 is awful, however, although A Single Woman from 1992 (her final album) is really rather nice, even if it's atypical of most of her work. Years of ill health had taken its toll, but as this 1992 TV appearance shows, when she was healthy and happy she could still do wonderful work. It's also worth noting that there is a wonderful 9-disc CD set of Nina's RCA albums out at the moment at a very good price (or, at least, it is in the UK) of £25 or thereabouts.
Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:28 pm
r&b wrote:James27 wrote:Lately I've been on a blues and jazz "trip", listening to people like Billie Holiday, Dinah Washington, Peggy Lee, Nina Simone, Sarah Vaughan, even some Marilyn Monroe.
Not to mention some of the great blues ladies like Bessie Smith or Etta James.
I find that I usually go for male singers and bands, apparently, but these ladies I love as well. Especially the lazy-morning-after-down-and-out style of song.
Some of my favorites: Black Coffee by Peggy Lee, Good Morning Heartache by Billie Holiday, I Want A Little Sugar In My Bowl by Nina Simone and I'm Through With Love by Marilyn Monroe.
Anyone else appreciates them?
I love all those ladies you mentioned especially Dinah & Etta! Also give a listen to LaVern Baker. Check out the her version of Tomorrow Night.
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poormadpeter wrote:The Ella/Louis albums of 1956/7 are classics of their jazz-for-everyone kind.
The songbook series by Ella are difficult as they are the most well-known of her recordings, but often the most square as well, and rarely venture into jazz territory really. The Cole Porter songbook is her most famous album, but Buddy Bregman's arrangements are often really quite dull, and I feel the album only really comes alive during the trio cuts.
Ella's live albums are generally her best, and it's difficult to go wrong with Ella In Berlin, Ella In Hollywood, The Stockholm Concert and Montreux '75. As for studio albums, check out Whisper Not (if you can find it) or Fine And Mellow, as you like Holiday's version of the song - and it also features the arrangement of The Man I Love that I posted earlier. Don't be fooled by the hideous cover, it's a great album!
That TV show with Holiday is a wonderful show, and well worth finding in its complete form if you can. Here it is on youtube, but there is a better print floating around I think:
I can't confess to knowing Holiday's catalogue particularly well, but there is much to enjoy although some of the final albums can be a bit of a hard slog. The live set at the Stratford Festival in 1957 is a good listen though - even to a relatively non-fan such as myself.
Also, if you like jazz in general, keep a look out for Jazz At The Santa Monica Civic '72. This was a concert billed as Count Basie and Ella Fitzgerald, but Norman Granz, the organiser, surprised the audience by also inviting along a number of jazz greats such as Stan Getz, Oscar Peterson and Roy Eldridge and an impromptu jam session takes place. It's a wonderful concert, a really joyous event, with Ella singing clearly loving being back on stage after an absence for a while due to ill health. The first disc is the Basie band's set, the second is the jam session and Oscar Peterson's number, and the third is all Ella, with her set ranging from jazz classics to I Can't Stop Loving You, Whats Goin' On and You've Got A Friend. It's a show guaranteed to put a smile on your face. If only it had been filmed! The finale to the show (C Jam Blues) is below:
Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:56 pm
rjm wrote:I have a number of the great female "Classic Blues" and some jazz-oriented female artists in my collection. I've listened to them all, and it's great stuff. I always wonder, though, what it is about ME (not them), that keeps me from really digging them as I do (mostly male) R&B/Rock(/n'Roll) or gospel artists. I guess I'll never understand it: perhaps I'm letting the context intrude -- the whole musical-social context that had validated this music. I don't know. I wish I could get into it more - enjoy it more than I do, rather than just "appreciating" it.
I guess the answer is just to listen: keep listening, until you let yourself hear the music.
rjm
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