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Re: John F. Kennedy Would've Been 95 Today

Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:01 pm

I have read my share of books, watched the documentaries, and so forth. From both sides of the argument. And, at one time, I believed in the conspiracy theory. I didn't change my mind simply because a "name" wasn't provided. Good grief. A second man simply "got away" in that setting?

Many people believe in a conspiracy because they want to, or because it somehow romanticizes the tragic events of that day, or for whatever reason. I find it just as easy to believe only one man can shoot another from the building in which the man worked.

If others want to believe more than that, that's cool with me. I'm not about to criticize or belittle someone else for their beliefs.

Re: John F. Kennedy Would've Been 95 Today

Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:49 pm

KHoots wrote:I have read my share of books, watched the documentaries, and so forth.

Do share, as your comments indicate otherwise. You have definitely NOT read any of my recommended studies.

Re: John F. Kennedy Would've Been 95 Today

Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:28 am

Actually, Doc, I have. But sharing what I've seen or read is silly, because you wouldn't believe it, anyway. Besides, my guess is you've read only one side of the argument. And that's fine. It really doesn't matter one way or the other. I don't need to prove why I believe what I believe. The effort is cumulative.

Maybe you're right in what you believe. If so, great. But, maybe I am, too. We will never really know for sure.

Re: John F. Kennedy Would've Been 95 Today

Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:08 am

KHoots wrote:Actually, Doc, I have. But sharing what I've seen or read is silly, because you wouldn't believe it, anyway.

What an absurd response. Most will assume you have read or seen nothing.

Re: John F. Kennedy Would've Been 95 Today

Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:46 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:
KHoots wrote:Actually, Doc, I have. But sharing what I've seen or read is silly, because you wouldn't believe it, anyway.

What an absurd response. Most will assume you have read or seen nothing.


If that's the case, they would be wrong. It really is that simple. But, I really don't care what "most" (or even a few) assume. I'm not here to be combative.

I understand where President Kennedy is concerned you are very passionate, as you are about most topics. I appreciate that, and in most instances admire it. In those cases where it's obvious you won't change the mind(s) of readers, you tend to stomp your feet and take it as a personal affront. Life isn't meant to be so serious.

We can agree or disagree on whatever topic, and still be respectful.

Re: John F. Kennedy Would've Been 95 Today

Wed May 29, 2013 8:52 pm

Happy 96th, Mr. President.

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Re: John F. Kennedy Would've Been 95 Today

Wed May 29, 2013 10:38 pm

TCB-FAN wrote:Happy 96th, Mr. President.

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Nice portrait.

Re: John F. Kennedy Would've Been 95 Today

Wed May 29, 2013 10:46 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:
TCB-FAN wrote:Happy 96th, Mr. President.

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Nice portrait.



Mr.Rockwell was one of the greatest American painters of the 20th century. Here's another one of his classics....

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Re: John F. Kennedy Would've Been 95 Today

Wed May 29, 2013 11:53 pm

He is not a favorite, but the Kennedy portrait is excellent.

Re: John F. Kennedy Would've Been 95 Today

Thu May 30, 2013 12:07 am

I wonder how he would have responded when confronted with the many letters he wrote "raving" about Adolf Hitler...? He was a true fan of Nationalsocialism and all the great things Adolf Hitler and NSDAP had done for Germany during the 1930s and ´40s. According to Kennedy Adolf Hitler would og down in history as a great political leader.

Ref: «John F. Kennedy - Unter Deutschen. Reisetagbücher und Briefe 1937-45», by professor Oliver Lubrich

Sincerely
MB280E

Re: John F. Kennedy Would've Been 95 Today

Thu May 30, 2013 3:39 am

MB280E wrote:I wonder how he would have responded when confronted with the many letters he wrote "raving" about Adolf Hitler...? He was a true fan of Nationalsocialism and all the great things Adolf Hitler and NSDAP had done for Germany during the 1930s and ´40s. According to Kennedy Adolf Hitler would og down in history as a great political leader.

Ref: «John F. Kennedy - Unter Deutschen. Reisetagbücher und Briefe 1937-45», by professor Oliver Lubrich



Thanks.

Re: John F. Kennedy Would've Been 95 Today

Thu May 30, 2013 3:46 am

MB280E wrote:I wonder how he would have responded when confronted with the many letters he wrote "raving" about Adolf Hitler...? He was a true fan of Nationalsocialism and all the great things Adolf Hitler and NSDAP had done for Germany during the 1930s and ´40s. According to Kennedy Adolf Hitler would og down in history as a great political leader.

Ref: «John F. Kennedy - Unter Deutschen. Reisetagbücher und Briefe 1937-45», by professor Oliver Lubrich

Sincerely
MB280E




Adolf Hitler was brilliant and charismatic, just like Kennedy, except Hitler took the wrong path. That's just too bad.

Re: John F. Kennedy Would've Been 95 Today

Thu May 30, 2013 9:37 am

MB280E wrote:I wonder how he would have responded when confronted with the many letters he wrote "raving" about Adolf Hitler...? He was a true fan of Nationalsocialism and all the great things Adolf Hitler and NSDAP had done for Germany during the 1930s and ´40s. According to Kennedy Adolf Hitler would og down in history as a great political leader.

Ref: «John F. Kennedy - Unter Deutschen. Reisetagbücher und Briefe 1937-45», by professor Oliver Lubrich

Sincerely
MB280E


Taken out of context, and doesn't use precise quotations.

I agree that some of what he wrote at around 19 or 20 is stupid, but it has no bearing on the man whatsoever.

Still, he called Hitler a "dictator" who used effective propaganda. That part is never quoted.

His remarks about "Latins" are ignorant.

A "true fan" does not call the guy a "dictator" who effectively used "propaganda."

He liked the roads: no speed limit necessary. It's just an ignorant kid, unaware of the magnitude of what was going on. Those fancy schools he attended taught him nothing about history or the real world. And he later said so, after a crisis in office.

You ever said something as an adolescent you'd rather not have repeated? But sons of ambassadors kept "journals" when they traveled.

At least read the chapter, which is brief.

rjm

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