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Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:40 am

poormadpeter wrote:Johnny Hines is one of those forgotten silent comedians that precious little is written about, other than he started acting in films in the early 1910s and was relegated to small roles with the coming of sound, and disappeared from film around 1940. I only have three of his movies. The first of them is The Cub, from 1915, a comedy which Hines made when was just 20. Ten years later he made The Crackerjack, the least interesting of the three I have, although perfectly competent.

Conductor 1492, from 1923, is apparantly his best surviving film. He plays very much an everyman-type figure, but manages to mix aspects of Lloyd, keaton and Chaplin into one film. Rather than upload the whole film, I have chosen a very funny sequence from early on in the film, which sees Hines in a boarding house waiting his turn to use the bathroom one morning. It's brilliantly done, and very amusing, and I hope this 4-minute self-contained little sequence will be of interest to some of you.

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That is brilliant!!

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:23 pm

Can I just add that this is precisely the type of thread that makes the internet worthwhile. What an amazing series of posts. Outside of Elvis Presley, my main area of interest is cinema, especially what they call the 'Golden Age'. There seems to be so much to write about yet so little time. I can assure you I'll be back! (Where have I heard that before?).

poormadpeter, if it's not too late to make a suggestion, would you upload THE BLUE EAGLE (directed by John Ford), as I would be very interested to see it.

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Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:09 am

Stephen Butler wrote:Can I just add that this is precisely the type of thread that makes the internet worthwhile. What an amazing series of posts. Outside of Elvis Presley, my main area of interest is cinema, especially what they call the 'Golden Age'. There seems to be so much to write about yet so little time. I can assure you I'll be back! (Where have I heard that before?).

poormadpeter, if it's not too late to make a suggestion, would you upload THE BLUE EAGLE (directed by John Ford), as I would be very interested to see it.

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I will do this very soon. I was planning to do it last week, but my dad has become seriously ill and so my attention obviously got turned elsewhere. I'll make sure The Blue Eagle gets uploaded soon though. It's an exciting little film and well worth seeing, despite a chunk of missing footage replaced by title cards about 10 minutes into the film.

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:16 pm

Here is John Ford's The Blue Eagle. Please note the video is unlisted to avoid any copyright issues, so you need the link rather than do a search:

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Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:58 pm

Thank you very much for this. I hope your father recovers very soon. All the best.

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:17 am

Thank you.

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:27 am

there have been complaints from various people regarding my uploading of silent films onto youtube (the studios in question are clearly making so much money from them!). So, if anyone is after anything in particular, please let me know and we can sort something out privately

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Fri May 04, 2012 12:51 am

Well, it's been a while, but after having watched 4 silent versions of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde in 2 days for the phd, I thought I'd highlight one of the more interesting ones. This is the 1913 version starring the wonderfully named King Baggot in the role of Jekyll/Hyde. It manages to introduce a love interest for Hyde and still condense the story into 26 minutes!

The film is also historically important - this is the very first horror film made by Universal Studios who would, of course, specialise in the genre during the early 1930s and early 1940s.

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Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:20 pm

I saw this Harold Lloyd film for the first time yesterday and it reminded me of this thread. Sailor-Made-Man is the earliest of Lloyd's features and is a really a joy from start to finish, and one of those silent films that anyone can enjoy - whether a film buff or not. It is, rather surprisingly, complete on youtube:

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Sadly not on the tube is the other film I have watched (well, re-watched) this weekend, the wonderful drama Flesh and the Devil, starring John Gilbert and Lars Hanson with Greta Garbo as the woman who comes between them (yes, you have read that right!). Garbo is breathtaking in this film, the one which really cemented her popularity in America, and her onscreen romance with Gilbert was also taking place off-screen, and their love scenes together are some of the beautiful ever put on screen. I'm not sure that a more sensual movie was made before or since, and without a doubt there will be moments of genuine surprise at the conclusion of the film for those who haven't seen it before. A new ending was made at the demands of the studio, who were rather concerned at the connotations that the original ending had (I won't give anything away), and this new ending is now an extra on the american dvd release. Another one of the great silents that makes you forget you are watching a silent. If you get the chance to rent or buy the film, it is well worth it and is a good recommendation for people new to the silent film world.

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:31 pm

"The Unknown" is not available anymore on YT; it was a good movie. Thanks for sharing, poormadpeter :wink:

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:12 pm

JimmyCool wrote:"The Unknown" is not available anymore on YT; it was a good movie. Thanks for sharing, poormadpeter :wink:



Aww, that's sad. But at least WB have released it on DVD.

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:47 pm

Wow, I've been away so long, I'd forgotten about this thread. There are some good films you've posted here, poormadpeter. Thanks in particular for the Ford.

I know they aren't on youtube, but if anyone is interested I highly recommend seeking out Criterion's box-set of early Josef von Sternberg silents. I found them all very accessible and enjoyable, as well as being astounding works of art.

Underworld (1927) is often erroneously cited as the first gangster film. While it may not be the first, it is perhaps the first one that still manages to feel modern and relevant. It's kind of a prototype for Howard Hawks' Scarface, made 3 years later, but not released until 32. While it doesn't have as complex characters as the Hawks, it surpasses it visually (as anyone familiar with Sternberg would expect).

The Last Command (1928) is simply one of the best films I've ever seen. It's the story of a former Russian czarist general who is destroyed and winds up playing a russian general as a Hollywood extra. The film's characters are wonderfully complex, and the film is so visually stunning that it won't be forgotten. It's so good at visually communicating that I actually forget that it's a silent film sometimes.

Docks of New York (1928) is the story of a blue-collar dock worker on New York's waterfront. It's one of the most visually sumptuous films you'll ever see. A masterpiece in every respect.

I'm also a fan of Sternberg's sound films, but there is something so pure about his silent films, as if we are witnessing his abilities in their most concentrated form. For anyone interested in experiencing all silent cinema -pure film- has to offer, Sternberg would be my recommendation for a starting point.

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:50 pm

KingOfTheJungle wrote:Wow, I've been away so long, I'd forgotten about this thread. There are some good films you've posted here, poormadpeter. Thanks in particular for the Ford.

I know they aren't on youtube, but if anyone is interested I highly recommend seeking out Criterion's box-set of early Josef von Sternberg silents. I found them all very accessible and enjoyable, as well as being astounding works of art.

Underworld (1927) is often erroneously cited as the first gangster film. While it may not be the first, it is perhaps the first one that still manages to feel modern and relevant. It's kind of a prototype for Howard Hawks' Scarface, made 3 years later, but not released until 32. While it doesn't have as complex characters as the Hawks, it surpasses it visually (as anyone familiar with Sternberg would expect).

The Last Command (1928) is simply one of the best films I've ever seen. It's the story of a former Russian czarist general who is destroyed and winds up playing a russian general as a Hollywood extra. The film's characters are wonderfully complex, and the film is so visually stunning that it won't be forgotten. It's so good at visually communicating that I actually forget that it's a silent film sometimes.

Docks of New York (1928) is the story of a blue-collar dock worker on New York's waterfront. It's one of the most visually sumptuous films you'll ever see. A masterpiece in every respect.

I'm also a fan of Sternberg's sound films, but there is something so pure about his silent films, as if we are witnessing his abilities in their most concentrated form. For anyone interested in experiencing all silent cinema -pure film- has to offer, Sternberg would be my recommendation for a starting point.


is the Salvation Hunters included in that set as a bonus? It's a beautiful film.

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:53 pm

poormadpeter wrote:is the Salvation Hunters included in that set as a bonus? It's a beautiful film.


Unfortunately not. I hear some prominent Sternberg boosters were offering Criterion prints of both The Salvation Hunters and Thunderbolt for inclusion on the set, but that it was too expensive too restore all five films, and Thunderbolt considered too weak to justify inclusion.

Too bad, I have yet to see a Sternberg film I haven't liked. (Haven't seen Jet Pilot yet, though. lol)

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:41 pm

KingOfTheJungle wrote:
poormadpeter wrote:is the Salvation Hunters included in that set as a bonus? It's a beautiful film.


Unfortunately not. I hear some prominent Sternberg boosters were offering Criterion prints of both The Salvation Hunters and Thunderbolt for inclusion on the set, but that it was too expensive too restore all five films, and Thunderbolt considered too weak to justify inclusion.

Too bad, I have yet to see a Sternberg film I haven't liked. (Haven't seen Jet Pilot yet, though. lol)


Yikes, is Jet Pilot Sternberg?! My, he took a tumble!

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:01 am

It's been a while since we used this topic, but I thought it might be worth drawing attention to a couple of blog posts I've made on silent film recently that might be of interest to some of you.

The two links below are to what I thought were relatively inane posts about ten favourite films from the 1910s and 1920s, but actually caused a bit of a rumpus elsewhere because of my anti-D W Griffith comment.

http://silentmovieblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/09/218/
http://silentmovieblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/ten-favourite-films-of-the-1920s/

The following draws attention to some of the lost Lon Chaney films:

http://silentmovieblog.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/the-lost-and-rare-films-of-lon-chaney/

And this one is for a little light relief:

http://silentmovieblog.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/silent-film-ten-things-i-hate-about-you/

Finally, the British Film Institute are released on DVD and Blu-Ray (region 2) the restored version of the British silent film Underground this week. It's a great little film (even on the rather grubby print sent to me by a collector some years back), and so this should be a great release and recommended.

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:25 am

I enjoyed your 10 things I hate post. Looking fwd to reading your other posts!

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:57 pm

guidedbyvoices wrote:I enjoyed your 10 things I hate post. Looking fwd to reading your other posts!


That one got me a couple of emails from none-too-pleased academics!

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:32 am

What bout some child actress movies? How many of these stars films exist?
Marie Osborne
Zoe Rae
Lee sisters
Mary Mcclaster
Madge Evans
Virginia Corbin

Re: The Accessible Silent Film Thread

Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:39 am

ritchie valens wrote:What bout some child actress movies? How many of these stars films exist?
Marie Osborne
Zoe Rae
Lee sisters
Mary Mcclaster
Madge Evans
Virginia Corbin


I have copies of films by Baby Marie Osborne and Little Mary McAllister. Mary McAllister is in Do Children Count, which I uploaded to my youtube account a couple of years back, and can be found here:

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