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Guinness Book Wrong ?

Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:35 pm

I've found an anomaly in the Guinness chart book !

There are two Elvis 'hits' not listed !

In 1989, Elvis had two singles in the chart which they don't mention.

Green Green Grass of Home had a 3-week run peaking at No.76.

Mean Woman Blues had a 3-week run peaking at No.83.

The reason they don't mention them is that they restrict their listing to the Top 75 although the chart they use went to 100 !

This has also 'robbed' Elvis of 6 'chart weeks' !

Why have they done this ??

I've e-mailed their editor and I'll let you know what he says.

Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:53 pm

Great catch Colin!!!!! Let us know how it turns out........

Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:59 pm

Scatter wrote:Great catch Colin!!!!! Let us know how it turns out........

Will do.

Apparently, from 1983 to 1991 there was a UK singles chart with 100 places [and it was the one the book uses].

But the Guinness book ignores all the 76 to 100 positions !

That can't be right !

Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:56 am

Maybe it's because they're drinkin' Guiness!

Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:00 am

Good work Colin. Cheerio. Maurice.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:08 am

Tell `em Colin, but I guess, that could be no shadow on EP´s legacy in GB!

Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:08 pm

Well, the Guinness book editor, one David Roberts, has given me a prompt reply !

He says the singles chart has only ever been a Top 75.

The album chart was a Top 100 for a while, but has now reverted to 75 like the singles chart.

Needless to say, I have replied to tell him he is mistaken !

I can even quote the positions that some hits made in the 'non-existent' 76-100 area during the period 1983-1991 !

Will report back if he responds.

It isn't over yet !

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:57 pm

Thanks for TCEing, Colin!


Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:30 pm

David Roberts has responded thus:

Our chart consultant Dave McAleer responds with his reply:
The published Music Week chart has never been more than a Top 75.
There has been an unpublished Top 200 since the 1980s (available only to the music industry).
We only include chart information that was made available to the public.
Every other chart book follows our example.


David Roberts

Managing Editor: Guinness World Records

Book of British Hit Singles & Albums


I've suggested to them that if a chart with the Top 200 exists, why don't they use it ?

Does anyone know if the longer chart was published for the public ?

What about the Record Retailer, wasn't that available in newsagents ?

Brian ?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:37 pm

In my e-mail, I mentioned that I had bought every edition of the Guinness book from 1 to 18.

Hey - they sent me a "British Hit Singles" coffee mug to reward my loyalty !

I thought that was a nice gesture.