Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:12 pm
genesim wrote:Hey call me twisted, but Mrs. Romano always had more sex appeal to me. She didn't look it, but the angle was there if you ever sit down and watch the show.
Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:56 am
Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:27 am
Graceland Gardener wrote:I remember when that happened, changing themes,
and they quit shooting in a real house, on film
and switched to that new "house stage" on video
and the audience screamed everytime someone entered.
That was a major shark jump!
Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:44 am
Gregory Nolan Jr. wrote:The last year or two of Three's Company got rid of what was left of the studio audience and had strange lighting and way too much make-up on John Ritter. Talk about a show running on fumes. Don Knotts did surprisingly well in replacing what's-his-name, and so did that leggy blonde. But within a few years, it was flat again.
Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:47 am
Pete Dube wrote:
I still greatly enjoyed Cheers after Shelly Long left. She was starting to get annoying.
Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:07 am
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Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:20 pm
likethebike wrote:I thought Long brought a needed humanity to the show that separated it from other sitcoms.
Well........overacted pretentiousness doesn't equal humanity to me. Her portrayal was nearly cartoonish.
She is much greater talent than Alley.
Yes.........as her post-Cheers "career" clearly demonstrates
The whole key to the show it turned out was the female character. When Alley came in the whole show turned broad and cartoonish. Sam became a buffoon. In the early episodes he was thoughtful and street smart. The change may have been due to his lack of chemistry with Alley. It really killed his portrayal of the character. Loose and natural in the opening seasons, his readings are slow and uninspired in the later seasons. At times he plays Sam as if he is mentally retarded.
The comedy did become broader.......but not in a coarse sense. The writing was still first-rate. I hardly think Long was a loss for the show, or that her absense necessitated any major flux. It simply evolved........perhaps in a direction that you regret, but it's increasing popularity and critical praise signal that not many agree.
Incidentally, there's evidence that Long may have been forced out. She was not a favorite amongst the cast members. However, she was a great perfectionist so you can understand that.
In other words.......she was too like her character. Which explains her inability to get work anywhere else of consequence.
Long's character, like Alley's, was supposed to be somehwhat annoying. It gave added dimension to her relationship with Sam. These were two people who loved each other but drove each other crazy. She was a three dimensional character as were most of the cast. Perhaps to suit Alley's more limited talent there were no three dimensional characters left (save possibly Frasier) when the show ended.
Perhaps the key was that Alley's character was irritating, yet Alley still had the talent to play it while engendering affection from the audience. That is a prettty tough task that few have been able to pull off.
Which says that Alley had far more talent than you give her credit for......and that Long had far less, since she never pulled it off.Long's body of work is the best possible evidence that your inexplicable ability to find more than marginal talent in her is shared by few. There is a reason that she has been relegated to the thespian equivalent of a Russian Gulag.
Had the show ended after the five Diane years with Sam wishing Diane a good life as she walked out the door the show would have been perfect.
Well, we finally agree here........Long's walking out the door and into acting oblivion was indeed perfect for the show
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likethebike wrote:You're free to like any song/ movie/book you like. I'm not stopping you.
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