Off Topic Messages

Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:07 pm

Hey Jeff keep on rockin'



Oh great, lets start another revolution. Just remember, the way America began was first and foremost a separation from socialism and moving closer to freedom.

With your views in the past and the people you support, this may be a bit lost on you.

Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:31 pm

Hey gensimkins I WILL KEEP ROCKIN..... you see for I'm not just an arm chair fan...... I actually got off my ass last year and went to TWO Whoa!!!! Lisa Presley concerts and even got invited backstage to visit with Lisa Marie, she is a great person...... UNLIKE YOU!

YOUR an armchair Rock and Roll fan and Political comentator.... LOL.... YOU don't put you money where your mouth IS if you did really BELIEVE in Mr. Bushes war you would have signed up for it A LONG TIME AGO.... lol


WHOA.... MR. BIG Kiss fan...... you've seen Kiss all of TWO WHOLE times!!!!! lolololol :lol: :lol: :lol: I live out in the bum f.uck middle of knowhere Oklahoma... and I've seen KISS over 15 times since 1979.......

..... go back under your ROCK....


..... hey question for you POSER..... do you even collect ELVIS imports CDs or FTDs...... I mean after all this is a site called FOR ELVIS CD COLLECTORS.... FECC..... MY guess is probably not, because YOUR to CHEAP! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Elvis fan

Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:39 pm

JEFF d wrote:WHOA.... MR. BIG Kiss fan...... you've seen Kiss all of TWO WHOLE times!!!!! lolololol :lol: :lol: :lol:

WHHAAATTT!!! Man, tell me your joking!?! :!: :!: I've seen 'em more often than that- with and without the warpaint! I guess that means that we can speak with more authority on their live performances Jeff, huh? :D

Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:32 am

genesim wrote:Oh great, lets start another revolution. Just remember, the way America began was first and foremost a separation from socialism and moving closer to freedom.

Where on earth do you come up this nonsense? If America had a purely capitalist economy, it never would have pulled out of the Great Depression. It's been a long time since corporations had complete total free reign to do as they please. They're almost there, but not quite.

You're staying after class. :smt075 :lol:

Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:44 am

genesim wrote: Just remember, the way America began was first and foremost a separation from socialism and moving closer to freedom.

Huh? Genesim you need to clarify what you mean with your statement above. America began as a rejection of tyranny. King George was no socialist (did socialism even exist at that time?). He was, like most monarchs, a robber baron.

Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:13 am

I never once said that America wasn't socialist, but yes that was the origination of America, to go toward democracy where the people decide their fate as opposed to one deciding factor.

Be it a king, dictator...etc.

America does not rely on government, they rely on the will of the people.

So when I state socialism I am referring to the country being that and that ALONE.

My statement stands.


2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

I am speaking about an ideal. Would you really challenge that our forefathers goal was to shy away from this attitude?

Symantacs, plain and simple.

Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:57 am

genesim wrote:My statement stands ... Symantacs, plain and simple.

Plain and simple describes your contributions here. "Symantacs"? What in the hell is that? Dear Lord, you're as dumb as dirt, and yet you continue to post, embarassing yourself over and over again. Please stop. It's sad.


Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:42 pm

genesim wrote:
Just remember, the way America began was first and foremost a separation from socialism and moving closer to freedom.

I don't think the doctrine of socialism was even in its infancy in the late 18th century. Wasn't the founding of the US an attempt to form a liberal democracy??

Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:56 pm

Doc and co. you call me dumb as dirt?

First of all I haven't personally attacked anyone, so I don't understand this behavior. Typical.

As for my statement let me describe again.

Yes I do understand that socialism didn't exist. :lol:

The Boston Tea Party,

At the war's conclusion in 1763, King George III and his government looked to taxing the American colonies as a way of recouping their war costs. They were also looking for ways to reestablish control over the colonial governments that had become increasingly independent while the Crown was distracted by the war. Royal ineptitude compounded the problem. A series of actions including the Stamp Act (1765), the Townsend Acts (1767) and the Boston Massacre (1770) agitated the colonists, straining relations with the mother country. But it was the Crown's attempt to tax tea that spurred the colonists to action and laid the groundwork for the American Revolution.

More reading

According to Marxists (most notably Friedrich Engels), socialist models and ideas are said to be traceable to the dawn of human social history, being an inherent feature of human nature and early human social models.

You can call it something else, but yes it did indeed exist.

America's ideals were to not have a government based solely on this kind of control. Of course recent ventures have started to go that way, but in effect the bases for American freedom is based on the notion that government at most should be a nuisance and nothing more.

You guys disagree that is fine, but I for one think that America was formed by breaking away from these ideals. And focusing on the individual and fighting for one's prosperity.

P.S. The ideals of Socialism can be dated as far back as the ROMANS!

Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:31 am

genesim wrote:First of all I haven't personally attacked anyone, so I don't understand this behavior. Typical.

Yes, very Typical (for you) try it again gensim..... all I did was ask a very simple question..... apparently not simple enough for you though, then you think you can dump all over me calling me names lecturing me.... F You.... well try again simkins.... if you think your gonna start in with ME because you will have a tiger by the tail. :smt097

DUMB as Dirt--------> INDEED

Elvis fan

Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:17 am

Jeff the only way you know how to communicate with me is through personal attacks. I only respond after you start this behavior.

Now go check into a clinic mental boy.

Now at a theator near you. JERRY THE STALKER PART III. He will stop at nothing....he comes equipped with his Lisa Marie blow up doll and his trusty bar of soap. You are not are in fear of...CH CH CH HA HA HA HA....JERRY JERRY JERRY!!!!

Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:05 pm

genesim wrote:
I only respond after you start this behavior.

Yes, it's so hard to respond to something before it's happened, isn't it ?

Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:34 pm


Actually one can make personal attacks(which was what I was referring to) before anyone has said such. i.e. Jeff's behavior.

Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:07 pm

genesim wrote:First of all I haven't personally attacked anyone, so I don't understand this behavior. Typical.

Yea, right you never personally attack anyone on this board? ha.... just look at your post above. :roll:

Pathetic.... just like you are..... pathetic POS

...again all I did was ask you a very simple question, but apparently not simple enough for you.

Next time when you are shooting your mouth off constantly on this messageboard..... and IF I ask you a very simple question my advise to you would be to try to answere it and not to lecture me or to bawl me out, turd.

F***king poser POS

Elvis fan

Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:53 pm

Jerry I don't consider you "anyone". You are a clear exception to the rule.

Now get back to your ever so talented LMP and her classy lyrics. "Idiot". :lol:

Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:59 pm

I think you should get some History lessons... Socialism is not communism, just try to learn it. Sweden, France, UK, Germany, Norway, Netherlands, etc, all have had socialist governments. And maybe you want to argue about the freedom the Dutch have? :roll:

Furthermore, most of this countries rank in the top positions of developement.

Go abroad, it will open your eyes.

Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:01 am

When did I say Socialism was Communism??

Spanish_Eyes are you still working on that conservation theory?

Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:28 am

genesim wrote:Jerry I don't consider you "anyone". You are a clear exception to the rule. Idiot

Believe me your not anyone on this board I get enough support in private by diffent posters wondering what it the hell your problem is.

Anyone paying attention on this messageboard knows what your problem is.... your a wack job, and a POSER to boot. :lol: :lol: :lol:

...... are you following me??? Are you stalking me????? Why is it everytime I post then your just right there again...?

:smt110 <---genesim from the rawk grop Kissy

Like ROCK ON DUDE.... :lol: :lol:

Elvis fan

Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:43 am

Stalking you? I wasn't even debating with you originally. Take a look back, who was the first to post on this thread??

I rest my case STALKER.

He can't be stopped. JERRY IS THE>>>>>CH CH CH STALKER! SPLOOG SPLOOOGE....armed with his LMP pocket toy and his phantom PM's of support!!! Together with his Freddie Mercury love buttons and his completely stolen personality. JERRY IS THE>>>> CH CH CH STALKER!

He looks in the mirror and cradles himself to imaginary images of his sick and disturbing fantasies. OH LISA OH LISA. PLEASE LET ME HAVE YOU>>>>>>IF ONLY I HAD A REAL GIRLFRIEND INSTEAD OF HANNAH or ROSIE!!!!

This is your not criticize JJEEERRRRRYYYY THE >>>>CH CH CH STALKER!!

See it now at a message board near you.

Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:15 am

Your such a man of your word here Mark..... your word is all you've got, correct? And you don't break your word or your balls for anyone right? lolol :lol: :lol: :lol:

......"and now the end is near"..... good-bye everyone(again)..... plz write me at LVIS74@... if you miss me :smt022 ...... (deleted by Admin)...

..... guess what Mark..... nobody missed you.

In fact it's quite nice when you are gone.

Elvis fan

Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:21 am

Whats the matter did LMP turn you down again? Are you on yet another restraining order? How many feet is it this time?

Anybody wants to mail me they can at or

It really isn't a secret bonehead. :lol: :lol:

But be careful...please don't call me MARK.

Jerry, you sure are comical when you blow your top. Works everytime.

Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:54 am

haha! There is no need for a restraining order, in fact Lisa Presley gave me backstage passes to meet her in Kansas City! She was most gracious and she gave me a big hug after we were though talking and taking pictures! :wink: She's really a wonderfull person.... unlike you.

Your as f***ing Phoney as they come by boy, a Phoney POSER.

Really you should get out more..... even for a Kiss concert or three! I'm still pretty impressed with you getting to see Kiss in concert all of 2 times in your whole life! :lol:

Please keep this in mind MARK, it sure is nice when you are gone...... well your not ever really gone, even though when you say your never coming back..... just in lurking mode :smt031

Elvis fan

Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:13 pm

Jerry while you were drooling, did you show her your homemade blow up doll?

I am sure those backstage passes were hard to get. What were Lisa's combined sales...some where around 700,000? :lol: :lol: :lol:

How many of those were because of her daddy.

What a winner she is. Can't sing and can't write, but she sure can sponge of her dad's legacy. Unlike you most Elvis fans just don't give a crap and steer clear.

As for the supposed poser. No a poser is one that will run to any concert because of a shift in the wind. You said you weren't really that much of a KISS fan. No matter how many concerts of theirs I go to(never ran to see the Elvis in Concert uh duh that would make me a non fan right????) it still doesn't change that I have been a fan of theirs for over 30 years!

Gee it really means alot doesn't it if you go drooling about Lisa Marie Presley? What does that mean when you are just an OK fan with KISS?? :lol: :lol:

Perspective. Just goes to show where your priorities are. Did you ever see KISS backstage? I wonder if you did whether it would actually mean anything if you go having a heart attack over that hack LMP.

Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:28 pm

I rest my case folks genesime is a DUMBA.SS

When backed into a corner..... HE WANTS TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT!! lolol :lol: :lol:

Fact is YOU ARE A POSER.... :lol: Everyone knows that now as FACT

Fact I don't have $1000 dollars to just give to Kiss to get to go backstage to meet them...... NOW that is LOWCLASS actually charging your fans to get to meet them. That's just one of the reasons I have lost tremenous respect for Kiss.

Keep on changing the subject Mark..... when your is backed into the corner....

Gotta run dummy, got a busy day today!

Elvis fan

Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:32 pm

I never changed the subject? The subject is still you stalking away. The only subject change was me showing a pattern. You chased after KISS..then you chased after HEART...then you chase after LISA.

The difference is how deadly this one can be. Show her the blowup doll Jerry. Ask her to sign it. Lets see how many other backstage passes you will get. :lol: