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Sun Dec 25, 2005 2:28 am
Steve_M wrote:I hope our e-mails are being read:
P*ss Off Bush, go while you still got a brain cell left
Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:51 am
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Big Boss Man wrote:Since I never do anything illegal or committ any crimes....................
Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:43 am
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Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:06 am
Scatter wrote:Hey Jth.......how was the Kool Ade??
Expectation of privacy in ether-based communications?? Executive Branch wartime powers suddenly should be curtailed???Some of you have some case law to study.
The fact of the matter is, this sort of non-specific (untargeted) data collection has been going on for years. Under Carter. Reagan. Clinton.
All duly reviewed by the Judicial Branch. Nothing new here people.......except the sitting President,of course.
Anyone care to look at the extraordinary modes and mores of collecting info used by FDR, or Lincoln in wartime??
This tempest in a teapot is a straw man used to inflame the ill-informed.
If I didn't know better, I'd swear that Dean and Pelosi et al were far Right-Wing Republican moles who infiltrated the Democrat Party with the specific intent of sabotaging the Dem Party's bid to re-acquire power.
If they believe that this sort of demagoguery and historical revisionism is going to resonate with voters, they're addled.
Most people are sophisticated enough to see what they are trying to do. It should be an interesting election cycle coming up......
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Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:12 am
MauriceinIreland wrote:Americans really should be on their guard against the likes of G W Bush.
Oops, there's my Visa gone
Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:30 am
likethebike wrote:Because a good president took a bad action doesn't justify it. All presidents want more power than they have and even good ones have overstepped their authority from time to time or have tried. Roosevelt trying to stack the Supreme Court is a good example of an oversstep and the internment of Japanese Americans in prisoner camps is an example of abuse. It doesn't erase the good he did but you have to look at the full picture.
Get your warrants. If there's cause there you won't have a problem. 911 was in the planning stages for the better part of a decade. It is very unlikely that the time it takes to obtain a warrant (if it is a just warrant) will be the deciding factor in a terrorist attack. They have to play a balancing act, just like they do with other sorts of crime and the balance doesn't favor wiretapping or spying e-mails without a warrant. There is nothing wrong with asking a president to respect the rights he is allegedly defending.
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likethebike wrote:There's an excellent reason why there were no cries for Carter's/Clinton's impeachment on this issue. They did not engage in domestic spying on Americans. .
Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:55 pm
Scatter wrote:latest polls indicate a full 61% of those polled (and 51% of the Dems) support the President for his LEGAL and PRECEDENT PACKED use of his Constitutionally guaranteed powers.
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