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Do as they say - Not as they do.

Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:13 am

Doesn't this make you blue...?


Michael Moore: The filmmaker insists that corporations are evil and claims he doesn't invest in the stock market due to moral principle. But Moore's IRS forms show that over the past five years he has owned shares in such corporate giants as Halliburton, Merck, Pfizer, Sunoco, Tenet Healthcare, Ford, General Electric and McDonald's.

U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) The highest ranking Democrat in the United States and a staunch union supporter, Pelosi has received the Cesar Chavez Award from the United Farmworkers Union. But the $25 million Northern California vineyard she and her husband own is a non-union shop. Pelosi has also received more money from the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees union than any other member of Congress in recent election cycles. The Pelosis own a large stake in an exclusive hotel in Rutherford, Calif. It has more than 250 employees. But none of them are in a union. The Pelosis are also partners in a restaurant chain called Piatti, which has 900 employees. The chain is – that's right, a non-union shop.

Ralph Nader: He's another liberal who claims that unions are essential to protect worker rights. But when an editor of one of his publications tried to form a union to ameliorate miserable working conditions, the editor was fired and the locks changed on the office door.

Noam Chomsky: Noted Socialist who has described the Pentagon as "the most vile institution on the face of the earth" has lashed out against tax havens and trusts that benefit only the rich. But Chomsky has been paid millions of dollars by the Pentagon over the last 40 years, and he used a venerable law firm to set up his irrevocable trust to shield his assets from the IRS.

Al Franken: Host of (nearly defunct) Air America radio says conservatives are racist because they lack diversity and oppose affirmative action. But fewer than 1 percent of the people he has hired over the past 15 years have been African-American.

Ted Kennedy: The Massachusetts Democrat has fought for the estate tax and spoken out against tax shelters. But he has repeatedly benefited from an intricate web of trusts and private foundations that have shielded most of his family's fortune from the IRS. One Kennedy family trust wasn't even set up in the U.S., but in Fiji. Another family member, environmentalist Robert Kennedy Jr., has said that it is not moral to profit from natural resources. But he receives an annual check from the family's large holdings in the oil industry.

Barbra Streisand: She's talked about the necessity of unions to protect a "living wage." But she prefers to do her filming and postproduction work in Canada, where she can pay less than American union wages.

Bill and Hillary Clinton: They've spoken in favor of the estate tax, and in 2000 Bill vetoed a bill seeking to end it. But the Clintons have set up a contract trust that allows them to substantially reduce the amount of inheritance tax their estate will pay when they die. Hillary, for her part, has written and spoken extensively about the right of children to make major decisions regarding their own lives, including having abortions without parental notification. But she barred 13-year-old daughter Chelsea from getting her ears pierced and forbid the teen from watching MTV or HBO.

Billionaire Bush-basher George Soros: He says the wealthy should pay higher, more progressive tax rates. But he holds the bulk of his money in tax-free overseas accounts in Curacao, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands.

U.S. House Democrats: They say they want to withdraw from Iraq, but when it comes time to put their money where their mouths are, they vote overwhelmingly to stay the course. No guts, no glory.

Bottom line? These hypocrites want Americans to do as they say & not as they do. They claim to support affirmative action but don't practice it. They support higher taxes but set up complicated tax shelters to avoid paying them. They claim to be environmentalists but abandon their cause when it impinges on their own property rights. They claim to be morally opposed to continuing the war in Iraq, but are gutless when it comes time to defend their position with a vote.

Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:53 am

I think I'll have a glass of blue "kool aid" in celebration of this fine list Eagle :D

Of course it's Bush's fault that all of these people behave in the manner you listed.

Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:20 pm

The typical American double standard if you ask me...we have known about it for years and years...


Sincerely MB280E

Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:45 pm

Eagle -

That's politicians for you !

Kinda like our Labour MP's sending their kids to private schools and using private health-care.

Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:04 pm

Image

Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:41 pm

ColinB Wrote:

That's politicians for you !



No, thats liberals for you! Many of these are not politicians.


RKS

Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:03 pm

RKSNashville wrote:
No, thats liberals for you! Many of these are not politicians.


Worse...the one's that aren't politicians are nothing more than shills for the Democrats.

Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:11 pm

willpower!!!

Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:13 pm

If you examined anyone's life down to the minutest detail you would eventually find contradictions. It's really just silly game playing.

Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:37 pm

likethebike wrote:If you examined anyone's life down to the minutest detail you would eventually find contradictions.


ltb,
I agree 100%, but then again I don't.

Tom

Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:16 pm

BBC TV NEWS Reports on the delay in Washington announcing the 10 American soldiers killed in Iraq...on Thursday!

"Sophisticated roadside bombs", were the cause. It's thought the news was delayed so as not to embarrass George Bush after his recent speech!

Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:22 pm

Maurice,
It's amazing how the American press has sanitized some of the pic's and stories coming out of Iraq. A few months back there was a pic of a "wounded" American soldier all over the news with the caption that he was evacuated and recovered fully. Well, Ogrish.com showed all of the pics from that fire fight and the soldier shown was already, in fact, dead. The pic shown in the papers was from several yards away and was doctored to hide the fact that half of the soldiers face was blown off. The unretouched photo made it clear that the guy was dead.

Tom

Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:34 am

Yeah Tom........the American press is really propping the war effort.

Holy crap....... :roll:

Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:04 am

"US military reviews allegations of payments for Iraq coverage
Bangkok Post - 3 hours ago
Washington (dpa) - The US military said late Friday it offered Iraqi newspapers articles and that it was reviewing allegations that US funds are being used to pay for favourable news coverage in Iraq. "As ...
Senate looks into use of US propaganda in Iraq Financial Times
US military news stories were 'paid advertisements': senator Ninemsn
Voice of America - News24 - Media Matters for America - Reuters AlertNet - all 894 related »"

http://www.google.com See News

Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:17 am

MauriceinIreland wrote:"US military reviews allegations of payments for Iraq coverage
Bangkok Post - 3 hours ago
Washington (dpa) - The US military said late Friday it offered Iraqi newspapers articles and that it was reviewing allegations that US funds are being used to pay for favourable news coverage in Iraq. "As ...
Senate looks into use of US propaganda in Iraq Financial Times
US military news stories were 'paid advertisements': senator Ninemsn
Voice of America - News24 - Media Matters for America - Reuters AlertNet - all 894 related »"

http://www.google.com See News


Good Lord :roll: . The friggin' biggest non-story in the world. The articles are ALL FACTUALLY TRUE, not propoganda. This has gone on in every war since Hannibal. From Radio Free Europe to dropping leaflets out of airplanes.......

Do you think Al Jezeera is going to print the other side?? It's just too damn bad that we can't pay the BBC or CNN to give some balance to their reports. :lol:

Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:30 am

Yes true propaganda, Like the claims that the War was already won. Was it?

There are reports that Al Jezeera TV was to be bombed by the American air force ?

Do try and keep up.

Got to go shopping now. byeeee. :lol:

Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:40 am

MauriceinIreland wrote:Yes true propaganda, Like the claims that the War was already won. Was it?

Yes. Now it's the peace being secured. Do try to keep up.

There are reports that Al Jezeera TV was to be bombed by the American air force ?

Do try and keep up.

Got to go shopping now. byeeee. :lol:


Al Jezeera should be bombed. THAT is a propoganda tool no different than Tokyo Rose was. Blow it to hell.

Oh, and while you're out.......buy a clue :lol:

Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:12 pm

Scatter, bought YOU a clue.

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"The Irish Times" today.

At least the 100,000 Americans living here are well informed.

Yes Bomb the truth, that means the BBC, Uk's Channel 4 TV , RTE TV, Euro News TV and all the other TV station across the world covering the war in depth. The Depth NOT seen in the USA coverage.

Does Liberty look like Elvis, or are you imagining it. :lol:

Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:12 pm

Ahhhhhh MoCo........

While perusing the utter inanity of your reply (where you rely upon the propaganda peddlers to prop your cluelessness), I was reminded of 2 unalterable laws of aging.

1) The aged are increasingly unable to maintain the neurological ability to think clearly.......and

2) God, in His infinite mecy (even for atheists) has provided for the elderly a correspondingly increasing certainty that they still know what's going on. As the brain function degenerates, the false sense of certainty that they still have a clue becomes ever stronger as a defense mechanism to protect them from the truth.

I mean, really.......have you ever seen an oldster who was ever uncertain about anything?? Of course not. They are convinced that they are always right.

We who still have functioning neurons simply chuckle knowingly.

Therefore , your certainty in the face of contrary evidence is really a warning to you of how far you have slipped away mentally.

Judging by the advanced level of your cluelessness, I suspect you will soon be absolutely certain that Herbert Hoover is the current President of the U.S., and that your jockey shorts go on the outside of your trousers.

Better learn how to mamage those newfangled Velcro fasteners they put on adult diapers nowadays :wink: :lol:

Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:26 pm

Scatter, The truth stares you in the face, and you resort to your primitive mythology for support. Pathetic.

The many atheists here will be smiling, if not in stitches :lol:

Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:04 am

Scatter -

You wrote:
I mean, really.......have you ever seen an oldster who was ever uncertain about anything??
Of course not.
They are convinced that they are always right.


Well, there's that old UK guy who is sometimes uncertain about things.

At least I think he is.

Maybe not.

Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:10 am

Scatter wrote:2) God, in His infinite mecy ...

Did God make a new word?

She's such a joker!

DJC

Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:54 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
Scatter wrote:2) God, in His infinite mecy ...

Did God make a new word?

She's such a joker!

DJC


What's up Doc,

God is made of sugar and spice?

Then how come.................... spiders and mice? :lol:

Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:34 am

MauriceinIreland wrote:Scatter, The truth stares you in the face, and you resort to your primitive mythology for support. Pathetic.

The many atheists here will be smiling, if not in stitches :lol:


You sound so sure of yourself.......read my post. A bad sign indeed :wink:

Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:06 pm

Scatter wrote:
MauriceinIreland wrote:Scatter, The truth stares you in the face, and you resort to your primitive mythology for support. Pathetic.

The many atheists here will be smiling, if not in stitches :lol:


You sound so sure of yourself.......read my post. A bad sign indeed :wink:


Scatter, Uncertainty at my age would be a sign of lack of wisdom :lol:

The list of famous Agnostics and Atheists, contains some very illustrious names indeed, I'll leave you my child, to catch up with them. Start with Einstein, he got old too, and did not change his mind about the fairy stories for children. :lol: