Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:04 pm
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Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:11 am
Ok, Eddie didn't tap on the first record, cause dilbert dumbass said it is so.
Just like minkahed, you act as if ignorance is a virtue.
Well you can lead a horse to water...
The point was, and still is...ACE DID IT FIRST(abeit with the edge of his pick over the finger that tapped...oops..I mean hammered on! Jimi Hendrix and Brian May and many others of course did it. But neither did it to the extent that Ace did. And they certaintly didn't base several guitar solos off of it.
P.S. Jeff, in no way was Van Halen II as revolutionary as Eruption.
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:20 am
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Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:38 am
Kylan wrote:You guys are entertaining i hope you know! I side with Geno btw. he sent me some cool boots I still enjoy! hehehe give em hell man!
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:58 am
Face it, it doesn't matter what I say, you choose to stay ignorant.
Van Halen II being an album. DUH. Did I say any different?
I said Eruption as a solo is better the the Album as a WHOLE!
Tell me why the "pull of" part isn't named, then you can talk. As it stands until you adress this, then you are blowing a bunch of hot air.
P.S. As far as the Ace comment..ask the average joe about Robert Johnson compared to Eddie and gee who do you think would be more popular???? Circular logic at its best.
Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:15 am
A "hammer on" is when the finger frets a note in a quick "hammer down" of the fret before the strings starts ringing. But wait...a TAP is when you quickly TAP the string which is a combination of a Hammer On and Pull off! Why is this..because it hits a fret that the first hand could not possibly do while fretting another note higher on the neck.
Now do you guys get it? The fools that state that a "tap" is just a right handed hammer on are forgetting the basic concept that I just mentioned above. IDIOTS. THERE IS A "PULL OFF" INVOLVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:30 pm
minkahed wrote:by the way, take it easy gene, I never said I didn't agree with you, I said I believe we're both right, remember
Again, he doesn't NOT DO this on the original record version of ERUPTION, got it
Noone said he didn't tap on the first record dipshit, jus not on ERUPTION
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:55 pm
genesim wrote:So by your definition....where did Eddie do a "tapped" harmonic on the first record? Please tell me cause I am most curious.
So is the solo on Eruption not revolutionary? Especially the "right handed hammer on" part?
If so, wouldn't Ace doing it on the massively successful Alive II record and several solo performances be at least admirable?
You act as if he is NOTHING.
My point with Robert Johnston was that popularity doesn't mean a thing when it comes to being an innovator.
Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:24 pm
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:35 am
minkahed wrote:2 examples that come to mind are Runnin' With The Devil and I'm The One.
Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:46 am
genesim wrote:Ace may not have had the impact that Eddie had, but he certainly was a big influence on guitar players everywhere. That is why he is mentioned by name in the Cheap Trick and Weezer song.
Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:54 am
genesim wrote:minkahed wrote:2 examples that come to mind are Runnin' With The Devil and I'm The One.
WRONG! Neither has a tapped harmonic. The first tapped harmonics done by Eddie appeared on Van Halen II. Spanish Fly and Women in Love are two prominent examples. I have both books...
There is simply no such example on the first album.
and I also have my ears.
I think this is a pitiful excuse to back out of the corner you put yourself into.
Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:30 pm
Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:54 pm
genesim wrote:No those both aren't examples of tapped harmonics. STRAIGHT harmonics are a different story all together. Though I wasn't there, so anything is possible. Though I highly doubt it considering the phrase. Most people agree that he didn't do it till Van Halen II.
Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:00 pm
genesim wrote:Jeff D,
You are right again. Ooops. And so that makes Ace less relevant?
Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:18 am
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:42 am
Minkahed are not like most people.
Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:36 pm
Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:53 pm
genesim wrote:Not a follower...yeah right. You are the Einstein that thinks that Eddie doesn't "tap" because of a current trend.
Yet you have not even taken the time to reason it out yourself.
Still waiting on why the "pull off" isn't adressed. Do you read music, and which magazine did you pull the scalle progression description.
You are the Einstein
Still waiting on why the "pull off" isn't adressed.
which magazine did you pull the scalle progression description.
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