Off Topic Messages
Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:34 pm
I picked this dvd up yesterday and watched it last night and all I can say is WOW! This is a must -have for Dylan fans and musicologists. For those who don't want to shell out the bucks it will be airing on pbs tonight and tomorrow.
Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:55 pm
It is also being aired in the UK on BBC2 tonight and tomorrow. Should be a real treat.
Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:03 pm
Stephen Butler wrote:It is also being aired in the UK on BBC2 tonight and tomorrow. Should be a real treat.
I'm looking forward to this. Should be a great show. 9pm BBC2.
Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:45 pm
Saw both parts here in the USA on Monday and Tuesday nights
on public television.
A must even for non-fans.
The Elvis camp should take a cue from this show.
Scorcese was on Charlie Rose afterwards discussing how he tried to
add a narrative to the reams of film they threw his way.
I think he succeeded. It was also interesting to hear him discuss
his past documentaries and opinion of them. I, of course, was shouting
"Elvis On Tour!" at the screen...
Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:44 pm
EOT wasn't really Scorcese's. He was responsible for the montage segments. The actual producers were Pierre Adige and Robert Abel.
Regarding Dylan: He's arguably second only to Elvis in influence on the course of post war popular music. And that live sound he had in 1966 was way ahead of it's time! He was way out on the edge with those concerts and records of the period.
It's great to have the footage of Like A Rolling Stone where, before the start of the song the heckler calls him "Judas" and he responds with "I don't believe you. You're a liar!" then turns to the band and says "play f#*kin' loud!"
Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:57 pm
Yes, that last part was a key part of the narrative. That's
great. The booing of the fans (the folkies, anyway) made me
understand why he got so fed up...
And yes, I know Scorcese's work with EOT was limited, if not
one of his first jobs. I just liked hearing him comment on documentaries
and a lot of it applied to EOT, if accidentally.
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:19 am
The King's New Clothes syndrome. Bob Dylan - sounds like a scalextrix when he's whining on. What's all that about?
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:26 am
Tits McGhee wrote:The King's New Clothes syndrome. Bob Dylan - sounds like a scalextrix when he's whining on. What's all that about?
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:28 am
You know - a kid's motor racing game where the cars whiz around the track whining like Dylan... How does it feeeeeeeelllll?
Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:26 pm
Tits McGhee wrote:You know - a kid's motor racing game where the cars whiz around the track whining like Dylan... How does it feeeeeeeelllll?
Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:11 pm
Yup, the truth hurts, don't it? Surely only Willie Nelson comes anywhere near Dylan in the 'can't sing' stakes?
Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:24 am
First, music is far from that objective. We're full
of opinions here. You can do better than that. What do you think
of his switch to electricity and "pop" music? Was his real talent
just song-writing? Wait- I forgot: you know little more than
that "he can't sing." How original.
While I can find his singing grating at times, to dismiss Dylan's contributions wholesale like that says more about your own limitations than does it say anything bad about Dylan.
Finally, Elvis, by virtue of taking from "folk" sources of country &
western, gospel, and blues similarly was - and occasionally still is-
dismissed as someone vulgar and "not a real singer."
No irony in your comment, eh, Gene, I mean, Tits?
And I suppose Elvis had no business bothering with his "songs"?
P.S. You owe Willie Nelson an apology, too.
Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:48 am
Waffle, waffle, waffle, waffle... He wrote a few good songs, but he could NEVER sing. What do I think about him going electric? He should've stayed with gas.
Who is Gene?
Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:22 pm
How keen is your intellect...!
I'm not even a huge Dylan fan, but I'll save my breath.
As for the name, I thought you might be someone else. Forget it.
Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:44 pm
Tits McGhee wrote:Waffle, waffle, waffle, waffle... He wrote a few good songs, but he could NEVER sing. What do I think about him going electric? He should've stayed with gas.
Who is Gene?
I disagree. He was never a pretty singer, but he did used to be able to do some nice phrasing and tonal breath control, and could swoop and dive with the best of them.
These days though I would agree.
Listen to Blood on the Tracks or Desire for proof that once upon a time, Dylan could
Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:41 pm
Gregory Nolan Jr. wrote:How keen is your intellect...!
Obviously keener than yours. I know a bad singer when I hear one, and Dylan is...well, I'm not going to waste my breath. (I can be childish too, you see.)
Oh, and I don't owe Willie Nelson an apology. He owes me one for turning 'Always On My Mind' into a comedy song.
Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:43 pm
"Obviously"? Where's the evidence of that? Or did you miss the point
when I told you its inherently subjective?
If you don't like him or anyone, say it politely or just find another thread. It's off-topic anyway.
And like it or not, Nelson has made his mark and except for the Johnny Carson skit version of that song, is no joke.
You don't have to be obnoxious.
Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:47 pm
Gregory Nolan Jr. wrote:"Obviously"? Where's the evidence of that? Or did you miss the point
when I told you it's inherently subjective?
If you don't like him, just find another thread. It's off-topic anyway.
You don't have to be obnoxious.
"Inherently subjective"? Have you swallowed a dictionary or something? And who's "obnoxious"? I'm just expressing an opinion - like you have done on many threads before. Or does only your opinion count?
Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:09 pm
What? Big words scare you, Tits?
You don't have to piss all over people who like things you don't.
Don't try to turn that around. You're the one going on and on.
Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:14 pm
Are you stalking me? I know loads of big words. I once knew the name of that railway station in Wales, but I've forgotten it now. It was something like - Peoplewhothinktheyare cleverliketotryandimpressbyusinguncommonlongwordswhenshorteronesareperfectlyadequate.
No dna no gniog eno eht er'uoy. dnuora taht nrut ot yrt t'nod.
Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:23 pm
First you come on here and and diss Dylan, a wordsmith
if there was ever one, and now you're laying that nonsense on me?
Get a clue.
If you have nothing to add to the discussion of the new Dylan film,
Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:29 pm
Can we meet for coffee?
Dylan a wordsmith? He couldn't even be a locksmith.
Any respect I might have had for the man has now been dissipated (!!!!) because of you. You big bully, you have sullied (!!!!!) my love of Happy Bob the Singing Wordsmith.
Lots of love (and hugs).
Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:30 pm
Tits McGhee wrote: He wrote a few good songs, but he could NEVER sing.
Don't be a boob Tits.
Dylan wrote a lot more than just 'a few good songs.'
Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:32 pm
Hey Pete - butt out! Me and the Gregster are rappin'. We've got a special bond.
Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:36 pm
Alright, I'm getting tightly wound over a guy I'm just a marginal fan of.
Welcome aboard, Tits!
Now show us some!