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Rolling Stones... at it again!

Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:59 pm

Those ol guys are back on the road again! Is anyone here going to any of the shows?

JEFF d
Elvis fan

Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:39 am

Their combined age is what now? 285 years?

Oh well, old entertainers have to eat too.

I was never much of a Jagger fan, but here's to hoping whoever attends their shows has a good time.

Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:42 am

hey, did you guys know that Sirius satelitte radio now has a ROLLING STONES 24 hour radio station???

copying the KING...!? :roll:

I caught their show back in '89 on the STEEL WHEELS tour and I thought it was really good.

I still dig 'em too...

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Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:53 am

Are you guys trying to say that the Rolling Stones are better than Elvis!

What is wrong with you people!

Nah, just teasin. Just wanna keep up the tradition that happens whenever there is a thread discussing other entertainers... :lol:

Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:09 am

Their last tour was great. If one can get past the carnival atmosphere that can surround the shows, looking closely at the performances shows a band that is playing as well as they ever did.

**Sidenote: Now if only Keith would stick to his word and release some material from the archives!

Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:04 am

Its really wierd people seem to be just really hot or cold on the Stones.... so how do they sell out those 60 and 80 thousand seat stadiums?? I got a ticket to go see them at Little Rock, but the concert isn't even untill March 2006!! :shock: I've seen them a number of times before they have allways been real good.

JEFF d
Elvis fan

Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:20 pm

I hear Motley Crue is going to open on a couple of shows. That would be alot of fun.

Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:10 am

The Stones blow the Beatles away......greatest rock band in history

Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:16 am

genesim wrote:I hear Motley Crue is going to open on a couple of shows. That would be alot of fun.


Motley Crue?

really?

somehow I get the feeling this line up is a bit mismatched... :?

And I don't mean that in a bad way!

Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:23 am

How do you figure, both play very good music...and both are way past their prime. :lol: :wink:

Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:48 am

They again have quite a stellar number of groups opening up for them! Motley are opeing up for them in Seattle and Portland... Metallica are opening up for them in San Fran... Black Eyed Peas opened up the Boston shows... Joss Stone is opeining some shows, and get this Merle Haggard is opening up for them in Dallas! All of these acts would be great to see with them.... they haven't told who the opening band is going to be for Little Rock yet. I hope its someone I like... LMP maybe! :D :D I've seen Bryan Adams, Sheryl Crow and Jonny Lang open for them before. Its always quite an experience when you get to see the Rolling Stones!

JEFF d
Elvis fan

Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:40 pm

carolynlm wrote:Everyone I know who has been to a Stones concert here lately, have had their tickets bought for them by their children or grandchildren......it's been a case of 'Lets get Mum/Dad a ticket before they die'.... :lol:


Well, that their secret. Everyone thinks when The Stones announce to tour, this will be probably their last. NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ive got respect, regarding to the lives they lived and still performing on massive tours. Name me one other band who can accomplish this. No one. Not even the overrated U2.

Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:45 pm

Minkahed after looking at Jeff's list it is Motley that fits the most! I think of the Rolling Stones as a down and dirty Rock N Roll Band with good riffs at a steady mid tempo, as it should be.

Metallica and Black Eyed Peas??? Can you imagine the stark difference!

I will say they have variety though.

Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:36 am

genesim wrote:Minkahed after looking at Jeff's list it is Motley that fits the most! I think of the Rolling Stones as a down and dirty Rock N Roll Band with good riffs at a steady mid tempo, as it should be.

Metallica and Black Eyed Peas??? Can you imagine the stark difference!

I will say they have variety though.


I know and I agree with you.

I was jus going on the fact that the line up might be a lil mismatched because , I believe, Motley is quite a bit "heavier" in terms of the overall Rock N Roll sound and in theatrical presentation.

now, I love and appreciate "all kinds" of music, especially the Stones, but going from, say "Shout At The Devil, "Kickstart My Heart, "Dr. Feelgood" to "Start Me Up", "Angie", "Sympathy For The Devil" etc etc... might be a bit of a drag.

I'll give you an example.

Back in '99, I caught Bad Company performing in Winston-Salem, NC. June 23 to be exact. well, imagine my surprise when I found out David Lee Roth was the opening act. I was thrilled.

Well, out comes Roth jus bashin' out "Hot For Teacher", "Yankee Rose", u get my point...

by the time Bad Co. came out, I was exhausted and was already ready to leave. my Uncle, who came with me and grew up listening to Bad Co. in the 70's agreed and thought that, by the 3rd CO. song, he was ready to bail as well.

our sentiments were also felt by the majority of youngsters, lots of females 8) , who were following us out into the parking lot... :P

Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:39 am

Point well taken......although you gotta admit that the Stones have a bit more clout then that. They have such an arsenal, I doubt seriously that they are gonna sit back and be upstaged. As much as I like Crue, there is simply no match to the more then abundent rockers.

Though I will say that they should cut down their show a bit. The Circus type tour they have would not translate well to a Stones audience.

p.s. Roth kicks ass..Van Halen are not the same without him and never will be!

Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:36 pm

JEFF d wrote:They again have quite a stellar number of groups opening up for them! Motley are opeing up for them in Seattle and Portland... Metallica are opening up for them in San Fran... Black Eyed Peas opened up the Boston shows... Joss Stone is opeining some shows, and get this Merle Haggard is opening up for them in Dallas! All of these acts would be great to see with them.... they haven't told who the opening band is going to be for Little Rock yet. I hope its someone I like... LMP maybe! :D :D I've seen Bryan Adams, Sheryl Crow and Jonny Lang open for them before. Its always quite an experience when you get to see the Rolling Stones!

JEFF d
Elvis fan


Rolling Stones is a great live band. The last time they played Helsinki in 2003 ZZ Top opened for them. Fantastic show!

Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:26 pm

Marko wrote:
JEFF d wrote:They again have quite a stellar number of groups opening up for them! Motley are opeing up for them in Seattle and Portland... Metallica are opening up for them in San Fran... Black Eyed Peas opened up the Boston shows... Joss Stone is opeining some shows, and get this Merle Haggard is opening up for them in Dallas! All of these acts would be great to see with them.... they haven't told who the opening band is going to be for Little Rock yet. I hope its someone I like... LMP maybe! :D :D I've seen Bryan Adams, Sheryl Crow and Jonny Lang open for them before. Its always quite an experience when you get to see the Rolling Stones!

JEFF d
Elvis fan


Rolling Stones is a great live band. The last time they played Helsinki in 2003 ZZ Top opened for them. Fantastic show!


That is cool, I love ZZ Top... I've actually lost track of how many time I have seen them live at this point! lol :lol: And they are coming and playing at a Casino that is just north of me in September... I need to try to get my ticket this week. I have also heard a rumor before that Keith actually wanted or tried to get Billy Gibbons to join the Stones when Mick Taylor left in the mid 70s.

JEFF d
Elvis fan

Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:52 pm

That's where the Rolling Stones are at.

When they played Germany, guess who opened for them ? AC/DC. AC/DC were prepared to play the role of an opening band! Amazing.

Great write up somewhere on the last concert they did, it said from a distance they look like 60 year olds strutting around, but when you get up close they actually look 90.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:45 am

You have to keep in mind that these bands like Metallica and Motley Crue... they won't be having their whole stage set up as they usually do. They will come out and play like a 45 or 50 minute set on the Stones stage, not utilizing all of the Stones lights and such. The crowd won't be worn out after seeing any of these metal bands. I would like to see Metallica open for them that would be freaking awesome! Motley... I can take or leave.

JEFF d
Elvis fan

Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:47 am

The problem is that Metallica are a bunch of sellouts. At least Motley still ROCK! Their 3 albums as well as the cover of Street Fighting Man recently totally kick ass.

Generation Swine and New Tatoo I would put right in line with their heavier material off of Dr. Feelgood and Shout at The Devil.

There are the only hair band of the 80's that have still survived.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:54 am

What's that got to do with opening up for the Stones? :roll: It's still who I would rather see between the two, I've seen them both and prefer Metallica.

JEFF d
Elvis fan

Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:04 am

I like Metallica before, but after Cliff Burton they really are sell outs. Each to their own.

Still better live band or not, it doesn't matter to me. I hear Guns N Roses had the same problem. Sometimes a band has trouble capturing a tight show because they take chances as opposed to having riffs that are specifically timed. Playing Metallica, you gotta know how that works, so I could see it translating better.

The songs are what are important, and Metallica doesn't own one song that means anything more then great head banging. It certaintly doesn't speak to me. They lost their balls long ago.

Also for the record, the song Merry Go Round was ripped off of Motley Crue and reused for the main riff in Call Of The Ktulu.

Motley has stayed progressive and kept their heart...Metallica is just a bunch of hot air anymore. They certaintly don't stand for Rock N Roll anymore. Just my opinion.

Keep in mind you are speaking to a former huge fan of Metallica. They have been a bitter dissapointment.

p.s. So you didn't like Motley Live? Which tour did you see? I myself have seen neither. No it is not me being a "poser" it is just the fact that I don't go to many concerts period.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:24 am

genesim wrote:I like Metallica before, but after Cliff Burton they really are sell outs. Each to their own.

Still better live band or not, it doesn't matter to me. I hear Guns N Roses had the same problem. Sometimes a band has trouble capturing a tight show because they take chances as opposed to having riffs that are specifically timed. Playing Metallica, you gotta know how that works, so I could see it translating better.

The songs are what are important, and Metallica doesn't own one song that means anything more then great head banging. It certaintly doesn't speak to me. They lost their balls long ago.

Also for the record, the song Merry Go Round was ripped off of Motley Crue and reused for the main riff in Call Of The Ktulu.

Motley has stayed progressive and kept their heart...Metallica is just a bunch of hot air anymore. They certaintly don't stand for Rock N Roll anymore. Just my opinion.

Keep in mind you are speaking to a former huge fan of Metallica. They have been a bitter dissapointment.

p.s. So you didn't like Motley Live? Which tour did you see? I myself have seen neither. No it is not me being a "poser" it is just the fact that I don't go to many concerts period.


I've seen Motley on the Girls Girls Girls and Dr Feelgood tours also the tour when they had that different lead singer and also saw Vince Neil open for Van Halen(he was even more horrible by himself)! Motley are loud and obnoxious so yea I can see how you would like them. lol :lol: :lol: To me they are a studio band, cause they really are not that sound musicly in concert. Metallica I saw twice on the "Black" tour or what ever they called it, very tight. Everyone has been screaming "sellout" from Metallica from the begining... so I have no arguement with that. The fans that liked them in the early days screamed sell out when the released their major label albums... the fans that liked the first couple of albums screamed sell out when they hooked up with Bob Rock... the fans that like the Bob Rock produced albums screamed sell out when Metallica did their more alternative sounding Load albums... so its all BS to me, like any band I take what I want from them and leave the rest. Metallica is certainly not a real favorite of mine, I do prefer them over Motley Crue though. I will say that Shout At The Devil is the saving grace for me concerning MC, that CD is great from start to finish(in an 80s metal way).

I really don't hate Motley... they have some great songs, I think my biggest problem with them is Vince. I just don't think he is a very good singer. That's just a matter of taste, some love him, and that's fine with me. :)

JEFF d
Elvis fan

Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:15 am

JEFF d wrote:
genesim wrote:I like Metallica before, but after Cliff Burton they really are sell outs. Each to their own.

Still better live band or not, it doesn't matter to me. I hear Guns N Roses had the same problem. Sometimes a band has trouble capturing a tight show because they take chances as opposed to having riffs that are specifically timed. Playing Metallica, you gotta know how that works, so I could see it translating better.

The songs are what are important, and Metallica doesn't own one song that means anything more then great head banging. It certaintly doesn't speak to me. They lost their balls long ago.

Also for the record, the song Merry Go Round was ripped off of Motley Crue and reused for the main riff in Call Of The Ktulu.

Motley has stayed progressive and kept their heart...Metallica is just a bunch of hot air anymore. They certaintly don't stand for Rock N Roll anymore. Just my opinion.

Keep in mind you are speaking to a former huge fan of Metallica. They have been a bitter dissapointment.

p.s. So you didn't like Motley Live? Which tour did you see? I myself have seen neither. No it is not me being a "poser" it is just the fact that I don't go to many concerts period.


I've seen Motley on the Girls Girls Girls and Dr Feelgood tours also the tour when they had that different lead singer and also saw Vince Neil open for Van Halen(he was even more horrible by himself)! Motley are loud and obnoxious so yea I can see how you would like them. lol :lol: :lol: To me they are a studio band, cause they really are not that sound musicly in concert. Metallica I saw twice on the "Black" tour or what ever they called it, very tight. Everyone has been screaming "sellout" from Metallica from the begining... so I have no arguement with that. The fans that liked them in the early days screamed sell out when the released their major label albums... the fans that liked the first couple of albums screamed sell out when they hooked up with Bob Rock... the fans that like the Bob Rock produced albums screamed sell out when Metallica did their more alternative sounding Load albums... so its all BS to me, like any band I take what I want from them and leave the rest. Metallica is certainly not a real favorite of mine, I do prefer them over Motley Crue though. I will say that Shout At The Devil is the saving grace for me concerning MC, that CD is great from start to finish(in an 80s metal way).

I really don't hate Motley... they have some great songs, I think my biggest problem with them is Vince. I just don't think he is a very good singer. That's just a matter of taste, some love him, and that's fine with me. :)

JEFF d
Elvis fan


hey Jeff, sounds like you and me saw the Crue at the same stages in their (awesome) career...

I also saw Vince open for Van Hagar in '93, (I thought Vince was real good...) then back to the Crue in '94 with John Corabi (real bad, at least "LIVE") and again when Vince rejoined in '97 with Generation Swine, which, IMHO, was/is totally underrated and great record.

I will say, that I have been to over 100 "LIVE" concerts in the last 20 years, and, as far as 80's metal, Hair bands, whatever they wanna **** call it, I have never seen a more animalistic, enthusiastic, incredibly horny female, over the top, balls to the wall "LIVE" show than MOTLEY CRUE!!!

The one and only exception... the one and only CLASSIC VAN HALEN fronted by DIAMOND DAVE!!!

everytime I go see the Crue "LIVE", it's like I'm 15 all over again...and that's definetely Kool by me.

indesrcibable, to say the least...

Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:22 am

Minkahed, good to hear, I can only imagine.

No Jeff...the Black album was truly a sell out. Nothing rocked, and I hated that piece of crap. How can you go from singing cool songs about Death to.....Bad dreams???

I'll take Master Of Puppets anyday to the "LOAD" of fodder they make now. Unforgiven II...PLEASE!

Hey but its cool. We all have our favorites.