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Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:15 am

Stephen.....is it not better to be a big fish in a small pond.. rather than a small fish in a big pond? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:13 am

Kristian:

I don't think it is about saving Souness' ass. It's more about saving Michael Owen's ass, really. Owen cannot hope to get picked for the World Cup unless he gets first team football and, at present, the only place he is likely to get a regular game is at Newcastle. If Souness is going to get sacked, that will happen regardless of whether he signs Owen or not. You are right on that point.

Rusty:

I agree with you. But you don't have to convince me, you have to convince Michael Owen.

As I said earlier, Owen has made the situation very difficult for himself. He couldn't possibly sign for Man Utd because he would be in the same position he is in at Real Madrid. I think he would have signed for Everton if they had made it into the Champions League. For Liverpool to sign him now would make Rafa Benitez look a fool, and Newcastle have made a bid that no-one will want to match under those circumstances. But Owen will not be able to join on loan, yet this in itself means that he will not want to sign for them on a permanent deal.

Thank God Freddy Shepherd has done something right for a change and said, to quote a certain famous song, It's Now Or Never. Owen has until the end of today to decide if he will sign. If not, it is better to draw a line under it and look for someone else before the transfer window closes on August 31.

Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:32 pm

Stephen Butler wrote:Owen cannot hope to get picked for the World Cup unless he gets first team football.

I think he would have signed for Everton if they had made it into the Champions League.



Can't agree with that, Stephen. Even if Owen spends the season warming the subs bench, he will still start for England in the World Cup. Defoe isn't strong enough on an international level yet. A great player, yes, but he's still to proove himself I feel.

Owen signing Everton?! That would be something. He supported us as a kid but we can't afford him and he wouldn't want to join the club.

Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:55 am

Andrew:

Why, then, has Owen repeatedly stated that he needs to be playing football in a World Cup year? Because he thinks he'll be automatically picked anyway? I'm not so sure - I think there would be an outcry if Owen was picked for the World Cup squad having spent almost a year on the subs' bench.

As for Everton - I feel sure Owen would have been tempted to sign if they made it into the Champions League. Bill Kenwright would have found the cash from somewhere - behind the sofa, jam-jars in the kitchen - anywhere, just to land Owen, as Freddy Shepherd seems to have done.

And typically, Newcastle make a bad situation worse by signing a striker who by Souness' own admission is not a prolific scorer, while Michael Owen continues to enjoy the Spanish sun. And all this before we get a good thumping from Man Utd tomorrow.

By the way, check this from the BBC News website regarding Michael Owen's England situation, particularly Sven's comments:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/4191998.stm

Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:36 pm

Once again....Newcastle..Nil points..watch your back Souness....I predict the 29th Aug will be your last day....sorry :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:45 pm

Rusty,

Who will Newcastle replace Souness with?? All the good premiership managers are taken!

Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:05 am

Why not re-assign good ol' Robson? :wink:

Give Souness a few more matches, and if things pick up - let him stay with the job.

If not - prepare Alan Shearer to take the wheel..?

Looks like Chelsea and Man U already have set the standard for the rest of the bunch, both teams conceived no goals against them, and looking strong forward...

Br
Kristian

Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:56 am

Kristian Hjelmaas wrote:
Looks like Chelsea and Man U already have set the standard for the rest of the bunch, both teams conceived no goals against them, and looking strong forward...

Br
Kristian


Chelsea looked quite flat against a 10-man Spurs I thought, and were actually outplayed for parts of the game. It had the makings of an interesting clash, but the referee ruined that with what seemed a pretty harsh sending off less than 30 mins in.

Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:00 am

TJ wrote:
Kristian Hjelmaas wrote:
Looks like Chelsea and Man U already have set the standard for the rest of the bunch, both teams conceived no goals against them, and looking strong forward...

Br
Kristian


Chelsea looked quite flat against a 10-man Spurs I thought, and were actually outplayed for parts of the game. It had the makings of an interesting clash, but the referee ruined that with what seemed a pretty harsh sending off less than 30 mins in.


Yes, Chelski was lucky on that decision! But I guess that's the luck a winning team gets during a good run...

They weren't great against Wigan, either. But typically they won it in extra time...

Br
Kristian

Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:07 pm

Rusty:

Newcastle don't have nil points, they have one point. What they have is nil goals! They are going all out to sign Owen, the desperate need is there for all to see. Owen apparently arrives on Tyneside today for talks - ominously, however, he will also be talking to Liverpool.

The mark of a great side is not always the impressive games where they win by a cricket score, but those games where they play badly and still manage to claim the points. Man Utd did this yesterday, and Chelsea have done it in all but one of their games. What it shows is luck, as well as talent, is on their side.

Newcastle, much as I love them, don't win anything because they always fall to pieces in key games. We've been over this before, so I don't need to again, but I am beginning to wonder whether a change of manager might not be a good idea. Certainly the preferred option would be that the "sack the board" song you hear at all the home games so far becomes a reality.

But it is also down to key players. The manager cannot help what goes on on the pitch if players are too petulant to respond. Of this current shower, perhaps the crowd should be shouting "sack Ameobi, Jenas, Dyer, Bramble, Bowyer, Boumsong and Babayaro!" I, along with any supporter, would rather see them replaced by players of minimal talent giving their all than a bunch of lazy multi-millionaires getting paid for being spoilt little children.

Still, and I'm sorry about this Keith, in spite of scoring no goals at all, we still find ourselves above Sunderland in the league, who have at least scored some goals, but find themselves genuinely pointless.

Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:12 pm

Delboy wrote:Rusty,

Who will Newcastle replace Souness with?? All the good premiership managers are taken!


Thats just it....who would take on the job? I dont think Shearer is ready for management just yet, and his playing days are definitely are closing fast, he missed quite a few passes yesterday, seemed very unaware and flat footed, very sad to see, he should have stuck to his original decision to go last season :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:55 pm

I feel bad for poor Owen. I think he is such a greta player. But he´s playing in a team full of vedettes instead of players, so merchandising goes before than quality (even though in Real Madrid play 5 or so of the 10 greatest players of the last decade)

BTW, is Newcastle that rich to pay for Luque and now wanting to hire Owen?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:27 pm

I hope now that Owen has signed for Newcastle(4 years), that the supporters will not expect miracles, but that it will give the team a much need boost..here`s hoping :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:50 pm

Rusty Martin* wrote:I hope now that Owen has signed for Newcastle(4 years), that the supporters will not expect miracles, but that it will give the team a much need boost..here`s hoping :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


If Graeme Souness had the world's 11 best players at hand, I'm sure that he still would have managed to screw up the team!!! :roll: :lol:

Br
Kristian

Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:57 pm

Has Owen signed?? :shock: Wow! What a coup for Souness and co. It just goes to show how much influence Shearer has at the club. 8)

Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:15 pm

Yes, he's signed for 4 years.

Only the obligatory health check (today) remains.

Br
Kristian

Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:25 pm

It looks that Newcastle is very rich. They offered 38 million € for Atletico Madrid´s forward, Fernando Torres, and the Spanish club refused. Morons.

Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:18 pm

This is indeed fantastic news - possibly equal to that of the signing of Shearer in 1996, the only difference being that at least Shearer chose Newcastle - for Owen there seemed little choice. However Owen is one of the best professionals out there, and I have no doubt that, whatever happens, he will do his best for Newcastle for as long as he is there.

A few notes of caution: first, as we know, Owen is only at Newcastle because he needed to play in a World Cup season. As a result, all sorts of rumours are already flying about various get-out clauses in his contract, other than the standard relegation one (this may well have to be invoked - we shall see).

Secondly, Owen is rather injury-prone. How I laughed when he spent so much time in the treatment room at Liverpool. Now it won't be so funny. Kind of reminds me of when we sold Jonathan Woodgate to - guess who? - Real Madrid over a year ago and he is only now able to make his debut.

Thirdly, and perhaps most crucially, it is vital that the manager and the rest of the team pull their weight behind Owen. He is not a one man team but a bloody good goalscorer who needs service and a team giving their all behind him.

But praise should be due to the much-maligned Freddy Shepherd, who basically gambled a hell of a lot of money on this deal, and to Alan Shearer, who did everything possible to persuade Michael Owen to sign.

Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:15 am

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Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:21 am

Delboy -

You wrote:
DISCLAIMER:
I Delboy, have no interest (financial or artistic), stake or knowledge of the rumoured EOT outtakes.
I have no idea of the content, quality of this footage or even if it exists.

In fact, I haven't even seen the original movie!
I'm not even an Elvis fan!


You really should hunt down a copy of the original EOT.

Even though you might not be an Elvis fan, there is a hilarious bit where they talk to some old guy about an elevator which is worth the price of the whole thing.

Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:28 pm

Looks like Newcastle at last found themselves!

At least Shearer and Owen found each other, in the trashing of Blackburn this weekend... :wink:

I bet ol' Souness smiled all the way around his head, achieving this result!

In the other end of the table, Chelsea look like champs already.
They are NOT unbeatable, but it's starting to seem like the rest of the clubs think so..?

Disappointing match between L'pool and Man U, though.
I guess these matches have too much prestige about them to become real goal busters anymore!?

Br
Kristian

Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:45 pm

In a couple of years Ipswich Town will be among the top 4...! That´s my team. :)


Sincerely MB280E

Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:53 pm

Aaaah the Tractor boys! :D They were unlucky last season, just failing to get the last automatic spot. If you fail there the play-offs are a lottery. Look at West Ham. They finished 6th last season and won the play-offs now they're 4th in the premiership!

Chelsea's fine start looks ominous for the rest. Six games, six wins, no goals conceded. It's too early to start saying the race is over but six points clear of the second placed team and twelve points clear of Arsenal and it's only September! :shock:

Good win for the bar codes (Newcastle :D ), if they get on a run they could quickly climb the table.

And as for Liverpool vs Man U I think they've found a cure for insomnia. Dreadful match. :(

Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:57 pm

MB280E wrote:
In a couple of years Ipswich Town will be among the top 4...! That´s my team. :)

Sincerely MB280E


Ipswich had a fantastic team around 1980!

With players like John Wark, Arnold Muhren, Mick Mills, Paul Mariner, Frans Thijsen etc they could beat anyone in their prime!

I remember they trashed Man United 6-0 one time in those days...
I wasn't too happy, to say the least! :oops: :wink:

Ipswich darned near won the League in 1982, wasn't it..?
Only beaten by Aston Villa, if I remember correctly..?

But they won the UEFA cup instead, bringing some very deserved silver ware to their trophy room! :D

Ahhh, those were the days, when English football was really English!!!
Too bad those days are gone...

Br
Kristian

Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:03 pm

Kristian Hjelmaas wrote:Ahhh, those were the days, when English football was really English!!!


Kristian Hjelmaas wrote:With players like John Wark, Arnold Muhren, Frans Thijsen etc!


:D :D :D :wink: