"I've Lost You" Live Version!

[Juan Luis]

Recorded August 11, 1970 dinner show Las Vegas. I first listened to this version many years before the studio single version. I like them both, but enjoy more the live version as found on the TTWII album. A 1970 album highlight Produced by Felton Jarvis with Al Pachucki engineering.

This cover was written by Alan Blaikley and Ken Howard. Matthews' Southern Comfort originally recorded it in 1969.


..
..
I repaired the pops . Thought it was neat.
http://www34.zippyshare.com/v/BFXpTpU0/file.html

[Rob]

I have always liked the song.

The title of this thread is a little deceiving, though.

[Juan Luis]

Wrong date by mistake in title. Fixed.

[LSP-4445]

Great song but I like the single version better than the LIVE ones.
Favorite is take 1

[jetblack]

Always had a lot of time for this song.

The studio version is my pick too though Elvis sure looked and sounded great in August 1970.

Andy

[promiseland]

The single version is perfection - prefer it much more over the live version!

[poormadpeter2]

The live version is a bit more ragged than the studio one, but the timing of the oboe in the introduction is repaired on the Viva Las Vegas release.

[rlj4ep]

Thanks Juan. Always liked this song. Elvis really seems committed in his delivery. I do enjoy the original single version of this song. Too bad it didn't chart better.

rlj

[Stvimpe]

Thanks, Juan Luis! Great take by E.

I prefer the single version above the live one, though it's also very nice, imo.

I like the outtakes on FTD's TTWII as well!!

I've lost you, I just can't help believin' and Just Pretend: my three favorite songs from the album.

[fn2drive]

Studio crushes this ok live recording. The out take on A Hundred years from now EE4 bombast and all and undubbed is the superior version for this song. Anything w/o Felton > anything his fingers ruined.

[Davelee]

Studio crushes this ok live recording. The out take on A Hundred years from now EE4 bombast and all and undubbed is the superior version for this song. Anything w/o Felton > anything his fingers ruined.

Agree. I like the song its ok and Elvis' performance is well commited. The song is nothing to jump up and down about though....

[minkahed]

It's an ok song, drags a lil, but Elvis should have been doing more uptempo stuff at this stage, his voice sounds gr8.

To tell you the truth, I really don't listen to this kind of Elvis material anymore. And that live version is just unbearable. I can't stand the horns.

[Stvimpe]

Some pictures of the single I've lost you

[stevelecher]

I skip the live version everytime. Will play the studio version. Same with the two Patch It Up's.

[Domino]

Whether studio or live ....I like them both.

..

[trouble_jw]

Studio version for me. The mix (studio master) on TTWIS FTD is perfect.

[Mister Mike]

Always loved Jerry's work on bass in the live version.

[bajo]

I'm sorry to say that the live rendition of I've Lost You never really hit me much. The studio version is superior in comparison. Still, I never thought it was good single material. But, that's what Elvis was about, unfortunately, during those early 70's singles. If I were to pick a single from the album, I would have picked Just Pretend/Stranger In The Crowd.

[elvis-fan]

Elvis' studio recording of I've Lost You is one of his finest vocal performances from the 1970's. This, along with You Don't Have To Say You Love Me, are his best ballads of the decade.

[fn2drive]

Studio crushes this ok live recording. The out take on A Hundred years from now EE4 bombast and all and undubbed is the superior version for this song. Anything w/o Felton > anything his fingers ruined.

Agree. I like the song its ok and Elvis' performance is well commited. The song is nothing to jump up and down about though....

The start of the 3/4 decade long run of loves lost ballads. Elvis does Englebert-ugh. Though i will say that the studio version of You Dont Have to Say You Love Me is outstanding. The rehersal or take 1 is incredible. Slower, less bombast, delicate-too bad that as his confidence grew take by take we got the dramatic version. Thankfully ftd released the initial take for those who have an interest in seeing how a track developed.

[jerrynodak]

I don't care for the live version of I've Lost You. Neither do I like the live version of Patch It Up.

[drjohncarpenter]

Studio crushes this ok live recording. The out take on A Hundred years from now EE4 bombast and all and undubbed is the superior version for this song. Anything w/o Felton > anything his fingers ruined.

Agree. I like the song its ok and Elvis' performance is well commited. The song is nothing to jump up and down about though....

The start of the 3/4 decade long run of loves lost ballads. Elvis does Englebert-ugh. Though i will say that the studio version of You Dont Have to Say You Love Me is outstanding. The rehersal or take 1 is incredible. Slower, less bombast, delicate-too bad that as his confidence grew take by take we got the dramatic version. Thankfully ftd released the initial take for those who have an interest in seeing how a track developed.

I disagree with some of the assessment of this release. It was the first appearance of Elvis' 1970 Nashville studio work as a single A-side, after the career-boosting quartet of stellar single A-sides from American Sound in Memphis, as produced by Chips Moman: "In The Ghetto," "Suspicious Minds," "Don't Cry Daddy" and "Kentucky Rain." Looking closely, the song is just one degree of separation from the great folk rock group Fairport Convention, as "I've Lost You" was part of the 1969 solo debut of member Ian Matthews. The ballad was a bit challenging, not far away from the pedigree of those Memphis single recordings, thus its selection by RCA in 1970. The Engelbert influence was on the horizon, no doubt, but not with this cut. Presley sang superbly, the Bergen White arrangement was ambitious, the subject matter mature. The resolution of the chorus was exquisite. It's disappointing "I've Lost You" only got to #32 in Billboard, although it hit #18 in Cash Box.




Billboard - July 25, 1970


The live performance in August 1970 is good, but not quite as precise as the studio release. It's unfortunate it fell out of his set after the September 1970 tour, much like most of those fabulous Memphis singles. Things were changing, perhaps not for the better. I've posted some of this below before, but some may enjoy seeing it here:



..

Elvis Presley "I've Lost You" (RCA 9873, July 18, 1970)
Billboard "Hot 100" #32 September 5, 1970, Cash Box "Top 100" #18 September 12, 1970
Recorded RCA Nashville, Thursday, June 4, 1970

I've Lost You
Ken Howard, Alan Blaikley
© Gladys Music, ASCAP / Cherry Lane Music, ASCAP

Lying by your side, I watch you sleeping
And in your face, the sweetness of a child
Murmuring a dream you won't recapture
Though it will haunt the corners of your mind

Oh, I've lost you though you're near me
And your body still is kind
I've lost you on a journey
But I can't remember where or when

Who can tell when summer turns to autumn
And who can point the moment love grows cold
Softly, without pain, the joy is over
Though why it's gone, we neither of us know

Oh, I've lost you, yes, I've lost you
I can't reach you anymore
We ought to talk it over now
But reason can't stand in for feeling, oh

Oh, I've lost you, yes, I've lost you
I can't reach you anymore
We ought to talk it over now
But reason can't stand in for feeling

Six o'clock, the baby will be crying
And you will stumble, sleeping, to the door
In the chill and sullen gray of morning
We play the parts that we have learned too well

Oh, I've lost you, oh, I've lost you
Though you won't admit it's so
I've lost you on the journey
But I can't remember where or when, oh no

Oh, I've lost you, yes, I've lost you
I can't reach you anymore
We ought to talk it over now
But reason can't stand in for feeling, oh

Oh, I've lost you, yes, I've lost you
I can't reach you anymore
We ought to talk it over now
But reason can't stand in for feeling, oh

I like the original "I've Lost You" by Matthews' Southern Comfort, too.


..




Matthews' Southern Comfort (Decca DL-75191, April 11, 1970)


Interestingly, on the album "I've Lost You" is credited to "Steve Barlby." But why?

I found the answer:

For his first solo project, the country-tinged Matthews’ Southern Comfort (1969), Matthews recruited Richard Thompson, Simon Nicol, and Ashley Hutchings from Fairport, along with drummer Gerry Conway (of Fotheringay and later incarnations of Fairport), pedal steel guitarist Gordon Huntley, and others.

The hit-making team of Ken Howard and Alan Blaikley, who’d crafted songs for the likes of the Honeycombs, the Herd, and Dave Dee, offered to produce and write the album, and secured Matthews a deal with MCA’s UNI label.

Matthews, who’d begun to play guitar during the his days with Fairport, “but only at home and quite spastically,” wanted to contribute to the writing himself, and was concerned that Howard and Blaikley’s reputation as pop Svengalis might hurt the album’s reception.

As a compromise, Howard and Blaikley used the pseudonym Steve Barlby for their songwriting as well as the co-production credit they eventually took. Matthews wrote or co-wrote half the album’s material, including the rockabilly “Dream Song,” which he says is “the only track I can still bear to listen to from that album.

http://www.itsaboutmusic.com/iainmatthews.html

All in all, there was a lot more to "I've Lost You" than many of the 1970s singles to come.

[Juan Luis]

Always loved Jerry's work on bass in the live version.

Exquisite bass playing!

[fn2drive]

Studio crushes this ok live recording. The out take on A Hundred years from now EE4 bombast and all and undubbed is the superior version for this song. Anything w/o Felton > anything his fingers ruined.

Agree. I like the song its ok and Elvis' performance is well commited. The song is nothing to jump up and down about though....

The start of the 3/4 decade long run of loves lost ballads. Elvis does Englebert-ugh. Though i will say that the studio version of You Dont Have to Say You Love Me is outstanding. The rehersal or take 1 is incredible. Slower, less bombast, delicate-too bad that as his confidence grew take by take we got the dramatic version. Thankfully ftd released the initial take for those who have an interest in seeing how a track developed.

I disagree with some of the assessment of this release. It was the first appearance of Elvis' 1970 Nashville studio work as a single A-side, after the career-boosting quartet of stellar single A-sides from American Sound in Memphis, as produced by Chips Moman: "In The Ghetto," "Suspicious Minds," "Don't Cry Daddy" and "Kentucky Rain." Looking closely, the song is just one degree of separation from the great folk rock group Fairport Convention, as "I've Lost You" was part of the 1969 solo debut of member Ian Matthews. The ballad was a bit challenging, not far away from the pedigree of those Memphis single recordings, thus its selection by RCA in 1970. The Engelbert influence was on the horizon, no doubt, but not with this cut. Presley sang superbly, the Bergen White arrangement was ambitious, the subject matter mature. The resolution of the chorus was exquisite. It's disappointing "I've Lost You" only got to #32 in Billboard, although it hit #18 in Cash Box.




Billboard - July 25, 1970

The live performance in August 1970 is good, but not quite as precise as the studio release. It's unfortunate it fell out of his set after the September 1970 tour, much like most of those fabulous Memphis singles. Things were changing, perhaps not for the better. I've posted some of this below before, but some may enjoy seeing it here:



..

Elvis Presley "I've Lost You" (RCA 9873, July 18, 1970)
Billboard "Hot 100" #32 September 5, 1970, Cash Box "Top 100" #18 September 12, 1970
Recorded RCA Nashville, Thursday, June 4, 1970

I've Lost You
Ken Howard, Alan Blaikley
© Gladys Music, ASCAP / Cherry Lane Music, ASCAP

Lying by your side, I watch you sleeping
And in your face, the sweetness of a child
Murmuring a dream you won't recapture
Though it will haunt the corners of your mind

Oh, I've lost you though you're near me
And your body still is kind
I've lost you on a journey
But I can't remember where or when

Who can tell when summer turns to autumn
And who can point the moment love grows cold
Softly, without pain, the joy is over
Though why it's gone, we neither of us know

Oh, I've lost you, yes, I've lost you
I can't reach you anymore
We ought to talk it over now
But reason can't stand in for feeling, oh

Oh, I've lost you, yes, I've lost you
I can't reach you anymore
We ought to talk it over now
But reason can't stand in for feeling

Six o'clock, the baby will be crying
And you will stumble, sleeping, to the door
In the chill and sullen gray of morning
We play the parts that we have learned too well

Oh, I've lost you, oh, I've lost you
Though you won't admit it's so
I've lost you on the journey
But I can't remember where or when, oh no

Oh, I've lost you, yes, I've lost you
I can't reach you anymore
We ought to talk it over now
But reason can't stand in for feeling, oh

Oh, I've lost you, yes, I've lost you
I can't reach you anymore
We ought to talk it over now
But reason can't stand in for feeling, oh

I like the original "I've Lost You" by Matthews' Southern Comfort, too.


..



Matthews' Southern Comfort (UNI / MCA, 1969)

Interestingly, on the album "I've Lost You" is credited to "Steve Barlby." But why?

I found the answer:

For his first solo project, the country-tinged Matthews’ Southern Comfort (1969), Matthews recruited Richard Thompson, Simon Nicol, and Ashley Hutchings from Fairport, along with drummer Gerry Conway (of Fotheringay and later incarnations of Fairport), pedal steel guitarist Gordon Huntley, and others.

The hit-making team of Ken Howard and Alan Blaikley, who’d crafted songs for the likes of the Honeycombs, the Herd, and Dave Dee, offered to produce and write the album, and secured Matthews a deal with MCA’s UNI label.

Matthews, who’d begun to play guitar during the his days with Fairport, “but only at home and quite spastically,” wanted to contribute to the writing himself, and was concerned that Howard and Blaikley’s reputation as pop Svengalis might hurt the album’s reception.

As a compromise, Howard and Blaikley used the pseudonym Steve Barlby for their songwriting as well as the co-production credit they eventually took. Matthews wrote or co-wrote half the album’s material, including the rockabilly “Dream Song,” which he says is “the only track I can still bear to listen to from that album.

http://www.itsaboutmusic.com/iainmatthews.html

All in all, there was a lot more to "I've Lost You" than many of the 1970s singles to come.

In inverse order, your final words sum things up perfectly. My Emglebert reference wasnt specifically targeted to this track. Rather i was thinking about the session that broughht us This is our dance, The next step is love which was b/w the track here and what was to come. Finally your reference to the American sessions is key for me. When originally released it was hard for me to get my head around this after the American singles and LPs and the contrast in style, sound and intensity was and still is jarring. As a loves lost ballad this was one of the better ones-but one that had limited chart potential imo-a solid album track but not single material. Perhaps Ol Felton thought this would be his Suspicious Minds given the similar adult theme. And i really enjoy the raw verion on EE4-it's my go to version. I rarely play the original master any longer. We were in the early days of the bombast here and he pulls it off.

[Mike Windgren]

Hi there!! .

Love this song . My preffered one is the studio version & as included on: Heart & Soul cd (DSD) released in 1995.


Heart & Soul cd. BMG 1995.

This is the first Stereo release of the complete Unedited Overdubbed Master! . Thanks for the topic Juan Luis! . Bye for now .

..

Source: http://www.keithflynn.com/recording-sessions/700604.html#03