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The 45 track 'Presley - The All Time Greatest Hits' is still my go to release for the hits.

The vinyl was something else.

Walking thru the doors of HMV in 1987 and seeing this displayed at shop front was something indeed.

It reached Number #4 on the UK album chart.

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jetblack wrote:The 45 track 'Presley - The All Time Greatest Hits' is still my go to release for the hits.

The vinyl was something else.

Walking thru the doors of HMV in 1987 and seeing this displayed at shop front was something indeed.

It reached Number #4 on the UK album chart.

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The LP promo artwork still looks good today.
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Mike C wrote:
Juan Luis wrote:This is the mix that follows the mono master the closest, IMO. It seems like another vintage stereo mix from 1969.http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/B3dRzatO/file.html
Juan, from which source did you take this mix?
Gold V. I did increase amplitude and repaired a low-end bump at the fadeout. No EQ though.



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jetblack wrote:The 45 track 'Presley - The All Time Greatest Hits' is still my go to release for the hits.

The vinyl was something else.

Walking thru the doors of HMV in 1987 and seeing this displayed at shop front was something indeed.

It reached Number #4 on the UK album chart.

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This was my first ever cd in the early 90s, aged 8. I played it to death and still think it is the strongest line up of hits. It also contains some great mixes of songs from various sources. Love it.


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The one that did it for me was "The Top Ten Hits" from 1987. However, the audio has improved miles since that release.

I do feel that ELV1S 30 #1 Hits (E1) is still relevant, in the sense that it did gather 30 of Elvis' number one hits with the new at the time JXL remix of "A Little Less Conversation." Were some of those number ones deserving? (I'm looking specifically at you, "Wooden Heart"). Probably not. But we cannot change the past. They shouldn't have used the alternate takes of "(Now And Then There's) A Fool Such As I" and "A Big Hunk O' Love" and the alternate performance of "The Wonder Of You." There shouldn't have been flanging on "Suspicious Minds." And the rill between "In The Ghetto" and "Suspicious Minds" should have been corrected.

But despite these flaws, the marketing of E1 was phenomenal. I remember seeing the television ad on constant rotation for this album. I remember going into Wal-Mart and seeing the display they had for this album and then finding out the following week that the album debuted at #1 on the Billboard 200. I remember reading within a month or two after the release of E1 that it had already sold several million copies just in the U.S.

"Second To None" was good in some respects. I don't necessarily think it was wise to include the "I'm A Roustabout" unreleased recording on a compilation of hit recordings. I also don't think the "Rubberneckin'" remix by Paul Oakenfold was quite as good as the JXL remix of "ALLC." I realize that with "Second To None" they chose to include the 6 number ones that couldn't be included on E1. Amongst these was "Rock-A-Hula Baby." When you combine the tracklistings of E1 and E2, I don't think "Rock-A-Hula-Baby" would register anywhere close to the top 60 recordings of Elvis' career. I also didn't care much for the inclusion of "I Forgot To Remember To Forget" on E2, which was a number one country & western hit for Elvis. I think they would have been better served including the more popular "Mystery Train."

The problem I've found with some of the other sets mentioned in this thread such as "Artist Of The Century," "The Essential Elvis Presley" and "Good Rockin' Tonight" is that there often were hit songs excluded that you would think definitely would have been included. For example, "Artist Of The Century" omitted "Kentucky Rain" and "Good Rockin' Tonight" omitted "The Wonder Of You" and "You Don't Have To Say You Love Me." By the same token, in each of the three examples I mentioned, there were recordings that I didn't think belonged on a set, yet were included for inexplicable reasons. One of the ones that comes to mind with "Artist Of The Century" is "Run On." Probably the safer and more popular pick would have been "How Great Thou Art." It's not that I don't like "Run On." I actually like it a lot, but the fact remains that "How Great Thou Art" was the title track of a Grammy winning album for Elvis and it was a staple of his live repertoire from 1970 up until 1977.

As for "The Essential Elvis Presley," the ones that stick out for me are "Fever" (again I love Elvis' recording) and the original recording of "A Little Less Conversation." Why didn't they include the remix instead of "ALLC?" That would have made more sense.

Lastly, the "Good Rockin' Tonight" set included recordings such as "This Is My Heaven," "Adam And Evil" and even "The Fool". I like them all but again, you question whether they were worthy of inclusion.




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I was pleasantly surprised that take 16 (the original master used on the 1968 single and the movie) of ALLC was used on The Essential Elvis Presley. It is not an easy one to find. As far as I know the only CDs that contain that version is The Complete Masters, the FTD and Double Features. All others I know of use take 10, the album version first released on Almost In Love album. I have never liked the "remix" hit version.




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SunKing77 wrote:The one that did it for me was "The Top Ten Hits" from 1987. However, the audio has improved miles since that release.
There are still some goodies on TTTH that make it worthwhile, even today. The mix of Little Sister, in particular, is superb, and beats the pants off of every other version that I've heard.




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+1 for Little Sister on Top 10 Hits, it's on fire.



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SunKing77 wrote:The one that did it for me was "The Top Ten Hits" from 1987. However, the audio has improved miles since that release.

I do feel that ELV1S 30 #1 Hits (E1) is still relevant, in the sense that it did gather 30 of Elvis' number one hits with the new at the time JXL remix of "A Little Less Conversation." Were some of those number ones deserving? (I'm looking specifically at you, "Wooden Heart"). Probably not. But we cannot change the past. They shouldn't have used the alternate takes of "(Now And Then There's) A Fool Such As I" and "A Big Hunk O' Love" and the alternate performance of "The Wonder Of You." There shouldn't have been flanging on "Suspicious Minds." And the rill between "In The Ghetto" and "Suspicious Minds" should have been corrected.

But despite these flaws, the marketing of E1 was phenomenal. I remember seeing the television ad on constant rotation for this album. I remember going into Wal-Mart and seeing the display they had for this album and then finding out the following week that the album debuted at #1 on the Billboard 200. I remember reading within a month or two after the release of E1 that it had already sold several million copies just in the U.S.

"Second To None" was good in some respects. I don't necessarily think it was wise to include the "I'm A Roustabout" unreleased recording on a compilation of hit recordings. I also don't think the "Rubberneckin'" remix by Paul Oakenfold was quite as good as the JXL remix of "ALLC." I realize that with "Second To None" they chose to include the 6 number ones that couldn't be included on E1. Amongst these was "Rock-A-Hula Baby." When you combine the tracklistings of E1 and E2, I don't think "Rock-A-Hula-Baby" would register anywhere close to the top 60 recordings of Elvis' career. I also didn't care much for the inclusion of "I Forgot To Remember To Forget" on E2, which was a number one country & western hit for Elvis. I think they would have been better served including the more popular "Mystery Train."

The problem I've found with some of the other sets mentioned in this thread such as "Artist Of The Century," "The Essential Elvis Presley" and "Good Rockin' Tonight" is that there often were hit songs excluded that you would think definitely would have been included. For example, "Artist Of The Century" omitted "Kentucky Rain" and "Good Rockin' Tonight" omitted "The Wonder Of You" and "You Don't Have To Say You Love Me." By the same token, in each of the three examples I mentioned, there were recordings that I didn't think belonged on a set, yet were included for inexplicable reasons. One of the ones that comes to mind with "Artist Of The Century" is "Run On." Probably the safer and more popular pick would have been "How Great Thou Art." It's not that I don't like "Run On." I actually like it a lot, but the fact remains that "How Great Thou Art" was the title track of a Grammy winning album for Elvis and it was a staple of his live repertoire from 1970 up until 1977.

As for "The Essential Elvis Presley," the ones that stick out for me are "Fever" (again I love Elvis' recording) and the original recording of "A Little Less Conversation." Why didn't they include the remix instead of "ALLC?" That would have made more sense.

Lastly, the "Good Rockin' Tonight" set included recordings such as "This Is My Heaven," "Adam And Evil" and even "The Fool". I like them all but again, you question whether they were worthy of inclusion.
Some gr8 points there the reason so many comps fail to impress is that they try to encompass his huge range of genres on a single disc, if u play nearly all other artists compilations even Sinatra they all flow nicely because each track is similar. Elvis compilations need more thought in them so they actually flow and not jump around from different styles, years, and even sound quality!


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JamieAKelley wrote:E1 is certainly still relevant - though the best mix is on the DVD version, since it doesn't have the brickwall compression added to it.

E1 and E2 are still, at the very least, interesting footnotes for the alternate mixes presented, even if a number of them have been bettered (imo) by later releases.
I absolutely love the 5.1 DVD audio of E1, every song sounds amazing to me and like you mentioned is not brickwalled. I also enjoy listening to it since the cd starts w. JXL ALLC remix & Way Down... and goes in reverse order of the #1s

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Was the Suspicious Minds master replaced with an older master or remixed again for the US Hitstory? Anyone know?


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trouble_jw wrote:Was the Suspicious Minds master replaced with an older master or remixed again for the US Hitstory? Anyone know?
It's definitely not the version on the"E1" hits CD !!!


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So the reissued E1 is a mix of original mixes and the new Bendeth remixes ?


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jetblack wrote:The 45 track 'Presley - The All Time Greatest Hits' is still my go to release for the hits.

The vinyl was something else.

Walking thru the doors of HMV in 1987 and seeing this displayed at shop front was something indeed.

It reached Number #4 on the UK album chart.

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I'm with you on that one.This was the album that got me back to Elvis after my heavy metal days and began the Elvis collecting bug as I loved it so much I had to get more.




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TINML wrote:So the reissued E1 is a mix of original mixes and the new Bendeth remixes ?
As far as I know, my reissued CD of that particular album has all the corrected versions of the pop, flanging, delay and alt. takes of the hits, except "Big Hunk".

"Burning Love" and "Way Down" are the Bendeth mixes.

Are the still relevant ? of course they are, it's still Elvis, but I hardly ever play them.

"The Essential" is gr8 and more accessible.


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minkahed wrote:
TINML wrote:So the reissued E1 is a mix of original mixes and the new Bendeth remixes ?
As far as I know, my reissued CD of that particular album has all the corrected versions of the pop, flanging, delay and alt. takes of the hits, except "Big Hunk".

"Burning Love" and "Way Down" are the Bendeth mixes.
Does your reissued/corrected CD feature the unrepaired backing vocals on "The Wonder of You", as it does on my disc?




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My US version of HitStory has the correct master (spliced) version of A Big Hunk Of Love, and the correct performance of The Wonder Of You, but without the dubbed Nashville vocals and dubbed audience reaction. I still cannot hear the flanging on Suspicious Minds. Am I to expect a "phasing effect" between the channels? The way I understand flanging is when two recordings of the same signal is mixed together but they go in and out of phase with each other causing a sound much like jet engine. Sometimes it is used as a purposeful effect, such as the climax of Tank on ELP's first album. It was quite common in the 60's psychedelic period.



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minkahed wrote:
trouble_jw wrote:Was the Suspicious Minds master replaced with an older master or remixed again for the US Hitstory? Anyone know?
It's definitely not the version on the"E1" hits CD !!!
Ok, upon listening to the Hitstory version of Suspicious Minds, sounds like an older remaster of the original mix but with the volume of the song turned up.

The wonder of you is the undubbed master but in a different mix......not sure of the original source of this? On stage reissue from the late 90s maybe?


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I like the 5.1 the best, no additives, just simple.



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David Bendeth wrote:I like the 5.1 the best, no additives, just simple.
I'd second this Mr Bendeth, welcome back!


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Both Compilations are still my favourite hits CDs. Go back to them regularly.


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TINML wrote:
David Bendeth wrote:I like the 5.1 the best, no additives, just simple.
I'd second this Mr Bendeth, welcome back!
Maybe, now that he's here, he can explain what on earth led him to sign off on perhaps the worst sounding Heartbreak Hotel ever?



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What don't you like about it Pirate?


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David Bendeth had hardly anything to do with the mono stuff which was mastering he did not do. His expertise was in the mixing IIRC. That "Burning Love" mix has not been topped, in my opinion.




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Is David Bendeth here again? If so great.

I always wondered if there were strict directives in place to protect Elvis' vocal on the DVD Elvis 30 Number Ones. I have noticed unlike the Beatles who have isolated channels, isolated vocals that you can extract and have more control. With Elvis the vocal has been overlayed to protect it's extraction. Same for the TTWII Blu ray. So it must be protocol in place to prevent fans having the isolated vocal to create new mixes, etc
Even on the fully idolated vocal extras SM ITG they are just short samples.

So there is no way we will ever get access to the vocals, I just wanted to ve able to adjust levels like I can with the Beatles?


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