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I Will Be Home Again

Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:41 pm

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A few words on THE GOLDEN GATES QUARTET and ELVIS

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In the course of conversations with Orlandus "Dad" Wilson, the great Golden Gate Quartet bass singer, I (tofuhut) was surprised to learn of an impromptu backstage jam session the Golden Gates had with Elvis Presley at the Casino de Paris early in 1960, and the reverberations from that encounter in Elvis's subsequent recorded repertoire. For example, "Elvis Is Back!," Elvis's first LP following his military service, includes a version of the Golden Gates' secular hit "I Will Be Home Again," recorded as a duet with Charlie Hodge.

The lead singer on the Gates' original 1945 version of "I Will Be Home Again" is Alton Bradley, Willie Johnson's post-WWII replacement. Pianist Conrad Frederick and guitarist Abe Green provide a dreamy accompaniment to this rather atypical Golden Gates' smooth ballad. In a 1982 interview with Ray Funk, Conrad Frederick said "I Will Be Home Again" was "the biggest record that the Gates had. In fact that was the only record that moved in a broader area than the spirituals."



The Golden Gate Quartet recorded their original version of this Benny Benjamin and Lou Singer song on 16 March 1945, released on both Okeh 6741 and Columbia 37832. Willie Johnson had left the group and his replacement, Alton Bradley, sang the lead.





The following excerpt from a 1995 interview with Dad Wilson is, unfortunately, somewhat disjointed. A rough transcription follows with Mr. Wilson's comments italicized and my own (tofuhut) in bold.

"Do you remember what dates it was that Elvis visited you in Europe? Was it soon after you'd moved to Europe?"

"Yeah… It must have been in the beginning of the spring of 1960. He came on leave to Paris, from the military. He was doing his military duty in Germany. He came on leave to Paris, weekend leave. And as I understood it, he said he was walking down the street and he saw this theater and on it he saw "Golden Gate Quartet," and he saw the photos that were displayed, you know. He walked in and he asked if he could see the Golden Gate Quartet, if he could meet the Golden Gate Quartet. So they said, 'Well, no, because the show is on and it's almost finished now, so you can't see them.'

So at the time the husband of Line Renaud, Loulou Gaste, he heard the conversation. Because the people didn't understand him [Elvis] plainly, because the people didn't speak English very well. But Loulou Gaste overheard what he was saying, and so he walked over and he said 'Do you know the Golden Gate?' He said that Elvis Presley told him, said 'Well, I know them very well, because they are my professor.' He said, 'Your professor? Well, the show is going to be finished in a few minutes. If you want to, I'll take you back and you can meet…'"

"He didn't know he was talking to Elvis Presley at the time?"

"No. He said, 'You can meet my wife, because my wife is the star of the show.' … After the show finished he brought him back. First he carried him to her [Line Renaud] room you know. He was talking with her, because she spoke very good English too. He was talking with her. He had two men with him. Then he [Loulou Gaste] said, 'Oh you want to meet the Golden Gates. OK, I'll get them and bring them down.' So, we had changed clothes and everything. And he brought us down to Line's dressing room and he said 'This is a young men, he said he know you,' and so forth. So we said, 'Well, yeah. This is Elvis Presley.'"

"You hadn't met him before?"

"Oh yeah, we had met Elvis before, yeah. Oh sure, we had met him before. Because when we was with Wally Fowler and we would come here to Nashville sometimes he would come to see us, you know. Yes, we knew him. We had met him."

"But just met him casually?"

"Yeah, just casually, yeah. So, then we sat down and we started talking. And he said, 'You guys, oh man, imagine! What are you doing here?' He was trying to find out what we were doing there. So they were surprised, 'You mean the Elvis Presley?'

Loulou Gaste, he plays guitar so he had his guitar setting over in the corner. So Elvis picked up the guitar, said 'Oh, that's nice guitar,' started strumming the guitar. And then we started to reminiscing on spirituals, you know. This was about quarter past midnight. And then, we stayed in her [Line Renaud's] dressing room singing and talking and singing and talking until six o'clock in the morning. And so, we didn't see Elvis anymore then until finally, after, I think it was about '65 or something like this, this record came out with things like 'Swing Down Chariot.' "

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SOURCES
http://tofuhut.blogspot.nl
http://www.davidneale.eu/elvis/originals/list4.html#S1280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4fyIeo_N1A

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:20 pm

Thanks! Never read that interview before. Good job duet with Charlie Hodge.

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:30 pm

Thanks so much MikefromHolland! Like Juan, I've never read that information before.
I enjoy Elvis' version of this song. He sounds really good on it. Thanks again

rlj

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:13 pm

Lot's of great new info.I'd like to say that this song is one of the best on the album but I think every song on the album is equally great.And Elvis's singing in 1960 was beyond description.Great topic.Thanks.

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:14 pm

See more here:

The Golden Gate Quartet
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=49252

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:18 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:See more here:

The Golden Gate Quartet
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=49252


Thanks very much for the link DOC! Great information indeed!

rlj

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:35 pm

Fabulous track. This, and Soldier Boy, fitted nicely with the 'Elvis Is Back' theme (I'm not saying that the album was themed).

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:00 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:See more here:

The Golden Gate Quartet
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=49252


And here:

About Elvis' Jam session with Line Renaud in Paris 1960
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=92045#p1467915

::rocks

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Re: I Will Be Home Again

Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:52 pm

Elvis sings it great but I never cared for Charlie's a bit over the top harmony vocal, and thus, its my least favorite song on EIB. Just sounds a bit too forced and not as free flowing as say, Soldier Boy.

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:43 pm

Other versions:

00-06-46 - Selah Jubilee Quartet (Arista 5021);
18-03-52 - The Four Jacks (Federal 12087);
00-00-53 - The Arist-o-kats (Hollywood 406).


colonel snow

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:32 am

The personal chemistry between the singers comes through in the vocal. Harmony at its best! Love the song.

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:00 am

Juan Luis wrote:Good job duet with Charlie Hodge.

Agreed.

I love Charlie's harmony on this.

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:37 am

Great track and insight. No Charlie always> anything with Charlie. Elvis obviously heard something i don't.

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:02 am

colonel snow wrote:Other versions:

00-06-46 - Selah Jubilee Quartet (Arista 5021);
18-03-52 - The Four Jacks (Federal 12087);
00-00-53 - The Arist-o-kats (Hollywood 406).


colonel snow


Thank you colonel snow!

00-06-46 - Selah Jubilee Quartet (Arista 5021)
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At the end of the Second World War the Selah Jubilee Singers, now sometimes dubbed the Selah Jubilee Quartet, consisted of Thermon Ruth and William "Highpockets" Langford - previously a member of the famed Golden Gate Quartet - (lead vocals), Theodore Harris (baritone) and Jimmy Gorham (bass). The North Carolina-based Selahs recorded 12 sides in Los Angeles for Continental Records and the following year another clutch of sides for Arista (purchased by Mercury). Often riding the line between gospel and secular, some of the members later became the great doo-wop pioneers, The Larks.

I Will Be Home Again b/w Jericho Road


(On the) Jericho Road:




18-03-52 - The Four Jacks (Federal 12087)
It looks like this isn't the "I Will Be Home Again" which Elvis recorded. The single label says: "I'll Be Home Again" with credits to Darnell, Jimmy, DeLagarde.
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00-00-53 - The Arist-o-kats (Hollywood 406)
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Re: I Will Be Home Again

Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:29 pm

On this site you'll find audio with I'll be home again by The Four Jacks

http://www.vocalgroupharmony.com/3ROWNEW/TheLastOf.htm



colonel snow

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:32 pm

r&b wrote:Elvis sings it great but I never cared for Charlie's a bit over the top harmony vocal, and thus, its my least favorite song on EIB. Just sounds a bit too forced and not as free flowing as say, Soldier Boy.


The harmony is a bit over the top and oversentimental.. but it actually fits the song and Elvis interpretation well... I actually like the way they do it...
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Re: I Will Be Home Again

Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:39 pm

Here more information about the versions I've mentioned:

http://www.vocalgroupharmony.com/4ROWNE ... ainGGQ.htm

colonel snow

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:55 pm

Sentimental alright but it works for me. Now this might be a silly question, but is that Elvis on guitar?

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:36 am

MaryAnn wrote:The personal chemistry between the singers comes through in the vocal. Harmony at its best! Love the song.


Yes, it does. It sounds like something they probably did while off-duty in Germany. And it's led by Elvis' authoritative acoustic guitar runs.

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:16 am

Pink&Black wrote:Sentimental alright but it works for me. Now this might be a silly question, but is that Elvis on guitar?
Yes it is.

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:35 am

colonel snow wrote:On this site you'll find audio with I'll be home again by The Four Jacks

http://www.vocalgroupharmony.com/3ROWNEW/TheLastOf.htm



colonel snow


Thank you! So, to me it sounds very much as a completely different song, isn't it? Text is different, music is different. The composer credits are different with Mario DeLegarde, Jimmy K.C. and Ravon Darnell mentioned.

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http://www.vocalgroupharmony.com/3ROWNEW/TheLastOf.htm
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Re: I Will Be Home Again

Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:41 pm

Juan Luis wrote:
Pink&Black wrote:Sentimental alright but it works for me. Now this might be a silly question, but is that Elvis on guitar?
Yes it is.


This song could have been a masterpiece with just Elvis soloing with his guitar. Sort of a return to the Sun days. Im just not a fan of Charlie's vocal on this one.

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:54 pm

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Re: I Will Be Home Again

Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:42 pm

Nice post.

This song is one of the highlights of the album for me, but that said, there aren't really any lowlights!
I enjoy the melody, the harmony, Elvis' guitar - nice and, 'authoritive' as the Doc so aptly put it - and just the whole feel of the song as a performance.

Elvis Is Back. The album that keeps on giving!

Re: I Will Be Home Again

Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:51 pm

MikeFromHolland wrote:.

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That is really good stuff Mike. Thanks so much.

rlj