Elvis masters recorded in stereo but not released yet

[ritchie valens]

I Want to be free -Splice of Take 11.Ending 2012-take 5
Young and beautiful splice end movie version.
They can do these splices but why only in mono when stereo sources exist?

[drjohncarpenter]

I Want to be free -Splice of Take 11.Ending 2012-take 5
Young and beautiful splice end movie version.
They can do these splices but why only in mono when stereo sources exist?

You don't work for RCA or FTD, so you cannot say that these "sources" exist. My feeling is they do not.

In the grand scheme of things, these so-called masters "not released" in stereo were never intended to be issued that way. And for almost any fan on the planet, 4 CDs of "Jailhouse Rock" soundtrack masters and outtakes is more than enough.

http://www.elvisinnorway.no/jailhouserockftd.html
http://www.elvisinnorway.no/jailhouserockftd2.html

[stevelecher]

I Want to be free -Splice of Take 11.Ending 2012-take 5
Young and beautiful splice end movie version.
They can do these splices but why only in mono when stereo sources exist?

You don't work for RCA or FTD, so you cannot say that these "sources" exist. My feeling is they do not.

In the grand scheme of things, these so-called masters "not released" in stereo were never intended to be issued that way. And for almost any fan on the planet, 4 CDs of "Jailhouse Rock" soundtrack masters and outtakes is more than enough.

http://www.elvisinnorway.no/jailhouserockftd.html
http://www.elvisinnorway.no/jailhouserockftd2.html

Those 4 CD's are indeed enough but I wouldn't give any of them back.

[svallen]

A stereo version of Hound dog is still not found.
RCA was doing recordings in stereo for classic music in these studios where Hound dog was recorded.
That would be a miracle if these tapes are found in the big tape mess.

[The Pirate]

A stereo version of Hound dog is still not found.

It wouldn't necessarily sound any better than the original, if it was found. I remember when some of the classic tracks by The Swinging Blue Jeans were finally released in stereo, and people were complaining that Hippy Hippy Shake sounded nowhere near as good as the mono mix. Stereo can, in some instances, totally strip a song of all its balls. This is a classic example of Elvis fans wanting something for no other reason than because it might exist, regardless of any musical merit.

[Mike Windgren]

Hi there!! .

A stereo version of Hound dog is still not found.

It wouldn't necessarily sound any better than the original, if it was found. I remember when some of the classic tracks by The Swinging Blue Jeans were finally released in stereo, and people were complaining that Hippy Hippy Shake sounded nowhere near as good as the mono mix. Stereo can, in some instances, totally strip a song of all its balls.

That´s why we need a Mono boxset with all the original Elvis singles in perfect audio quality! . Bye for now .

[Rebel Yell]

A stereo version of Hound dog is still not found.

It wouldn't necessarily sound any better than the original, if it was found. I remember when some of the classic tracks by The Swinging Blue Jeans were finally released in stereo, and people were complaining that Hippy Hippy Shake sounded nowhere near as good as the mono mix. Stereo can, in some instances, totally strip a song of all its balls. This is a classic example of Elvis fans wanting something for no other reason than because it might exist, regardless of any musical merit.

That is true, for some reasons I always find British early stereo recordings "weird". Just take a listen to early Beatles no wonder why the
bigger part of their albums was restored and released in mono 2009 as the original mono releases was long out of print.
But with U.S. releases from late 50's and onwards the American's had a much better clue what stereo was about.
You could easy compare for yourself Swingin Blue Jeans Hippy Hippy Shake stereoversion from 63 or Beatles Stereo releases from (as late as) Rubber Soul released Dec. 1965 to any tracks from Elvis Is Back recorded early 1960. There is a huge difference in what stereo
was about comparing G.B and U.S. releases,

[Tim C]

This argument is BS. I don't want the stereo or binaural recording not merely because they exist, but because I want to hear it, because I want to judge for myself. I don't need or want anyone making that decision for me. It's the same arguement for those including myself who want to hear the music that was created in the studio without the overdubbing. It's something different, something new to discover and appreciate.

[maxou]

I Want to be free -Splice of Take 11.Ending 2012-take 5
Young and beautiful splice end movie version.
They can do these splices but why only in mono when stereo sources exist?

I Want To Be Free Master Take 11 Binaural

https://mega.nz/#!0k4yBKyK!zrViwgWajrT2qQm6uxNNWI8ZwHXS9GO4iqjunPEPOdQ

[When In Rome]

To be honest, if the complete '31 grueling takes' of Hound Dog ever turned up in binaural, mono, 7.2 surround sound or even Electronically Reprocessed Stereo I'd take 'em!

[drjohncarpenter]

A stereo version of Hound dog is still not found.

It wouldn't necessarily sound any better than the original, if it was found. I remember when some of the classic tracks by The Swinging Blue Jeans were finally released in stereo, and people were complaining that Hippy Hippy Shake sounded nowhere near as good as the mono mix. Stereo can, in some instances, totally strip a song of all its balls. This is a classic example of Elvis fans wanting something for no other reason than because it might exist, regardless of any musical merit.

Indeed. Also, I do not believe RCA New York was set up for binaural recording in July 1956. Or, if it had that capability, that they would have run it during Elvis' session. If there is any evidence to support the suggestion, I'd love to see it.

[nicod98]

Hi there!! .

A stereo version of Hound dog is still not found.

It wouldn't necessarily sound any better than the original, if it was found. I remember when some of the classic tracks by The Swinging Blue Jeans were finally released in stereo, and people were complaining that Hippy Hippy Shake sounded nowhere near as good as the mono mix. Stereo can, in some instances, totally strip a song of all its balls.

That´s why we need a Mono boxset with all the original Elvis singles in perfect audio quality! . Bye for now .

You're Right, I love that mono single mix of "Heart Of Rome"...
Perhaps include the mono promos as well?

[drjohncarpenter]

That´s why we need a Mono boxset with all the original Elvis singles in perfect audio quality!

You're Right, I love that mono single mix of "Heart Of Rome"...
Perhaps include the mono promos as well?

The MONO mix of that one would be a dream come true.

[midnightx]

That´s why we need a Mono boxset with all the original Elvis singles in perfect audio quality!

You're Right, I love that mono single mix of "Heart Of Rome"...
Perhaps include the mono promos as well?

The MONO mix of that one would be a dream come true.

Is there a mono mix of Sylvia?

[drjohncarpenter]

You're Right, I love that mono single mix of "Heart Of Rome"...
Perhaps include the mono promos as well?

The MONO mix of that one would be a dream come true.

Is there a mono mix of Sylvia?

Make that two dreams come true.

[danielf]

You're Right, I love that mono single mix of "Heart Of Rome"...
Perhaps include the mono promos as well?

The MONO mix of that one would be a dream come true.

Is there a mono mix of Sylvia?

Make that two dreams come true.

You should hear the UK 'My Boy' mono mix!
YOU will no doubt wet your pants.

[midnightx]

You should hear the UK 'My Boy' mono mix!

You are such a tease.

[Juan Luis]

It would be great for a binaural recording of HD to show up, not to listen in stereo/binaural necesarily , but to make a better mono fold-down of it a la LMT. LMT sounds much better today (in mono) because of that.

[ritchie valens]

If it was recorded in stereo i dont want fake mono from fold downs with Elvis most of the mono was fold downs except when you get in 1969-1972 there was true mono mixes made that were not fold downs.More companies are making true stereo mixes since the true stereo sources exist Rhino has made stereo remixes of songs orignally released in mono cause the sources are there not fake either. Yes all the Jailhouse rock sessions were recorded in binaural .And the takes exist to make the stereo binaural masters read Keith site u will see.Case in point both versions of the treat me nice film version master has been released overdubbed in stereo and the undubbed master has just be released this way too dont say it aint there read the site first.

[nicod98]

If it was recorded in stereo i dont want fake mono from fold downs with Elvis most of the mono was fold downs except when you get in 1969-1972 there was true mono mixes made that were not fold downs.More companies are making true stereo mixes since the true stereo sources exist Rhino has made stereo remixes of songs orignally released in mono cause the sources are there not fake either. Yes all the Jailhouse rock sessions were recorded in binaural .And the takes exist to make the stereo binaural masters read Keith site u will see.Case in point both versions of the treat me nice film version master has been released overdubbed in stereo and the undubbed master has just be released this way too dont say it aint there read the site first.

Not always... I don't really like the song, but listen to Frankie & Johnny: the original mono album version vs the original single... what a difference, certainly a different mix, they cannot both be folddowns.

[ritchie valens]

Whistling tune master t4 from Follow that dream sessions stereo master is lost so u look at summer of 61 ftd recreated stereo syncing the undubbed stereo master with the mono overdub whistling.
It can be done with today's tech. All Jailhouse rock sessions were recorded in binaural all takes exist in binaural so here's the breakdown of the mono spliced master of Young and beautiful end version it can be done easy in binaural
l is spliced as follows:

0:00-0:30 Take 12 (Count-In for 2004-12 - "you're so young and beautiful")
0:31-0:34 Take 8 ("your lips so rare")
0:35-0:46 Take 12 ("your eyes that shine..., shame the stars that glow")
0:46-1:12 Take 18 ("So fill" to "forever young... and beautiful")
1:13-1:44 Take 12 ("to me..." to "oh take this")
1:45-1:46 Take 22 ("heart")
1:47-2:09 Take 12 ("I offer"...."to")
2:10-2:19 Take 8 ("me...")

[ritchie valens]

I want to be free record master isn't correct it's take 11 with work part take 5 for end they have used only take 11 without the splice it's not corrected even on the complete masters set.The original 'Record Version' of I Want To Be Free that appeared on the 1957 EP of "Jailhouse Rock" was spliced from 2010 Take 11 and 2012 Take 5 (Bass Ending), but since the release of the "50's Box" just the complete Take 11 has been used as the Master. FTD's deluxe Volume 1 of 'Jailhouse Rock' uses the original splice, and is the first official CD release of the original Master, although the original Spliced Master did appear on CD briefly in 1989 . This is the on going thing doing stereo remixes is the now. Not mono .u guys could do these two splices .

[L Ray]

A stereo version of Hound dog is still not found.

It wouldn't necessarily sound any better than the original, if it was found. I remember when some of the classic tracks by The Swinging Blue Jeans were finally released in stereo, and people were complaining that Hippy Hippy Shake sounded nowhere near as good as the mono mix. Stereo can, in some instances, totally strip a song of all its balls. This is a classic example of Elvis fans wanting something for no other reason than because it might exist, regardless of any musical merit.

Indeed. Also, I do not believe RCA New York was set up for binaural recording in July 1956. Or, if it had that capability, that they would have run it during Elvis' session. If there is any evidence to support the suggestion, I'd love to see it.

I agree. I don't believe Elvis was recorded in stereo in 1956 except for LMT soundtrack. That was a different set up altogether for the movie.

[ritchie valens]

cant one of you guys splice the takes toghether to make the complete binaural movie end version Young and beautiful andThe splice lp master Of i want to be free pls ty?

[poormadpeter2]

A stereo version of Hound dog is still not found.

It wouldn't necessarily sound any better than the original, if it was found. I remember when some of the classic tracks by The Swinging Blue Jeans were finally released in stereo, and people were complaining that Hippy Hippy Shake sounded nowhere near as good as the mono mix. Stereo can, in some instances, totally strip a song of all its balls. This is a classic example of Elvis fans wanting something for no other reason than because it might exist, regardless of any musical merit.

Indeed. Also, I do not believe RCA New York was set up for binaural recording in July 1956. Or, if it had that capability, that they would have run it during Elvis' session. If there is any evidence to support the suggestion, I'd love to see it.

Indeed. While RCA were certainly recording in stereo by 1956 (the first Living Stereo album was 1954), there is no reason at all why they would be using it for a popular artist that was no doubt presumed to be a flash-in-the-pan, and even more so for a session designed for a single.