It Hurts Me 63 or 68?
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Really?drjohncarpenter wrote: Presley isn't singing about "fun," he's laying out the difference between life and death, about finding redemption. In June 1968, he chooses life.
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Yup. I've often cited Steve Binder as one of the great collaborations Presley ever had. He's right up there with Sam Phillips at Sun, and Chips Moman at American.r&b wrote:Right and lets not forget it was the incredible creative Steve Binder who liked the idea of the sitdown after witnessing the dressing room rehearsals. He let Elvis out of his cage so to speak. Steve sometimes gets overlooked for what is perhaps the defining moment in Elvis' 1960's career. The raw talent was always there, but someone had to unleash it. Thank you Steve!fn2drive wrote:Whether they in general surpass the original masters isnt the story. What is imo is that over the days at Burbank, he fought off the straightjacket that had confined him for years and in toto created among the greatest rock and roll ever recorded. The sit down shows had 2 instruments and a guitar case and of course Elvis voice. Yet it feels as if there was a whole band because of his exhuberance and passion. There is no way to adequately describe just how much he needed to break free. Perhaps a more apt description was he was fighting for his soul.
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Not really. Elvis never looked comfortable sat down, and was looking for an excuse to stand up, I think I'll put a strap around this and stand up. The stand up segments are the only parts that bear repeated watching.r&b wrote:Right and lets not forget it was the incredible creative Steve Binder who liked the idea of the sitdown after witnessing the dressing room rehearsals. He let Elvis out of his cage so to speak.
It Hurts Me - 68 version. Compelling. One of only three songs on which Elvis bettered the originals in '68. Love Me Tender and Let Yourself Go being the other two.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way!mike edwards66 wrote:Elvis never looked comfortable sat down, and was looking for an excuse to stand up, I think I'll put a strap around this and stand up. The stand up segments are the only parts that bear repeated watching.
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You mean compared to the fact that he looked pasty and was visibly shaking in Stand up 1 til about 3 nu,bers in. No confidence. Sheer terror. He was relaxed in both sit downs. They all bear up to repeated viewing.mike edwards66 wrote:Not really. Elvis never looked comfortable sat down, and was looking for an excuse to stand up, I think I'll put a strap around this and stand up. The stand up segments are the only parts that bear repeated watching.r&b wrote:Right and lets not forget it was the incredible creative Steve Binder who liked the idea of the sitdown after witnessing the dressing room rehearsals. He let Elvis out of his cage so to speak.
It Hurts Me - 68 version. Compelling. One of only three songs on which Elvis bettered the originals in '68. Love Me Tender and Let Yourself Go being the other two.
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Sam Phillips is up there by himself.drjohncarpenter wrote:Yup. I've often cited Steve Binder as one of the great collaborations Presley ever had. He's right up there with Sam Phillips at Sun, and Chips Moman at American.r&b wrote:Right and lets not forget it was the incredible creative Steve Binder who liked the idea of the sitdown after witnessing the dressing room rehearsals. He let Elvis out of his cage so to speak. Steve sometimes gets overlooked for what is perhaps the defining moment in Elvis' 1960's career. The raw talent was always there, but someone had to unleash it. Thank you Steve!fn2drive wrote:Whether they in general surpass the original masters isnt the story. What is imo is that over the days at Burbank, he fought off the straightjacket that had confined him for years and in toto created among the greatest rock and roll ever recorded. The sit down shows had 2 instruments and a guitar case and of course Elvis voice. Yet it feels as if there was a whole band because of his exhuberance and passion. There is no way to adequately describe just how much he needed to break free. Perhaps a more apt description was he was fighting for his soul.
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Alongside Felton Jarvis.Juan Luis wrote:Sam Phillips is up there by himself.drjohncarpenter wrote:Yup. I've often cited Steve Binder as one of the great collaborations Presley ever had. He's right up there with Sam Phillips at Sun, and Chips Moman at American.r&b wrote:Right and lets not forget it was the incredible creative Steve Binder who liked the idea of the sitdown after witnessing the dressing room rehearsals. He let Elvis out of his cage so to speak. Steve sometimes gets overlooked for what is perhaps the defining moment in Elvis' 1960's career. The raw talent was always there, but someone had to unleash it. Thank you Steve!fn2drive wrote:Whether they in general surpass the original masters isnt the story. What is imo is that over the days at Burbank, he fought off the straightjacket that had confined him for years and in toto created among the greatest rock and roll ever recorded. The sit down shows had 2 instruments and a guitar case and of course Elvis voice. Yet it feels as if there was a whole band because of his exhuberance and passion. There is no way to adequately describe just how much he needed to break free. Perhaps a more apt description was he was fighting for his soul.
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No.midnightx wrote:Alongside Felton Jarvis.Juan Luis wrote:Sam Phillips is up there by himself.drjohncarpenter wrote:Yup. I've often cited Steve Binder as one of the great collaborations Presley ever had. He's right up there with Sam Phillips at Sun, and Chips Moman at American.r&b wrote:Right and lets not forget it was the incredible creative Steve Binder who liked the idea of the sitdown after witnessing the dressing room rehearsals. He let Elvis out of his cage so to speak. Steve sometimes gets overlooked for what is perhaps the defining moment in Elvis' 1960's career. The raw talent was always there, but someone had to unleash it. Thank you Steve!fn2drive wrote:Whether they in general surpass the original masters isnt the story. What is imo is that over the days at Burbank, he fought off the straightjacket that had confined him for years and in toto created among the greatest rock and roll ever recorded. The sit down shows had 2 instruments and a guitar case and of course Elvis voice. Yet it feels as if there was a whole band because of his exhuberance and passion. There is no way to adequately describe just how much he needed to break free. Perhaps a more apt description was he was fighting for his soul.
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Steve Binder has given Elvis all the credit for the Special being perceived how it is today. The live segments anyway.
And I was more than a little surprised when Patti Parry stated in an interview some years back that Elvis didn't really get along with Steve Binder !
And I was more than a little surprised when Patti Parry stated in an interview some years back that Elvis didn't really get along with Steve Binder !
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1964, when Elvis was still lean, mean & kickin' butt! . Bye for now .
1964, when Elvis was still lean, mean & kickin' butt! . Bye for now .
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He was even leaner, meaner & kickin' ASS!! in '68. Bye for now .Mike Windgren wrote:Hi there!! .
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Yes you have given the man his just due over several different discussions.drjohncarpenter wrote:Yup. I've often cited Steve Binder as one of the great collaborations Presley ever had. He's right up there with Sam Phillips at Sun, and Chips Moman at American.r&b wrote:Right and lets not forget it was the incredible creative Steve Binder who liked the idea of the sitdown after witnessing the dressing room rehearsals. He let Elvis out of his cage so to speak. Steve sometimes gets overlooked for what is perhaps the defining moment in Elvis' 1960's career. The raw talent was always there, but someone had to unleash it. Thank you Steve!fn2drive wrote:Whether they in general surpass the original masters isnt the story. What is imo is that over the days at Burbank, he fought off the straightjacket that had confined him for years and in toto created among the greatest rock and roll ever recorded. The sit down shows had 2 instruments and a guitar case and of course Elvis voice. Yet it feels as if there was a whole band because of his exhuberance and passion. There is no way to adequately describe just how much he needed to break free. Perhaps a more apt description was he was fighting for his soul.
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Hi there!! .
Agree!, but 1964 was still a cool year for Elvis. 1964 January Nashville recordings, Roustabout & Girl Happy . Bye for now .promiseland wrote:He was even leaner, meaner & kickin' ASS!! in '68. Bye for now .Mike Windgren wrote:
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How is Girl Happy / Girl Happy soundtrack cool? And those January sessions hardly resulted in 12 great (cool) songs...Mike Windgren wrote:Hi there!! .
Agree!, but 1964 was still a cool year for Elvis. 1964 January Nashville recordings, Roustabout & Girl Happy . Bye for now .promiseland wrote:He was even leaner, meaner & kickin' ASS!! in '68. Bye for now .Mike Windgren wrote:
1964, when Elvis was still lean, mean & kickin' butt! . Bye for now .
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I like both....one thing came to my mind..on the bootleg vinyl The 68 Comeback with have the version with this unique instrumental break..can someone shed some like on this..why was this done...is it from the soundtrack or an alternate scene..?
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1964 was anything but a cool year for Elvis. In fact, it was the year he became uncool in my school.Mike Windgren wrote:Hi there!! .
Agree!, but 1964 was still a cool year for Elvis. 1964 January Nashville recordings, Roustabout & Girl Happy . Bye for now .promiseland wrote:He was even leaner, meaner & kickin' ASS!! in '68. Bye for now .Mike Windgren wrote:
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1964 unquestionably. That recording was the end of an era.
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1964.... Elvis was near his peak for ballads (along with big love big heartache)..... Two tracks I would take to a desert island to listen to time and time again
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No. Binder badly missed a trick. What he should have done was put Elvis, for the first time in seven years, on a stage. Put the King on a stage, not a boxing ring, point a camera at him, and watch him find himself. That would have been your magic, right there.fn2drive wrote:You mean compared to the fact that he looked pasty and was visibly shaking in Stand up 1 til about 3 nu,bers in. No confidence. Sheer terror. He was relaxed in both sit downs. They all bear up to repeated viewing.mike edwards66 wrote:Elvis never looked comfortable sat down, and was looking for an excuse to stand up, I think I'll put a strap around this and stand up. The stand up segments are the only parts that bear repeated watching.
It Hurts Me - 68 version. Compelling. One of only three songs on which Elvis bettered the originals in '68. Love Me Tender and Let Yourself Go being the other two.
As it played, it was a disjointed and jumbled affair. The sit-down segment should have been, could have been, pegged to five minutes maximum, and used in place of the lame production numbers to provide brief narrative. Instead of that, we know an uncomfortable Elvis resorted to reading his script, and asking for a strap, so he could stand up.
The only saving grace, the stand-up segment, whilst not without glaring flaws, offers a tantalizing glimpse of what might have been.
Thank you buddy!Eggrert wrote:I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way!mike edwards66 wrote:Elvis never looked comfortable sat down, and was looking for an excuse to stand up, I think I'll put a strap around this and stand up. The stand up segments are the only parts that bear repeated watching.
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There was great stuff from the sit-down shows. But, was he uncomfortable? No doubt.
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If only Felton Jarvis had been at NBC Burbank in June 1968.mike edwards66 wrote:No. Binder badly missed a trick. ...fn2drive wrote:You mean compared to the fact that he looked pasty and was visibly shaking in Stand up 1 til about 3 nu,bers in. No confidence. Sheer terror. He was relaxed in both sit downs. They all bear up to repeated viewing.
As it played, it was a disjointed and jumbled affair. The sit-down segment should have been, could have been, pegged to five minutes maximum ...
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drjohncarpenter wrote:If only Felton Jarvis had been at NBC Burbank in June 1968.mike edwards66 wrote:No. Binder badly missed a trick. ...fn2drive wrote:You mean compared to the fact that he looked pasty and was visibly shaking in Stand up 1 til about 3 nu,bers in. No confidence. Sheer terror. He was relaxed in both sit downs. They all bear up to repeated viewing.
As it played, it was a disjointed and jumbled affair. The sit-down segment should have been, could have been, pegged to five minutes maximum ...
What is your point, brother? Felton? Couldn't a hurt any. We might have ended up with a show we occasionally watch.
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