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I heard a little sample of one of the duets from the previous duets album, and I don't think I would like this album.
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steve in SC wrote:Excuse my ignorance but what is this "wire recording"?
Here you go..



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billyblues wrote:
garyt wrote:Do you remember Vic Corona(?) said he heard one of the new songs and he was blown away!
He wasn't referring to this. The Vic Colona stuff was the Hayride '56 rehearsal.
Yes, it's really odd how that link was made in the first place, but people ran with it and it refuses to die, even though refuted on the original thread.


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MaryAnn wrote:
luckyjackson1 wrote:Never listened to neither the Duets nor the Viva Elvis CD... :wink:
Your name fits. You are lucky.
Maybe the double negative conceals the truth. He loves them both.


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I'm willing to give the album a chance. I did like the "Always on My Mind" album. I hope the whole album isn't a duets thing though. I hate that sort of stuff. It would be a nice place to put some Ann Margret duets though. I doubt that Sony asked her to participate.



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Hi there!! :D :D :D.
Moonchild wrote:
Mike Windgren wrote:
Moonchild wrote:I hope your right Johnny2523..I doubt Ernst would come to Elvis Week to promote this trash! I was able to talk to Ernst for a few minutes last year at Elvis Week..and he did say some nice releases coming for 2015.
And what were those nice releases coming....? :wink:. Bye for now :smt006.
Hello there..he didnt say. I mentioned the wire recording and he said ill have to wait and see..
Hmm, I see. It looks like he gives the same answer to everybody :shock:.

When I asked him back in 2011 about Viva Las Vegas Vol 2 & Fun In Acapulco Vol 2 he said the same: I´ll have to wait and see...

Thanks!. Bye for now :smt006.


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I don´t want to rule this one out before I have listened to it. If the choose the right songs this could be good.



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Dont know if its been named yet , but, the big release for 2015 is due in September called 'If I Can Dream' which features Elvis and other artists, including Michael Buble, remixed with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. Should be a big seller providing it gets TV exposure.


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dennyelvis wrote:Dont know if its been named yet , but, the big release for 2015 is due in September called 'If I Can Dream' which features Elvis and other artists, including Michael Buble, remixed with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. Should be a big seller providing it gets TV exposure.
Source ? Any links ?


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dennyelvis wrote:Dont know if its been named yet , but, the big release for 2015 is due in September called 'If I Can Dream' which features Elvis and other artists, including Michael Buble, remixed with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. Should be a big seller providing it gets TV exposure.
Elvis drifts further away from people seeing him as the King of Rock N Roll with a release like this. King of MOR is more like it.




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http://www.maurodirago.com/biog.html

MAURO is also currently working with DON REEDMAN the producer behind such massive sellers as TOM JONES' "Reload"; HOOKED ON CLASSICS' MICHAEL CRAWFORD 'and the hugely successful CHILLOUT ALBUM series - Mauro contributing to the recent collection with a song by Paul McCartney / NITIN SAWHNEY . called MY SOUL -the album was a Top 3 chart success!!

Mauro is currently working on an exciting new album with Priscilla Presley and Don Recording the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra with Elvis Presley keep visiting this sight for up dates.




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Focus Music - Don Reedman
http://www.focus-music.com, 4 Mar 2015 [cached]
Don Reedman Focus Music - Don Reedman Focus Music International
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# Don Reedman
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Don Reedman came to England in 1969 from Australia on a working holiday for 12 months with a dream of making a career in the music business. His first break was getting a job at ATV Music as a song plugger. The first record that he was involved with was "Sugar Sugar" by The Archies, which went on to spend 8 weeks at No. 1.
After a year, he left to join Carlin Music as a professional manager and found songs for Elvis Presley, Cliff Richard and many more. He co-wrote with Jeff Jarratt and John Cameron the hit for Mickie Most's band CCS "The Band Played The Boogie".
In the 1970s Don joined K-Tel and created compilation albums - selling over 40 million copies worldwide.
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In the late 80s Don joined Telstar and was instrumental in the creation of the '100%' series (Dance, Rap, Reggae), the 'MegaBass' series and 'Unchained Melodies' series. Don signed the Jive Bunny project to Telstar after hearing the single 'Swing the Mood' on the radio. The album went on to sell over a million copies in the UK.
In the 90s he had huge success with 'The Best Dance Album of the Year 95' and 'Dance Nation 95'.
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In 1996 Don formed Focus Music International - a company that specialises in creative concepts, which works independently of and directly with the major record companies.
Don signed Jane McDonald who had been in a very successful TV documentary series called 'The Cruise'.
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Jane was turned down by every major recording company in the UK but after meeting her, Don decided instinctively to sign her to Focus Music, and was the executive producer of her first album, 'Jane McDonald', which reached No. 1 and remained in the charts for six months.
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A meeting was arranged with Tom Jones' manager Mark Woodward, and Don's then partner at Focus, Guy Holmes, to present him with the duets concept.
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Don went on to create successful compilation albums for Sony Music, including the 'All Time Greatest' series, 'What A Feeling', the 'Perfect Day' series, the 'Music To Watch Girls By' series, and 'The Classic Chillout Album' series.
With Universal Music, Don worked with artists such as Status Quo, Hank Marvin, David Essex.
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Don is working with a new duo called The Piano Brothers, whose repertoire moves from contemporary to classic rock material and has a very unique sound and style.
Don is currently working with Priscilla Presley and Sony Music producing an album with Nick Patrick starring Elvis Presley with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra.



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What are they suppose to do with the wire recording. Make a 2 minuate cd?. It would all be filler of stuff we already have to complete the disc.




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Dnorman90 wrote:What are they suppose to do with the wire recording. Make a 2 minuate cd?. It would all be filler of stuff we already have to complete the disc.
Considering career defining albums like Elvis Today (!!) are proposed to be getting Legacy Edition treatments, it is no small anticipation that a new Sun retrospective of some sort will come from Sony at some point.

2014 has come and gone (That's All Right anniversary) but 2015 marks the 60th anniversary of Elvis' first #1 record anywhere which of course was… I Forgot To Remember To Forget, the very song captured in a live performance on the wire recording.

Further, A Boy From Tupelo came and went in 2012.

Elvis At Sun remains the last (and best sounding) compile of any Sun material at retail.

Sony could easily fashion a 2 CD set including the masters and choice outtake and live material from A Boy From Tupelo, whilst singing off the set with the wire recording.

At the same time it would be really cool to get a 78rpm 10" vinyl replica of the original single, with the live recording added on:

Side A: I Forgot to Remember to Forget
Side B: Mystery Train - I Forgot to Remember to Forget (live)

It will be a crying shame if such a cool recording remains only as a YouTube video with audio captured through a digital camera microphone.




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Moonchild wrote:Ive never heard of anyone becoming a fan of someone with newly overdubbed music..Elvis or anyone!!!
Possibly not, but I bet many bought a few Sinatra albums after Duets came out - and that was just as much a fabrication despite the fact Sinatra was alive and a willing participant. If the new release gets good advertising then it's likely that Elvis's name will be in the spotlight again if only for a few weeks, just as Sinatra's is at the moment with significant displays of his CDs in most HMV stores at the moment. Alas, the Sinatra legacy is in much better shape than Elvis's at the moment when it comes to retail level, so people who do buy the new CD will only find greatest hits and cobbled together legacy editions, sometimes of mediocre LPs, to go to even if they use the new album as an entryway into the catalogue.




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poormadpeter wrote:
Moonchild wrote:Ive never heard of anyone becoming a fan of someone with newly overdubbed music..Elvis or anyone!!!
Possibly not, but I bet many bought a few Sinatra albums after Duets came out - and that was just as much a fabrication despite the fact Sinatra was alive and a willing participant. If the new release gets good advertising then it's likely that Elvis's name will be in the spotlight again if only for a few weeks, just as Sinatra's is at the moment with significant displays of his CDs in most HMV stores at the moment. Alas, the Sinatra legacy is in much better shape than Elvis's at the moment when it comes to retail level, so people who do buy the new CD will only find greatest hits and cobbled together legacy editions, sometimes of mediocre LPs, to go to even if they use the new album as an entryway into the catalogue.

It wasn't long ago that Sinatra's catalog was as spotty as Elvis's on CD, but his company has done a great job in getting most of Frank's albums back in the retail marketplace. It could easily be done for Elvis as well. But personally I think that outside of FTD, Elvis is a lower priority for Sony - well behind Dylan, Tony Bennett, Johnny Cash, Streisand ,etc. That just the way it appears to me.




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poormadpeter wrote:
Moonchild wrote:Ive never heard of anyone becoming a fan of someone with newly overdubbed music..Elvis or anyone!!!
Possibly not, but I bet many bought a few Sinatra albums after Duets came out - and that was just as much a fabrication despite the fact Sinatra was alive and a willing participant. If the new release gets good advertising then it's likely that Elvis's name will be in the spotlight again if only for a few weeks, just as Sinatra's is at the moment with significant displays of his CDs in most HMV stores at the moment. Alas, the Sinatra legacy is in much better shape than Elvis's at the moment when it comes to retail level, so people who do buy the new CD will only find greatest hits and cobbled together legacy editions, sometimes of mediocre LPs, to go to even if they use the new album as an entryway into the catalogue.
I know a few folks who did just that.




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gantonicel@aol.com wrote:
poormadpeter wrote:
Moonchild wrote:Ive never heard of anyone becoming a fan of someone with newly overdubbed music..Elvis or anyone!!!
Possibly not, but I bet many bought a few Sinatra albums after Duets came out - and that was just as much a fabrication despite the fact Sinatra was alive and a willing participant. If the new release gets good advertising then it's likely that Elvis's name will be in the spotlight again if only for a few weeks, just as Sinatra's is at the moment with significant displays of his CDs in most HMV stores at the moment. Alas, the Sinatra legacy is in much better shape than Elvis's at the moment when it comes to retail level, so people who do buy the new CD will only find greatest hits and cobbled together legacy editions, sometimes of mediocre LPs, to go to even if they use the new album as an entryway into the catalogue.

It wasn't long ago that Sinatra's catalog was as spotty as Elvis's on CD, but his company has done a great job in getting most of Frank's albums back in the retail marketplace. It could easily be done for Elvis as well. But personally I think that outside of FTD, Elvis is a lower priority for Sony - well behind Dylan, Tony Bennett, Johnny Cash, Streisand ,etc. That just the way it appears to me.
Yup and Elvis albums were not consistently of high quality, in fact most were quite below average, so maybe putting just the best stuff out there in circulation would be a good idea. Hey, that was already done in the 90's! The catalog was in good shape at one time.




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r&b wrote:
gantonicel@aol.com wrote:
poormadpeter wrote:
Moonchild wrote:Ive never heard of anyone becoming a fan of someone with newly overdubbed music..Elvis or anyone!!!
Possibly not, but I bet many bought a few Sinatra albums after Duets came out - and that was just as much a fabrication despite the fact Sinatra was alive and a willing participant. If the new release gets good advertising then it's likely that Elvis's name will be in the spotlight again if only for a few weeks, just as Sinatra's is at the moment with significant displays of his CDs in most HMV stores at the moment. Alas, the Sinatra legacy is in much better shape than Elvis's at the moment when it comes to retail level, so people who do buy the new CD will only find greatest hits and cobbled together legacy editions, sometimes of mediocre LPs, to go to even if they use the new album as an entryway into the catalogue.

It wasn't long ago that Sinatra's catalog was as spotty as Elvis's on CD, but his company has done a great job in getting most of Frank's albums back in the retail marketplace. It could easily be done for Elvis as well. But personally I think that outside of FTD, Elvis is a lower priority for Sony - well behind Dylan, Tony Bennett, Johnny Cash, Streisand ,etc. That just the way it appears to me.
Yup and Elvis albums were not consistently of high quality, in fact most were quite below average, so maybe putting just the best stuff out there in circulation would be a good idea. Hey, that was already done in the 90's! The catalog was in good shape at one time.
Yes, and it all went downhill remarkably quickly. The CD catalogue was pretty much as it should be before they started fiddling with it around 1999 or 2000 with reissuing stuff that had already been released on CD - such as the new On Stage, Moody Blue and Promised Land discs. And then it was compilation after compilation for no apparent reason. Around 100 of them!



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GibbersGanfa wrote:
Moonchild wrote:Ive never heard of anyone becoming a fan of someone with newly overdubbed music..Elvis or anyone!!!
Well, not anyone who hangs around on Elvis forums like these. I can confirm this does indeed happen, and it generally leads those casual listeners back to Elvis' original music and that's what wins them over... and that Elvis fans on forums like this one tend to be extremely close-minded about these projects and tend to crap on people who speak up and say that they do.

I am encouraged, however, by the "wait and see" mentality of a lot of the folks posting here.

My opinion has always been that these sort of "remix/overdub" projects are not attempts to "replace" Elvis' original music and to say so is to be disingenuous. These are a producer/musician/artist's interpretation of an existing work, a commentary on and inspired by the original works out of respect. Whether they are successful or even good are totally subjective and apparently many Elvis fans on this (and other boards) forget that subjectivity means there is no right or wrong answer, leading several would-be Elvis fans to be forced out of groups they would very much like to be part of and learn from about the man and his music.

Also, let's be realistic: Elvis's music doesn't sell in large scale numbers anymore. The average person doesn't care about a wire recording of a song, a minor hit, from the 1950's. It's a historical footnote of a footnote, a blurb on the evening news that doesn't justify an entirely new repackaging of the same music the umpteenth time over. As a bonus track somewhere, maybe. Our little Elvis world bubble is slowly shrinking and Sony/Graceland needs strong campaign to drive actual music sales via iTunes (where most "average Joes" actually buy music nowadays) and instead seem to rely on CD sales to a fanbase that is shrinking incredibly quickly. How do you expect the fanbase to grow if nothing new is tried or done? Elvis isn't the Beatles, he's at a disadvantage with hipsters and the millenial generation. They've got to do something but so many elder fans (and elsewhere within the Elvis fan community) seem to want Elvis' legacy to die with them. Economics make the world go round, and if money wasn't being generated, or something new wasn't being tried that kept the brand in the public eye - with projects like the Vegas exhibition or Graceland or new music projects... it wouldn't be profitable for the stakeholders at play here to even bother with meaningful releases in between like the Legacy Editions or FTDs.

Just my two cents. Like I said, I'm encouraged by the "wait and see" posts and my fingers are crossed.
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GibbersGanfa wrote:Also, let's be realistic: Elvis's music doesn't sell in large scale numbers anymore. The average person doesn't care about a wire recording of a song, a minor hit, from the 1950's. It's a historical footnote of a footnote, a blurb on the evening news that doesn't justify an entirely new repackaging of the same music the umpteenth time over. As a bonus track somewhere, maybe.
Elvis Today is merely a footnote from Elvis' later career that adds nothing to his enduring legacy, yet Sony bizarrely seems to think it is worthy of releasing a 2CD Legacy Edition on.

The 1955 live recording on the other hand, one that appeared out of nowhere and rather innocently, is a great find that needs to get out there. It makes sense that it would feature on some sort of Sun project, some of the most important recordings from Elvis' career.

I get your point in the wider commercial world but there is a core audience that keeps Sony releasing these things and it stands to reason a review of Elvis' vital Sun period would fit within that rotation and be the most likely vehicle for getting this recording out there, directly mastered from the wire.

Frankly, as a fan in 2015 I don't really care what official release it lands on, but it is an important historical recording within the Elvis oeuvre, concluding a period of time that is merely months away from the big explosion of 1956.

If another flash-in-the-pan remix project helps fund that somehow, then great, bring it on.



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It is a different music retail climate in 2015 than it was when ALLC was released; a duets project will have significant retail limitations.



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Steve Morse wrote:
GibbersGanfa wrote:
Moonchild wrote:Ive never heard of anyone becoming a fan of someone with newly overdubbed music..Elvis or anyone!!!
Well, not anyone who hangs around on Elvis forums like these. I can confirm this does indeed happen, and it generally leads those casual listeners back to Elvis' original music and that's what wins them over... and that Elvis fans on forums like this one tend to be extremely close-minded about these projects and tend to crap on people who speak up and say that they do.

I am encouraged, however, by the "wait and see" mentality of a lot of the folks posting here.

My opinion has always been that these sort of "remix/overdub" projects are not attempts to "replace" Elvis' original music and to say so is to be disingenuous. These are a producer/musician/artist's interpretation of an existing work, a commentary on and inspired by the original works out of respect. Whether they are successful or even good are totally subjective and apparently many Elvis fans on this (and other boards) forget that subjectivity means there is no right or wrong answer, leading several would-be Elvis fans to be forced out of groups they would very much like to be part of and learn from about the man and his music.

Also, let's be realistic: Elvis's music doesn't sell in large scale numbers anymore. The average person doesn't care about a wire recording of a song, a minor hit, from the 1950's. It's a historical footnote of a footnote, a blurb on the evening news that doesn't justify an entirely new repackaging of the same music the umpteenth time over. As a bonus track somewhere, maybe. Our little Elvis world bubble is slowly shrinking and Sony/Graceland needs strong campaign to drive actual music sales via iTunes (where most "average Joes" actually buy music nowadays) and instead seem to rely on CD sales to a fanbase that is shrinking incredibly quickly. How do you expect the fanbase to grow if nothing new is tried or done? Elvis isn't the Beatles, he's at a disadvantage with hipsters and the millenial generation. They've got to do something but so many elder fans (and elsewhere within the Elvis fan community) seem to want Elvis' legacy to die with them. Economics make the world go round, and if money wasn't being generated, or something new wasn't being tried that kept the brand in the public eye - with projects like the Vegas exhibition or Graceland or new music projects... it wouldn't be profitable for the stakeholders at play here to even bother with meaningful releases in between like the Legacy Editions or FTDs.

Just my two cents. Like I said, I'm encouraged by the "wait and see" posts and my fingers are crossed.
That's one of the most eloquent and intelligent posts on here in years.
This probably will be successful..only because they are going to promote the hell out of it!! If they promoted Legacy or other legit releases like they do this FAKE stuff..then they would be more successful too!! This will be successful because the people that bought Duets..Viva elvis..elvis plates & cookie jars and dolls will see it at Wal-mart..who claim to be fans but know very little..will think its the best thing just because it is promoted properly! There are more clever ideas they could come up with to keep Elvis's legacy alive!!! And yes I am one who says they cant stand it before its out..because I know already I dont like the situation! I would feel the same way if they did it to Johnny Cash..the Everly brothers..Roy Orbison..etc.



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This will be successful..whats next? Elvis rap..Elvis metal..Elvis jazz..Elvis techno.. Quit tearing the music to pieces with these desperate attempts!!!


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