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I bought this picture sleeve at a record store at my early stages of collecting Elvis..it was around 93/94 and I was 13. So i didnt know all the details of his releases..going by the bad picture they chose..I thought this sleeve was released after he died. To me it looked like they threw a rare picture on it to help sell it.. I was Shocked when I found out It was an original!!



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Well call me sentimental but i like Mama Liked The Roses becouse it reminds me of my own mother, and i just like it overall.
As for the cover design, eh i'm on the fence about it, it's not on my favorites list and those fake roses certainly don't help, but i do like the photo alone.

As for pairing the 2 songs on singles i think they should have been paired up like this.

Don't Cry Daddy / Mama Like The Roses

The Wonder of You / Let It Be Me



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Re: Mama Liked The Roses Single Cover

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The paperwork for "Mama" as the intended A-side looks convincing, but this song does have a strange history.

a) It was originally track-listed for "From Elvis In Memphis".

b) It was then dropped from the LP (did someone suggest it had single potential?).

c) It was passed over for "Back In Memphis".

d) It was (apparently) chosen as the A-side for a 45 which promoted (and featured a track from) Elvis' new live album.

e) It was dropped by deejays and the public to the B-side in favour of "The Wonder Of You".

Other thoughts:

I) It's my understanding the Chips Moman owned the publishing on "Mama" and I wonder if that had anything to do with the complexities bearing in mind the animosity between the two camps?

ii) Also, I think at this revitalised time in his career Elvis may have been calling the shots regarding singles, and he certainly loved "The Wonder Of You" having considered recording it before 1970.

iii) Maybe Elvis saw "Mama" as a companion piece to "Daddy" and insisted on it being the A-side?

iv) There has been some talk of the single being originally planned as "The Wonder Of You" / "I Can't Stop Loving You" but there's little in the way of concrete evidence.

v) It's interesting that one poster here observes that the picture would be more worthy of a Gospel single: Priscilla recently said that "Wonder" was indeed a semi-religious song in Elvis' mind.

Nothing absolute to add to the discussion, really, jut thought I'd chip in.



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George Smith wrote:Nothing absolute to add to the discussion, really, jut thought I'd chip in.
...you mean Chips in, correct :wink:




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I remember buying that single around Easter of 1970, and thinking the cover was kind of odd. Then again, RCA's art department always had sort of a weird way of illustrating Elvis LP and singles covers . Elvis For Everyone , Memphis to Vegas with the 68 comeback photo, the sleeve for I've lost You, the color of the Harem Scarum LP sleeve, the extensive use of B&W, etc . But these elements contributed to the mystique of RCA's release program. Those illustrations and color schemes are nostalgic pieces of the Elvis Legacy now
One last thing : I always thought that singles like Wonder/ Mama were meant to be two - sided releases with the different sides appealing to different markets - pop, country , MOR.



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In 1970 Elvis looked completely different. At least RCA should have used one of the promo shots for the movie THE TROUBLE WITH GIRLS (AND HOW TO GET INTO IT). A live photo would have been the best choice.



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A. C. van Kuijk wrote:In 1970 Elvis looked completely different. At least RCA should have used one of the promo shots for the movie THE TROUBLE WITH GIRLS (AND HOW TO GET INTO IT). A live photo would have been the best choice.
But they needed a pix with flowers in it so they could add roses and thus make a connection with 'Mama Liked The Roses'. It turned out being the last picture sleeve that wasn't a live shot.


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its a decent enough cover to me


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A terrible cover indeed, but the song is woeful as well.


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Juan Luis wrote:The cut outs on the picture sleeve showing disc is usually the front side or A-sides I have seen. There are probably exceptions. Haven't checked thoroughly.
That is the way I have always placed the singles in my collection, the cut-out at the front.



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Tony C wrote:
Juan Luis wrote:The cut outs on the picture sleeve showing disc is usually the front side or A-sides I have seen. There are probably exceptions. Haven't checked thoroughly.
That is the way I have always placed the singles in my collection, the cut-out at the front.
Like this 1970 U.S. sleeve?


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Tony C wrote:
Juan Luis wrote:The cut outs on the picture sleeve showing disc is usually the front side or A-sides I have seen. There are probably exceptions. Haven't checked thoroughly.
That is the way I have always placed the singles in my collection, the cut-out at the front.
Like this 1970 U.S. sleeve?


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No. That's the back side. It is very slightly cut off on top in straight line. But, the front is where the A side single "Mama Liked The Roses" is.




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Juan Luis wrote:Image

That appears to be a non-U.S. sleeve. You can even see no dipping cutaway from this view:


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Juan Luis wrote:Image

That appears to be a non-U.S. sleeve.
It isn't. It is mine.




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That's the U.S. sleeve, I've had it since 1970.

MAMA LIKED THE ROSES is the intended A-side.



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HoneyTalkNelson wrote:That's the U.S. sleeve, I've had it since 1970.

MAMA LIKED THE ROSES is the intended A-side.
Maybe!


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Image That's the flip or B- side of SAME (my own) sleeve/disc.



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Mine does not have the cut-out portion. Maybe it's "rare."


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
HoneyTalkNelson wrote:That's the U.S. sleeve, I've had it since 1970.

MAMA LIKED THE ROSES is the intended A-side.
Maybe!
Pretty sure the market made clear what the A side was if there is doubt. This seems another of Parker's Easter tie ins. Always the carney.


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Which one is the non-U.S. sleeve??? I can't see it!




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donwebster449 wrote:Which one is the non-U.S. sleeve??? I can't see it!
There isn't one.




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Thank you


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