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Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:03 am

Very sad to see something like this happen to a stadium...


http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/this-is- ... .sm2W58A7R

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:34 pm

Matt Ashton wrote:Very sad to see something like this happen to a stadium...


http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/this-is- ... .sm2W58A7R


That's bizarre. It looks like deleted scenes from "The Blair Witch Project".

From what I understand, this video must be nothing but an allegory of what's happened to the whole city in the last few decades.

Nothing lasts forever, I guess. Not even in the almighty Western World.

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:24 am

Actually, Pontiac is about 30 miles away from Detroit. The Silverdome was something of a crown jewel at a time when Pontiac was already a rapidly decaying suburb. I don't even want to think about what it might be like in Pontiac these days.

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - (Metro) Detroit

Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:05 pm

Hank wrote:Actually, Pontiac is about 30 miles away from Detroit. The Silverdome was something of a crown jewel at a time when Pontiac was already a rapidly decaying suburb. I don't even want to think about what it might be like in Pontiac these days.


Thanks for the correction, Hank.

I have looked it up and, yes, it's exactly 31 miles away from Detroit itself. However, it's considered to be part of what they call "Metro Detroit".

Thanks again.

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:09 pm

Those images could have been taken from the brilliant series Life After People.
The series comes highly recommended!


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Re: Pontiac Silverdome - (Metro) Detroit

Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:19 pm

Bob-Holland wrote:Those images could have been taken from the brilliant series Life After People.
The series comes highly recommended!


Yes, Bob, I have seen some of the episodes in that series and they are really interesting and well done.

I know they are available as DVDs. I may put them in my want list !

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - (Metro) Detroit

Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:37 pm

Mister Moon wrote:
Hank wrote:Actually, Pontiac is about 30 miles away from Detroit. The Silverdome was something of a crown jewel at a time when Pontiac was already a rapidly decaying suburb. I don't even want to think about what it might be like in Pontiac these days.


Thanks for the correction, Hank.

I have looked it up and, yes, it's exactly 31 miles away from Detroit itself. However, it's considered to be part of what they call "Metro Detroit".

Thanks again.

Pontiac is one of the larger Detroit suburbs, as it grew exponentially during the pre-WWII years when GM opened a bunch of auto factories there. Unfortunately, because of the factories, when the wealthier population fled Detroit for the suburbs beginning in the 1950's, they avoided places like Pontiac, and it evolved into one of Detroit's poorest suburbs. The Silverdome was intended to revitalize Pontiac, and putting a dome on the stadium was intended to attract the Super Bowl; unfortunately, as a tenant, the Lions were a substandard NFL ream for decades, seldom able to sell out home games, and when the Super Bowl was finally played in Pontiac in 1982, Michigan was in the midst of a winter which left many players, fans and the media essentially stranded in hotels with little to no nearby nightlife. (The media bitched especially loudly about Pontiac for years afterwards, resulting in Super Bowl after Super Bowl being played in southern locations such as Tampa and New Orleans with plenty of access to strip clubs and casinos; the Super Bowl wouldn't return to Michigan for nearly a quarter century, when it was played in downtown Detroit, providing much easier access to vice.)

The beginning of the end for the Silverdome as a concert site was when the nearby Palace of Auburn Hills opened in the late 1980's. Auburn Hills had been mostly farmland when the Silverdome opened, but as Pontiac continued to decline as one of Detroit's poorest suburbs, it generated suburban sprawl of its own, and Auburn Hills arguably developed into an upscale suburb of Pontiac.

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - (Metro) Detroit

Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:44 pm

Hank wrote:Pontiac is one of the larger Detroit suburbs, as it grew exponentially during the pre-WWII years when GM opened a bunch of auto factories there. Unfortunately, because of the factories, when the wealthier population fled Detroit for the suburbs beginning in the 1950's, they avoided places like Pontiac, and it evolved into one of Detroit's poorest suburbs. The Silverdome was intended to revitalize Pontiac, and putting a dome on the stadium was intended to attract the Super Bowl; unfortunately, as a tenant, the Lions were a substandard NFL ream for decades, seldom able to sell out home games, and when the Super Bowl was finally played in Pontiac in 1982, Michigan was in the midst of a winter which left many players, fans and the media essentially stranded in hotels with little to no nearby nightlife. (The media bitched especially loudly about Pontiac for years afterwards, resulting in Super Bowl after Super Bowl being played in southern locations such as Tampa and New Orleans with plenty of access to strip clubs and casinos; the Super Bowl wouldn't return to Michigan for nearly a quarter century, when it was played in downtown Detroit, providing much easier access to vice.)

The beginning of the end for the Silverdome as a concert site was when the nearby Palace of Auburn Hills opened in the late 1980's. Auburn Hills had been mostly farmland when the Silverdome opened, but as Pontiac continued to decline as one of Detroit's poorest suburbs, it generated suburban sprawl of its own, and Auburn Hills arguably developed into an upscale suburb of Pontiac.


You summed it up very well, Hank. Thank you.

What has happened to Pontiac is happening in towns and cities across US.

Detroit is the largest city in US history to file for bankruptcy, and unfortunately, they won't be alone.

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:09 pm

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/p ... -1.2052839

Photographer takes striking photos of abandoned Pontiac Silverdome
Johnny Joo, 24, snapped stunning shots of the former home of the Detroit Lions. The Ohio-based shutterbug has also captured haunting images of other vacant and forgotten structures in the Midwest.
BY Victoria Taylor / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS / Sunday, December 21, 2014, 7:14 PM

Johnny Joo

The former football stadium was also used for the other type of football — The Silverdome hosted a handful of matches during the 1994 World Cup.

Johnny Joo

The abandoned NFL stadium could once seat 80,311 people.

Johnny Joo

Johnny Joo’s photos show what the vacant stadium looks like today.

Johnny Joo

Super Bowl XVI was held at the Silverdome in 1982.

Johnny Joo

The Silverdome, which is located in Pontiac, Mich., was a popular venue for huge concerts in the '70s and '80s. The Rolling Stones, Elvis Presley, The Who, Bruce Springsteen and Madonna all played there over the years.

Johnny Joo

Johnny Joo visited the Silverdome in November.

The Pontiac Silverdome doesn’t shine like it once did.

The former home of the Detroit Lions, which also hosted rock concerts, a Super Bowl, World Cup matches and the Pope, is now a derelict site of moss-covered carpets and empty blue seats.

Ohio-based photographer Johnny Joo visited the abandoned stadium in November, and his photos show what remains inside the weathered structure.

Johnny Joo

Some of the items from inside the Silverdome have been auctioned off, but other were left inside.

Johnny Joo

Moss covers the carpet inside part of the Silverdome.

Johnny Joo

Bars inside the Silverdome were full of unopened alcohol, Joo said.

Johnny Joo

The stadium was refurbished in 2010 but closed again in 2012.

The Detroit Lions called the Pontiac Silverdome home from 1975 until January 2002.

“It's kind of crazy to see how much stuff was left behind, like all the old record of Led Zeppelin’s ticket sales,” Joo told the Daily News.

He also came across unopened alcohol at the bar and a list of demands from Van Halen that included a “no brown M&Ms” clause.

Something else that stood out was the carpet of a restaurant, which was blanketed in green moss “almost like it has been abandoned for 20 years.”

The Silverdome closed in February 2006 but briefly reopened in 2010 and hosted the occasional sporting event in 2011 and 2012 before shuttering again.

The Abandoned Pontiac Silverdome Stadium: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAKCNK5TAiE

"Architectural Afterlife"
Joo is known for his snapshots of vacant buildings. The 24-year-old from the Cleveland area was drawn to photography as a teenager.

He soon found his calling snapping photos of abandoned, forgotten or historical structures, which he then researches and writes about.

“It gives me a view into the past,” Joo said. “You can view peoples’ lives and how they lived.”

He now visits old houses, abandoned schools and other interesting places, usually with two or three friends.

“Once you are inside you are blocked from the world,” he explained. “Everything is so completely gone and empty where you are standing.”

His photography endeavors are mostly successful, aside from one failed attempt to photograph Mike Tyson’s deserted mansion in Southington, Ohio, that resulted in a court appearance and a fine.

Johnny Joo

Johnny Joo’s photography book will be published by Deeds Publishing in 2015.

Johnny Joo

The logo for ‘Ohio to Oregon’ was designed by fellow Ohio based-artist Tessa LeBaron.

Joo has compiled some of his stunning pictures of deserted structures in “Empty Spaces: Photojournalism through the Rust Belt.” The book, which is available in e-book form, will be released in hardcover in 2015: http://deedspublishing.goodsie.com/pre- ... johnny-joo

His next project, “From Ohio to Oregon,” is part traveling art exhibit, part “pay-it-forward” adventure with a friend and part off-the-beaten-path blog — all tied together with the help of artist Tessa Lebaron, who designed the #OhiotoOregon logo.

“We figured out all of these towns that we want to go to and see (along the way),” Joo said. “We’re planning to leave in April.”

Visit http://architecturalafterlife.com/ for more of Joo’s work.

vtaylor@nydailynews.com

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - (Metro) Detroit

Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:45 pm

Mister Moon wrote:
Bob-Holland wrote:Those images could have been taken from the brilliant series Life After People.
The series comes highly recommended!


Yes, Bob, I have seen some of the episodes in that series and they are really interesting and well done.

I know they are available as DVDs. I may put them in my want list !

I think it´s an awesome series!
And if I remember well, we als get to see the rapid decay of a stadium once people stop taking care of it, Yankee Stadium I believe.

Now that we discuss the series, I will give it a second go pretty soon!
:smt023

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:56 pm

WWE prolly lied about attendence record for WM III : 93k :smt002

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:25 pm

I remember watching the World Cup game on the TV - 20 summers ago, wow. I think it finished 1-1.

We were all Irish that year!

England played Germany there the year before as well. We lost, of course. David Platt bagged one and current US coach Klinsmann scored the winner.

Fascinating photos.

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:43 am

Unfortunately, the venue will be demolished next year:

http://www.freep.com/story/money/busine ... /74754746/

Pontiac Silverdome to meet wrecking ball

By JC Reindl, Detroit Free Press 8:50 p.m. EDT October 29, 2015

Demolition the key to a new real estate marketing strategy for the property's 127 acres.

Six months after hitting the market with a $29 million price tag, the Pontiac Silverdome is out of time.

The property's owner has shifted strategies and is now preparing to tear down the empty and battered 40-year-old stadium next year in the belief that the 127-acre site would be more marketable without the Silverdome than with it.

"It is going to come down," said Kristie King, a Southfield-based broker with CBRE, which is marketing the Silverdome property for its private owner, the Triple Investment Group. "We will probably start the demolition process in the spring."

About a dozen potential buyers have toured the Silverdome since June, but the prohibitively high costs to renovating the stadium proved a major obstacle to striking a deal. The Silverdome's inflatable roof, damaged in a 2013 winter storm, is now completely gone and its canvas shreds lie strewn across the ground and the stadium's 80,300 seats.

"Once the roof came down and the elements got to it, it just deteriorated too rapidly," said Robert Mihelich, first vice president with CBRE.

The goal of demolition is to make the land more attractive for future redevelopment, purchase or lease. A conceptual plan to be presented tonight to Pontiac City Council shows potential commercial, industrial, retail and residential development on the Silverdome property -- and no more Silverdome.

The plan's map depicts four light industrial buildings, a large corporate headquarters, a retail/entertainment complex, an extended-stay hotel, fast-casual restaurants and short-term corporate housing. One of the light industrial buildings would be built without a committed occupant in mind; the others could be constructed later based on demand.

"As we marketed (the site) over the past six months, the market told us what they want," Mihelich said.

Opened in 1975, the Silverdome has been used only sporadically since 2002, when the Detroit Lions NFL team moved to the new Ford Field in downtown Detroit.

Triple Investment Group, run by the family of Toronto developer Andreas Apostolopoulos, bought the Silverdome in 2009 at auction from the city of Pontiac for $583,000. The group also owns the Penobscot Building in downtown Detroit.

Triple Investment will be paying the bill for the Silverdome's demolition, Mihelich said, and the razing will likely take four to six months.

"We are preparing it to be a shovel-ready development project," he said. "It's one of the last large tracts of land left in the county on the highway."

Silverdome scrap and memorabilia ranging from scoreboards and seats to urinals and copper wiring were cleared out of the stadium last year in an auction that netted about $500,000. Small outdoor portions of the property's 127 acres are currently leased to a soccer league and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles.

The Silverdome site's conceptual redevelopment plan will be on display Friday at Oakland County’s One Stop Ready Community Showcase from 8 a.m. to 10 a.m. at the Oakland County Executive Office Building Conference Center, 2100 Pontiac Lake Road in Waterford.

The Pontiac Silverdome once was THE place to see big events. Nowadays, the venue north of Detroit is a shell of its former self and the current owner wants to cash in before it's too late, auctioning off thousands of items starting Wednesday. (May 1 AP

Silverdome facts:

•Opened in 1975, cost about $55.7 million to build.
•Had more than 80,311 seats.
•Home to the Detroit Lions from 1975 until 2002 and to the Detroit Pistons from 1978 until 1988, when the basketball team moved to the Palace of Auburn Hills.
•Hosted national events including Super Bowl XVI in 1982; the Michael Jackson Victory Tour in 1984; a 1987 mass conducted by Pope John Paul II; the World Wrestling Federation's WrestleMania III in 1987, and the 1994 FIFA World Cup.
•Sold at auction in 2009 for $583,000.

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:10 am

Maybe Bodie Mountain Express can do a "farewell" concert before its imploded, much like Paul McCartney did for Candlestick Park near San Francisco.

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:32 pm

:D Apparently (i heard in Sydney) Elton john opened Sydney's Entertainment Centre and is closing it too with a last concert in Dec 2015~! actually not such a bad venue and boy i seen so many concerts their over the years!~

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:31 pm

Here's an update of sorts:

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2017/03/29/ ... ilverdome/

Deal Reached By City, Owners To Demolish Pontiac Silverdome
March 29, 2017 12:55 AM

PONTIAC (CBS DETROIT) – There is a deal to tear down the Pontiac Silverdome.

The Toronto-based firm that bought the Silverdome at auction in 2009 with plans for a soccer facility has reached a deal to tear the dilapidated stadium down.

Triple Investment Group’s attorney Patrick Lennon says the deal calls for a contractor to be hired by May 12 to demolish the Silverdome.

The city of Pontiac ended up in court fighting the owners over building, safety and zoning violations – which led to a consent agreement signed Tuesday in Pontiac’s 50th District Court.

“We’re very happy that this was an amicable agreement,” Pontiac Mayor, Deirdre Waterman telling WWJ, “after years of owners owning this property, they were sold the property by the first emergency manager Pontiac had and it was only $583,000 — so that was quite a blow for the citizens of Pontiac.”

She says any future development of the property will be left to the owners, however, the area has been designated an “Entrepreneurial District” which Waterman says gives the owners a lot of flexibility.

The Silverdome was built in 1975, the Detroit Lions moved out 15 years ago in 2002.

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:22 am

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 917332001/

Wiring blamed in failed Pontiac Silverdome implosion

USA TODAY NETWORKJC Reindl and Allie Gross, Detroit Free Press

Published 10:42 a.m. ET Dec. 3, 2017 | Updated 3:51 p.m. ET Dec. 3, 2017

The Pontiac Silverdome was to implode at 8:30 Sunday morning. That did not happen due to a wiring issue claims the contractor on the job, Adamo. Mandi Wright, Detroit Free Press

PONTIAC, Mich. — A series of thunderous detonations rocked the Pontiac Silverdome early Sunday morning, sending up clouds of smoke and thrilling a spectator crowd of hundreds out to watch the start of the stadium's demolition.

But as the smoke cleared, a problem became apparent: the Silverdome was intact.

Officials with the demolition contractor, Detroit-based Adamo Group, confirmed that the explosions failed to bring down the steel columns supporting the Silverdome's upper level. The detonations — and anticipated collapse of the upper level — were to be the opening round for a year-long demolition project, which will mostly be done with hydraulic excavators.

Roughly 10% of the explosive charges did not detonate due to a wiring issue, said Rick Cuppetilli, executive vice president with Adamo. These unexploded charges were set up in eight key locations around the Silverdome. The precise cause of the wiring issue remained uncleared early Sunday afternoon.

"There's wires separated somewhere," Cuppetilli said. "We've researched it, we haven't found it yet, we're going to continue research, but it's not coming down today."

Cuppetilli said the columns could be taken out later this week — perhaps as early as Monday — by detonating the unexploded charges or by using excavators.

He said the demolition crew was unsure whether a Friday night trespassing incident on the property had any connection, whether accidentally or intentionally, to the failed detonations.

“We actually saw flashlights in there, security tried to converge, and they jumped the fence,” Cuppetilli told the Detroit Free Press. “They could have tripped over a wire when they were running away.”

Hundreds of people awakened early Sunday morning to drive to the Silverdome and watch the detonations, causing predawn traffic jams outside the designated viewing areas. Herman Moore, Eddie Murray and other former Detroit Lions came out for the spectacle.

"It was almost like when you’re going to a game, and all the fans are here waiting for you to pull in," Moore said of the crowd.

Former Detroit Lions players and the Mayor of Pontiac, Deirdre Waterman, gather on Sunday, Dec. 3, 2017, to watch the demolition of the Pontiac Silverdome. Mandi Wright, Detroit Free Press

The failed implosion was broadcast live by media outlets. It quickly became fodder for wisecracks on social media.

Pontiac Mayor Diedre Waterman, who watched the event from a viewing area, said Sunday's event could in some ways be seen as a metaphor for Pontiac — a city that, despite hard times, still refuses to give up.

“This is a little unscripted," Waterman said. "We’re listening to the demolition contractors and I think people got excitement, got a chance to share their memories and their nostalgia a little bit longer than we expected.”

The city of Pontiac had been pushing the Silverdome's owner, Triple Investment Group, to take down the 42-year-old stadium and make the site more attractive for potential redevelopment. Triple Investment Group is responsible for the demolition costs.

"We didn’t want it sitting here as a blighted property, because it’s going to be redeveloped, which is the best use for this valuable piece of property,” the mayor said.

For Adamo, Sunday was a setback following the company's successful demolition last month of the Georgia Dome.

A trio of Adamo employees who were watching Sunday's implosion turned to each other once the debris had settled. “That didn’t work,” they said.

Shortly after the detonations, a superintendent with SCM Engineer Demolition, the East China Township-based company subcontracted by Adamo for the blast, initially told reporters that the implosion was, in fact, a success.

"Sometimes this happens, but gravity will come over and it will do its job,” said Kevin Lindke, project superintendent for SCM.

But about a half hour later, Cuppetilli of Adamo said that not all the charges went off and that the still-intact columns must be removed.

If there was one person who may have been happy about the Silverdome’s failed implosion, it could have been Harry Arnold, the owner of Detroit Drone, who had been contracted by Adamo to film the event. Having filmed several of these, Arnold said demolitions were always sad for him to watch.

“So much was put into building it and it just comes down. It’s like seeing years just crumble in seconds,” he said, adding how to his ears, the exploding steel beams almost sound like screaming.

“It sounds like lobsters being put in a boiling pot, the steel lets out a high-pitched scream," he said. "It's definitely sad."

The Silverdome opened in 1975 and has been used only sporadically since 2002, when the Lions moved to Ford Field in Detroit. Triple Investment bought the stadium from the city of Pontiac in a 2009 auction for $583,000, but did not find a long-term user or buyer for the site.

The stadium has been in poor physical condition and lost its inflatable roof several years ago in a winter storm.

Perhaps the best seats to Sunday's action belonged to Greg Every, 54, of Plymouth, who hauled a set of four actual Silverdome chairs to the main viewing area.

"They're all original," he said.

The blue seats belong to a batch of 300 seats that Every and a friend pulled out of the Silverdome this summer, and that he plans to sell for $250 each at his store, FanaticU.com. The seats came from a section of the lower bowl where Every sat during the Lions' 38-6 victory over the Dallas Cowboys in 1991 to win the NFC Central Division.

"It was like the greatest spot we could be in the stadium," he said. "It was an unbelievable memory."

Follow J.C. Reindl and Allie Gross on Twitter: @jcreindl and @Allie_Elisabeth

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:39 am

What about When Elvis played there in 75 was there any in house video screens or filming done to any of the corporate boxes ?

I'm still confused why they built such a stupid stage for the Elvis show ?

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:29 am

relatives of mine went to the show. they said it was the highest stage they had ever seen.

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:21 am

Interesting DEH

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:42 am

OnTourCam on Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:39 am wrote:What about When Elvis played there in 75 was there any in house video screens or filming done to any of the corporate boxes ?

I'm still confused why they built such a stupid stage for the Elvis show ?


Not sure about video in the box area.. but on the stage, it was an innovative move to play in the round.
It’s the best way to get closer to the fans and often used today.

That said, building a tower high stage killed the effect but it probably had to be done that way since Elvis’ show had such a big group on stage.

Nice try but not a great success.
It’s good to hear mostly positive reviews from fans in attendance that night.
Elvis still delivered a good show given the challenging circumstances.

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:46 am

Elvis was not happy at all with the stage, he split his pants and gave a lackluster concert. But he desperately needed money because Graceland was put collateral for borrowing 350.000 $ from a Memphis bank.

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:18 am

I would like to find out more information about Elvis visit to this place .

1.Did Elvis Sound check ? i am guessing no ?

2.where did Elvis stay while he did the show ?

3.was there any news crews or press photographers on hand as it seems limited photos from this gig ?

4.Soundboard or multi track done from the show ?

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:15 am

I attended that show. I can tell you that being there live, we didn't feel it was a lukewarm show. I have the soundboard for that show, I'll have to pull it out and give it another listen.
As for the Silverdome itself, it's just a case with most older stadiums. the money's made with suites and boxes nowadays and the Dome didn't have enough of them in good parts of the stadium.
I saw Big and Rich there a few years ago when somebody tried to reopen it. That didn't go well.

Re: Pontiac Silverdome - Detroit

Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:19 am

vbgt on Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:15 am wrote:I attended that show. I can tell you that being there live, we didn't feel it was a lukewarm show. I have the soundboard for that show


You have what? and why didn't u offer this to FTD yet?