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Re: Where to Start

Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:10 pm

The best place to start is, save lots and lots of money and then go and buy all 5 original Sun 45's.

Re: Where to Start

Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:26 pm

It doesn't really matter (regarding the topic) if this is a put on or not, the answers can help any new fan who happens to pas this place by (I know it is prob. not many), but can also be used if someone will buy some stuff for a new fan. Anyhow, it is nice to see that the more sane members try to give some good advice anyway, instead of writing stupid/sarcastic/not serious (pick one or more) comments. I (also) personally think that the three box sets 50',60',70' is a great way to start, and there should be money enough to buy the gospel set "I believe" and the movie songs box set "Command performances" also.

Re: Where to Start

Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:33 pm

alanfalk wrote:It doesn't really matter (regarding the topic) if this is a put on or not, the answers can help any new fan who happens to pas this place ...


True. That's why my post is so worthwhile. Let's look at it again!


drjohncarpenter wrote:
jdw89 wrote:hey where should i start out with Elvis cds? i dont own any of his yet


You've signed on to to this forum owning not a single Elvis Presley CD? That's pretty amazing. Really amazing.

Anyway, being so bereft of the music made in such a long, varied and wonderful career, this is the collection you must get first:


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Elvis 75: Good Rockin' Tonight (Sony Legacy, December 8, 2009)

This is about as close to perfection for a "newbie box" as possible, a very well-done, career-spanning 4xCD collection.

It includes insightful, cogent liner notes, and you can get it for under $40:
http://www.amazon.com/Elvis-75-Good-Rockin-Tonight-Presley/dp/B002QVBP6O

Here's a kick-ass review of the above set, in case you remain unsure:
Robert Hilburn --> 'Elvis 75' Showcases King's Artistry
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=50096

Re: Where to Start

Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:33 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
alanfalk wrote:It doesn't really matter (regarding the topic) if this is a put on or not, the answers can help any new fan who happens to pas this place ...


True. That's why my post is so worthwhile. Let's look at it again!


drjohncarpenter wrote:
jdw89 wrote:hey where should i start out with Elvis cds? i dont own any of his yet


You've signed on to to this forum owning not a single Elvis Presley CD? That's pretty amazing. Really amazing.

Anyway, being so bereft of the music made in such a long, varied and wonderful career, this is the collection you must get first:


Image

Elvis 75: Good Rockin' Tonight (Sony Legacy, December 8, 2009)

This is about as close to perfection for a "newbie box" as possible, a very well-done, career-spanning 4xCD collection.

It includes insightful, cogent liner notes, and you can get it for under $40:
http://www.amazon.com/Elvis-75-Good-Rockin-Tonight-Presley/dp/B002QVBP6O

Here's a kick-ass review of the above set, in case you remain unsure:
[b]Robert Hilburn --> 'Elvis 75' Showcases King's Artistry[/b
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=50096


LOL, you know I don't really like you, I think you Are too fond/full of yourself, and you Are often rude to people and look down on other peoples taste in music, but the way you wrote this was actually funny, I got to admit, and made me laugh (Let's look at it again) :smt005 . This is not a sarcastic comment, I actually think your post was funny, so thanks for that.

Re: Where to Start

Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:56 am

alanfalk wrote:LOL, you know I don't really like you, I think you Are too fond/full of yourself, and you Are often rude to people and look down on other peoples taste in music, but the way you wrote this was actually funny, I got to admit, and made me laugh (Let's look at it again) :smt005 . This is not a sarcastic comment, I actually think your post was funny, so thanks for that.


You do like me, just admit it.

:smt007 :smt007 :smt007 :smt007 :smt007 :smt007 :smt007

Re: Where to Start

Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:53 am

Why do people think I am lying?

Re: Where to Start

Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:59 am

jdw89 wrote:Why do people think I am lying?


Clark Gable might know more.

Re: Where to Start

Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:08 am

In all honesty I am not lying, I have had some records in the past but never any CDs other than some compilations and I am not looking to get those I am looking to get all of his material slowly but surely I guess.

Re: Where to Start

Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:12 am

midnightx wrote:
Scarre wrote:
midnightx wrote:
jdw89 wrote:hey where should i start out with Elvis cds? i dont own any of his yet

Elvis In Concert.


How very funny. Pleeeeeeease tell as a "My Boy" joke...Please? You do know that that is what you are famous for here?

My Boy is no laughing matter. It is a tremendous track.


Finally midnightx brings a spot on, well thought out and insightful review of a "tremendous" song. In his review Mr. X exhibits a level of understanding of the core ethereality of music and moves right to its core to a song that indeed is musics very utmost proponent.

Mr. X is a stalworth example of those on the board that are "informed", and brings a level of intelligence, nay, GENIUS to the interpretation of a universally accepted masterpiece such as "My Boy".

We can all only decry out to the heavens that projects such as the upcoming "Loving You" tome are indeed a waste of time, while a proper doctoral thesis presented in voluminous leather bound / gold embossed deluxe volumes focusing solely on the song "My Boy" as performed by Presley awaits its day in the sun.
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Re: Where to Start

Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:26 am

elvisa wrote:
Scarre wrote:
Greg1995 wrote:
Scarre wrote:You should really start with the Essential Masters Box sets. Like this one:
http://www.amazon.com/King-Rock-Roll-Co ... masters+50

If you get all 3, you will own most of what he recorded in the studios. Not bad at all...



Yes, but these releases are old and the sound quality and mixes are rather poor comparing to the recent ones (Vic Anesini fantastic remasters)


Sure, not the best ones...but really, not bad at all...Really.


I agree Scarre......not bad at all, the sound quality is just fine, and considering the price, you`ll get a lot of great music for the money. Using the link below, you`ll get all three(50`, 60`and 70`nice box sets= 5 cd`s pr. set(15 cd`s in all) )(139+130+120=389 tracks ) for a total of $93.19.....all well spend if you ask me. Elvis recorded about 800+ songs, and I`m sure you can`t get the rest +/- ? 400 songs(I know a few are represented more than once in the box sets, but in different versions) for $93.13, so spend your money wise in the first place :wink:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008VI ... d_i=507846

I would say that those would make a really great start.(They did it for me about 10 years ago :D ) But jdw89, you should know that anyway you do it......there will be a loooong way to go. When you first get goin`, it`ll never end.....LOL. There are so many more.....endless titles of Elvis cd`s out there, so my advise would be.....take it easy and start to concentrate on Elvis` main body of work......Elvis world is a HUGE one, and only few can ever afford to own everything.
After the 50`, 60`, and 70`box sets, I would go for the FTD cd`s.....one by one. Do you know what FTD are?.......if not, just ask and people will be happy to tell you about what it is.

I know if I were you, I`d be rather confused by now from all the answers, but I sincerely hope you`ll find your way through the Elvis jungle......Welcome to the Elvis world at FECC and Happy new year.

P.S. And I`m sure you would want some DVD`s too........here you go, my best ones are

http://www.amazon.com/Elvis-Comeback-Sp ... ck+special

http://www.amazon.com/Elvis-Thats-Two-D ... _mov_img_y

http://www.amazon.com/Elvis-Aloha-Hawai ... rom+hawaii

http://www.amazon.com/Elvis-Tour-Presle ... _mov_img_z


The box sets are the way to go as they are unsurpassed in presentation and value (given a valuation consideration). Especially great is to get the long box versions that come replete with outstanding booklets unique to each set that provide a plethora of information pertaining to the material contained in each respective set.

IF it is one at all, the sound quality is not really a consideration unless one is an audiophile with high end equipment.

Playing many tracks from the first and second box sets and those that have been "remastered" in subsequent years on car stereos, iphones, computer speakers, tin cans with string, etc. is really an exercise in mind blowing nitpickiness, again unless one is using high end equipment, and has ears that can hear an ant walk.

As a sidenote, on the issue of sound quality and things being "remastered" not only for Presley but for other music as well, I think that material being presented ad nauseum in "remastered" form in the interest of the apex in sound quality is suspect to state the least. If anything the results are not usually revelatory, but rather a matter of personal preference and even at that the results are negligible. In some cases it boils down to "marketing" and the "power of suggestion". Yes, "they" are usually "pyschology" against you to "remove" your hard earned dollars from your pockets.

If you disagree with my assessments on marketing / sound quality "abuse", then perhaps I need to upgrade my tin cans and / or string.

qualifiers for midnightx :

Pro : "My Boy" - IS - included on one of the sets

Con (and this is a ridiculously heinous omission, but doesn't fall within the "framework" of the set) : "Yoga is As Yoga Does" is - NOT - included in any of the sets
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Re: Where to Start

Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:55 am

Are the Uk imports of those sets (the one's available on Amazon) full sets?

Re: Where to Start

Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:26 pm

jdw89 wrote:Are the Uk imports of those sets (the one's available on Amazon) full sets?

Yes, I have them. I had the original sets, but the Euro sets have smaller packages. What I do not like about box sets is the damned box! I prefer the sleeker booklet.

Re: Where to Start

Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:29 am

So the euro sets have the booklets?

Re: Where to Start

Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:38 am

jdw89 wrote:So the euro sets have the booklets?

Yes they do. What is missing are the CD inserts for each individual CD that came in the jewel cases, which have the track listings and descriptions. And of course the stamps.

Re: Where to Start

Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:18 am

jdw89,

Were you born in 1989? It never occurred to me that you were lying. Someone I know personally asked me a similar question not to long ago and I started her out with the Legacy sets because I wasn't sure which era she would like, or if she would like any of it. People in their twenties don't know anything about music of the previous generation. They can't distinguish 1950s music from 1970s music when they hear it. It's all the same mud to them. They don't know the history, and they have no sense of the chronology or the progression of music. She liked all of it. After she read Last Train to Memphis she began to understand what it was about. She loved the book and I think it made the music more accessible to her. I doubt she'll become a collector, though.

Actually, Dr. John Carpenter's suggestion to start with Elvis '75: Good Rockin' Tonight is a good one, regardless of whether you like him or not. It's a good suggestion for the reasons he gave.

Personally I would start you out with the Legacy sets.

1950s - Elvis Presley (with Elvis)
http://www.amazon.com/Elvis-Presley-Leg ... pd_sim_m_3

1960-61 - Elvis Is Back! (with Something For Everybody)
http://www.amazon.com/Elvis-Is-Back-Leg ... pd_sim_m_1

1969 - From Elvis In Memphis (with Back In Memphis)
http://www.amazon.com/From-Elvis-Memphi ... pd_sim_m_2

1969-70 live -- Elvis On Stage (with Elvis In Person at the International)
http://www.amazon.com/Elvis-On-Stage-Pr ... pd_sim_m_2

1970-71 - Elvis Country (with Lover Letters From Elvis)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00664 ... e=&seller=

Each 2-disc set has an explanatory booklet that will put the music into perspective for you, and into context regarding Elvis Presley's life. Each album is supplemented with related songs from the same recording session, and sound quality is excellent all around.The Legacy sets are also inexpensive -- downright cheap, in fact -- and the best buy in the Elvis catalog. You won't be disappointed in them if the music is right for you. After that, if you're still interested, you can dig deeper and start buying the other stuff.

You should also check out Elvis Presley's appearances on the Ed Sullivan show:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0029Z ... e=&seller=

Elvis' performances demonstrate how people did NOT behave in 1956.

My advice is to start at the beginning, in the 1950s, and work your way gradually up to the 1970s. The music changes and grows as does Elvis. Different things are tried. He goes forward into uncharted territory, then back again to his roots, and sideways into related musical strains, exploring different sides of himself and his music heritage. It's all good. Enjoy the ride.

PS -- avoid the 1960s soundtracks until you after you're grounded in the non-movie music.

Re: Where to Start

Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:41 am

skatterbrane wrote:
jdw89 wrote:So the euro sets have the booklets?

Yes they do. What is missing are the CD inserts for each individual CD that came in the jewel cases, which have the track listings and descriptions. And of course the stamps.

So there are no booklets with the cds?

Re: Where to Start

Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:35 am

You should ask ep35 about this.

Re: Where to Start

Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:40 am

jdw89 wrote:
skatterbrane wrote:
jdw89 wrote:So the euro sets have the booklets?

Yes they do. What is missing are the CD inserts for each individual CD that came in the jewel cases, which have the track listings and descriptions. And of course the stamps.

So there are no booklets with the cds?

There is the main book, but not the CD inserts that were in the original box's jewel cases. There are no jewel cases. What is funky about them is how the CDs are mounted in the box. They are on top of each other and to get to CD 3, you must remove CD 1 and 2 to get to it.

Re: Where to Start

Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:06 am

skatterbrane wrote:
jdw89 wrote:
skatterbrane wrote:
jdw89 wrote:So the euro sets have the booklets?

Yes they do. What is missing are the CD inserts for each individual CD that came in the jewel cases, which have the track listings and descriptions. And of course the stamps.

So there are no booklets with the cds?

There is the main book, but not the CD inserts that were in the original box's jewel cases. There are no jewel cases. What is funky about them is how the CDs are mounted in the box. They are on top of each other and to get to CD 3, you must remove CD 1 and 2 to get to it.

So the discs are stacked?

Re: Where to Start

Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:13 am

Can someone post pictures?

Re: Where to Start

Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:47 am

jdw89 wrote:Can someone post pictures?


No, time to get shoppin'!

You have received plenty of fine suggestions, mine the best of all.

Good luck!

Re: Where to Start

Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:03 am

jdw89 wrote:Can someone post pictures?


...here you go:
http://shop.elvis.com.au/prod86.htm#sth ... QPbkP.dpbs

Re: Where to Start

Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:29 am

JEFF d wrote:
jdw89 wrote:Can someone post pictures?


...here you go:
http://shop.elvis.com.au/prod86.htm#sth ... QPbkP.dpbs


$69. plus overseas shipping from Australia? No way.

He can buy it brand new and sealed on ebay for $30 plus free shipping:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ELVIS-PRESLEY-C ... 23338dedb0

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ELVIS-PRESLEY-T ... 20d7140d89

Re: Where to Start

Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:49 pm

It's even cheaper on amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/King-Rock-Roll-El ... _mrai_5_dp

Re: Where to Start

Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:13 pm

That was posted for the PICTURES he requested, not the price. Anyone with a little savy and resourcefulness can hunt down the best price on the internet.