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Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:35 am

Back in the 1970/80’s I had a collection of Elvis movies on Super 8mm from various sources. Before the days of home video the only way to obtain Elvis footage was to either film his movies from a TV screen or pay steep prices for rare footage available from other UK collectors and dealers (ie. Rex Martin, Compact Records). Regent Films in Blackpool later offered some great Elvis footage (Dorseys shows, movies, trailers, press conferences). Derann Films of Dudley were also great suppliers of Elvis movies on the 8mm format. Fifties TV appearances were imported from several dealers in the USA.

I also filmed many song clips from a TV screen and swapped live footage with other collectors all for screening to other fans and at many local fan club events. Any footage I filmed myself came on 50 foot reels and could be spliced together to compile a 200, 400 or 600 foot reel of song clips or even (as I know another collector has done) splice film from two cameras to put a complete movie together.

The maximum footage reel available for a Super 8mm camera was 50 foot (although 100 foot cartridges became available for certain cameras I think in the 1980’s) so if I wanted to make a reel of clips lasting longer than 3.5 minutes I had to splice all the reels together using either a special liquid glue or transparent paper splices.The film would then be sent to a specialist lab to have a magnetic strip applied down the side allowing audio to be dubbed onto the film.

I contacted the seller and he states this footage HAS 5 SPLICES. Work it out.

Super 8mm film shot from an amateur camera films at 18 frames per second while footage from a professional source or copied from professional footage runs at 24 frames a second.

This footage runs at 18 frames a second.

Further, the seller states it is not a contact print. Contact copying, while slightly cheaper to produce, leaves you with a copy which is extremely difficult to add sound onto as the magnetic strip does not always adhere to the surface of the film. Not a popular choice if you want to add music to the film.

While I cannot speak for whether the seller has made another Super 8mm copy (at great expense) or whether, as it seems, he has made a DVD/Blu-Ray copy for himself I would feel comfortable stating this appears to be an original piece of film. If it is a copy then each 50 foot of original film would have had to be copied separately (at even greater expense) before being painstakingly spliced together onto this 300 foot reel.

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:02 am

R2-D2 wrote:Back in the 1970/80’s I had a collection of Elvis movies on Super 8mm from various sources. Before the days of home video the only way to obtain Elvis footage was to either film his movies from a TV screen or pay steep prices for rare footage available from other UK collectors and dealers (ie. Rex Martin, Compact Records). Regent Films in Blackpool later offered some great Elvis footage (Dorseys shows, movies, trailers, press conferences). Derann Films of Dudley were also great suppliers of Elvis movies on the 8mm format. Fifties TV appearances were imported from several dealers in the USA.

I also filmed many song clips from a TV screen and swapped live footage with other collectors all for screening to other fans and at many local fan club events. Any footage I filmed myself came on 50 foot reels and could be spliced together to compile a 200, 400 or 600 foot reel of song clips or even (as I know another collector has done) splice film from two cameras to put a complete movie together.

The maximum footage reel available for a Super 8mm camera was 50 foot (although 100 foot cartridges became available for certain cameras I think in the 1980’s) so if I wanted to make a reel of clips lasting longer than 3.5 minutes I had to splice all the reels together using either a special liquid glue or transparent paper splices.The film would then be sent to a specialist lab to have a magnetic strip applied down the side allowing audio to be dubbed onto the film.

I contacted the seller and he states this footage HAS 5 SPLICES. Work it out.

Super 8mm film shot from an amateur camera films at 18 frames per second while footage from a professional source or copied from professional footage runs at 24 frames a second.

This footage runs at 18 frames a second.

Further, the seller states it is not a contact print. Contact copying, while slightly cheaper to produce, leaves you with a copy which is extremely difficult to add sound onto as the magnetic strip does not always adhere to the surface of the film. Not a popular choice if you want to add music to the film.

While I cannot speak for whether the seller has made another Super 8mm copy (at great expense) or whether, as it seems, he has made a DVD/Blu-Ray copy for himself I would feel comfortable stating this appears to be an original piece of film. If it is a copy then each 50 foot of original film would have had to be copied separately (at even greater expense) before being painstakingly spliced together onto this 300 foot reel.


Good points R2-D2 you know your stuff :smt045

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:24 pm

It doesn't convince me at all.

So I still don't know if I will go in or not

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:28 pm

I wait till the dvd comes out in a few weeks.... :lol:

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:46 pm

Phil wrote:It doesn't convince me at all.

So I still don't know if I will go in or not


I don't know what would :?

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:22 pm

:shock: wow E1,219 by bidder y***u(226)... interesting price.... hope it is all worthwhile to them~!

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:29 am

did someone out here get it??

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:21 am

Lucky seller,got a good price

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:27 pm

The wife wouldn't let me spend the money....

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:13 am

Wiebe wrote:The wife wouldn't let me spend the money....


you have a good wife then...;-) what is 22 min. of footage worth in food, that's more important these days.

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:51 am

sitdown revamped wrote:
Wiebe wrote:The wife wouldn't let me spend the money....


you have a good wife then...;-) what is 22 min. of footage worth in food, that's more important these days.


The winner don't think like that he will go all the way to get it, because some drink from the fountain some just gargle :-|

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:42 pm

I would imagine the buyer will transfer the film, then put the original 8mm back on ebay and then someone else will buy it for £1,000, do the same, etc, etc...... In about 10 years time, every Elvis fan would have 'borrowed' this original footage!! :wink:

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:45 pm

Tony.. wrote: In about 10 years time, every Elvis fan would have 'borrowed' this original footage!! :wink:



Even long before that, STAR would get their hands on a copy, have it nicely dubbed with proper audio from the same concert, then release it in a nice tidy DVD package.

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:06 am

TCB-FAN wrote:
Tony.. wrote: In about 10 years time, every Elvis fan would have 'borrowed' this original footage!! :wink:



Even long before that, STAR would get their hands on a copy, have it nicely dubbed with proper audio from the same concert, then release it in a nice tidy DVD package.


And add a few seconds from the Ed Sullivan show and some '50's stills over the top of parts of it! :roll:

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:16 pm

TCB-FAN wrote:
Tony.. wrote: In about 10 years time, every Elvis fan would have 'borrowed' this original footage!! :wink:



Even long before that, STAR would get their hands on a copy, have it nicely dubbed with proper audio from the same concert, then release it in a nice tidy DVD package.


if its released STAR would get it

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:39 pm

I have received today the digital conversion from the movie.

I have the digital movie in 2 type of conversion.

A high 2K scan that takes 260gb and a prores mode that takes 25 gb.

The 2K scan it's all the image of the movie in dpx.

The film is great.

It's 6 reels assembled together and it was filmed at different angles. It's not only one angle.

Here are some captures if it works.


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Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:49 pm

wow! thanks for this

if you can match all the angles in order and add sync sound...you'll have a masterpiece dvd 8) ....sorry a little envy here :oops: :)

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:07 pm

Thanks for posting! Looks great.
If a soundboard ever turns up, you can create a magical piece of 1975 concert film..

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:12 pm

WOOOWW! This is amazing!!! You must be very happy with this material!!!

Re: Cleveland Footage already at 1000 EURO LOL

Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:32 am

New to me do a deal realease it, this what we want ::rocks