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Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:35 pm

Yeah not quite YDKM, what for the warble at the end then a sharp curve ball - you'd think he'd trained Shane Warne with that toss:

Cricket - the real sport!
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Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:23 pm

Robert wrote:
Never seen that before and now suddenly even footage shows up?

Thanks for sharing..


You’re right, this is the first time that we see actual footage from the concert. His movements look a bit sluggish, almost slow motion-like.

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:45 pm

Rock Legend wrote:
Robert wrote:
Never seen that before and now suddenly even footage shows up?

Thanks for sharing..


You’re right, this is the first time that we see actual footage from the concert. His movements look a bit sluggish, almost slow motion-like.



Right, part looks like the ending of Jailhouse and there is hardly any movement.
Next to the soundboard another prove that this was an all time low and a full step down compared to College Park, where his vocals were way off, but he displayed quite some energy on stage.

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:51 pm

Robert wrote:Right, part looks like the ending of Jailhouse and there is hardly any movement.
Next to the soundboard another prove that this was an all time low and a full step down compared to College Park, where his vocals were way off, but he displayed quite some energy on stage.


I’d be interested in seeing footage from College Park. I don’t think I’ve seen any thus far.

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:15 pm

Hi Robert, its amazing you figured out the ending to Jailhouse Rock, and I think your right.

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:48 pm

Rock Legend wrote:
Robert wrote:Right, part looks like the ending of Jailhouse and there is hardly any movement.
Next to the soundboard another prove that this was an all time low and a full step down compared to College Park, where his vocals were way off, but he displayed quite some energy on stage.


I’d be interested in seeing footage from College Park. I don’t think I’ve seen any thus far.

worthwhile

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:58 pm

Rock Legend wrote:You’re right, this is the first time that we see actual footage from the concert. His movements look a bit sluggish, almost slow motion-like.

Really? If you watched the footage without knowing it's from the Houston show you'd probably find that it looks pretty much like most of the footage from the era.

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:06 pm

Pretty nice footage. After seenig some others from summer of 1976, I don't think that one shows "different" Elvis that all the others (from the period).

As for College Park, there was a really nice footage collector here, who said he has some materials from that shows, but was kindly kicked out for some reason.

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:10 pm

Rock Legend wrote:
Robert wrote:Right, part looks like the ending of Jailhouse and there is hardly any movement.
Next to the soundboard another prove that this was an all time low and a full step down compared to College Park, where his vocals were way off, but he displayed quite some energy on stage.


I’d be interested in seeing footage from College Park. I don’t think I’ve seen any thus far.


It's in private hands and we saw some of it during the three/four hour showing in Amsterdam.
Amazing quality, dubbed with soundboard sound (and the first show with the audience track)

Don't get me wrong, it was a puzzling show with Elvis in a strange mood but way, way different than the slurry Elvis we know from Omaha or Houston.
Looking at the footage you get the impression that Elvis worked pretty hard both nights with lots of movement and he had quite some fun as well.
But I have to be careful as some over here will think I'm trying to convince people the shows were great.. :wink:

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:28 pm

Robert wrote:
Rock Legend wrote:
Robert wrote:Right, part looks like the ending of Jailhouse and there is hardly any movement.
Next to the soundboard another prove that this was an all time low and a full step down compared to College Park, where his vocals were way off, but he displayed quite some energy on stage.


I’d be interested in seeing footage from College Park. I don’t think I’ve seen any thus far.


It's in private hands and we saw some of it during the three/four hour showing in Amsterdam.
Amazing quality, dubbed with soundboard sound (and the first show with the audience track)

Don't get me wrong, it was a puzzling show with Elvis in a strange mood but way, way different than the slurry Elvis we know from Omaha or Houston.
Looking at the footage you get the impression that Elvis worked pretty hard both nights with lots of movement and he had quite some fun as well.
But I have to be careful as some over here will think I'm trying to convince people the shows were great.. :wink:

This would explain why he was so short winded there :wink:

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:44 pm

Robert wrote:It's in private hands and we saw some of it during the three/four hour showing in Amsterdam.
Amazing quality, dubbed with soundboard sound (and the first show with the audience track)

Don't get me wrong, it was a puzzling show with Elvis in a strange mood but way, way different than the slurry Elvis we know from Omaha or Houston.
Looking at the footage you get the impression that Elvis worked pretty hard both nights with lots of movement and he had quite some fun as well.
But I have to be careful as some over here will think I'm trying to convince people the shows were great.. :wink:


Ironic that I was also in Amsterdam then, eating Chinese food together with one of the musicians who performed behind Elvis in College Park.

Thank you for describing the footage from those two shows. Hopefully we will all get to see it in the near future.

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:28 pm

Rock Legend wrote:
Robert wrote:It's in private hands and we saw some of it during the three/four hour showing in Amsterdam.
Amazing quality, dubbed with soundboard sound (and the first show with the audience track)

Don't get me wrong, it was a puzzling show with Elvis in a strange mood but way, way different than the slurry Elvis we know from Omaha or Houston.
Looking at the footage you get the impression that Elvis worked pretty hard both nights with lots of movement and he had quite some fun as well.
But I have to be careful as some over here will think I'm trying to convince people the shows were great.. :wink:


Ironic that I was also in Amsterdam then, eating Chinese food together with one of the musicians who performed behind Elvis in College Park.

Thank you for describing the footage from those two shows. Hopefully we will all get to see it in the near future.


That's a weird thought.
I can imagine the guys involved still remember those nights quite well.

Now that we have access to both College Park and Houston in both sound vision (at least some of us) I think Houston is by far the most devastating one.

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:59 pm

Last year, when the FTD people contacted us in connection with the “Sold Out” release, I asked Duke about the highs & lows of the ’74 tours. This is what he wrote about College Park (not used in the booklet):

What stands out about this one is, the first 20 or 30 rows back from the stage were filled with Washington dignitaries…..furs and jewelry as far as you could see….and EP came out in poor shape. He looked like he had just woken up and was slurring his words and not making a lot of sense when he did speak. The band was smokin' hot….but he was not. It actually was embarrassing and we all felt really bad for him. There was no denying that he was "altered".

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:27 pm

Rock Legend wrote:I've just uploaded a silent 8mm clip from the Houston Summit gig on YouTube. Thought some of you might want to see it:

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Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:22 am

Listened today to the Mobile 29th August 1976 Afternoon Show today.....compared to the day b4 it's 'passable' but only that....his version of THAT'S ALLRIGHT after the intros seems quite inspired but the overly lengthy intros kill the show enjoyment, still at least i could understand his performance in this show :?
the CD 'A MATTER OF DUTY' only gives the show in a sort of 'mediocre' 6/10 audience sound..but as i paid very little for the CD (10 Euros)+ had 3 nice bonus songs from Eugene in Nov 76' i figured it deserved to be in my audio collection. 8)

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:30 pm

I listened to this "concert" over the weekend, and can say nothing positive about it. What bothers me most is that many in the audience apparently cheered this train wreck, and no one in the band or in his entourage had the courage to confront Elvis with his situation. If ever there was a good time for an intervention, then this was it.

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:50 pm

ICanHelp wrote:I listened to this "concert" over the weekend, and can say nothing positive about it. What bothers me most is that many in the audience apparently cheered this train wreck, and no one in the band or in his entourage had the courage to confront Elvis with his situation. If ever there was a good time for an intervention, then this was it.


There was an intervention for sure.
No new afternoon shows were booked and Dr Nick was ordered to handle the situation going forward.

A different kind of intervention should have happened..
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Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:57 pm

ICanHelp wrote:I listened to this "concert" over the weekend, and can say nothing positive about it. What bothers me most is that many in the audience apparently cheered this train wreck, and no one in the band or in his entourage had the courage to confront Elvis with his situation. If ever there was a good time for an intervention, then this was it.


The audience cheered every train wreck in the 1970s, it was one of the pitfalls of Elvis' concert appearances. Many were simply happy to be in the same room with him. I have no doubt many members of this forum would have been cheering him along as well, such was the power of his charisma, even at the end.

It was not the place for the band or entourage to step in. Elvis' personal issues had been affecting his appearance and performances starting in 1973, and only increased over time. But Houston 1976 was a giant red flag, one which Vernon Presley and Tom Parker should have addressed. Neither did, things were swept under the carpet, and they all moved on.

In 50 weeks, the game would be over.

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:03 pm

Doc, like Vernon said to Dr. Nick in March 1977 when Nick put Elvis on IV's : "Do what you can"

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:16 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:
ICanHelp wrote:I listened to this "concert" over the weekend, and can say nothing positive about it. What bothers me most is that many in the audience apparently cheered this train wreck, and no one in the band or in his entourage had the courage to confront Elvis with his situation. If ever there was a good time for an intervention, then this was it.


The audience cheered every train wreck in the 1970s, it was one of the pitfalls of Elvis' concert appearances. Many were simply happy to be in the same room with him. I have no doubt many members of this forum would have been cheering him along as well, such was the power of his charisma, even at the end.

It was not the place for the band or entourage to step in. Elvis' personal issues had been affecting his appearance and performances starting in 1973, and only increased over time. But Houston 1976 was a giant red flag, one which Vernon Presley and Tom Parker should have addressed. Neither did, things were swept under the carpet, and they all moved on.

In 50 weeks, the game would be over.


I'm sorry Doc, but Elvis intimates other than Vernon and Parker bore a moral obligation to take action. When a man you profess to love fires a slow motion bullet at his own head, you run up and push him aside. No one did a damn thing except for Sonny and Red, and they were too late. I apologize for getting emotional, but listening to Houston 76 brought it all home for me.

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:04 pm

ICanHelp wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:The audience cheered every train wreck in the 1970s, it was one of the pitfalls of Elvis' concert appearances. Many were simply happy to be in the same room with him. I have no doubt many members of this forum would have been cheering him along as well, such was the power of his charisma, even at the end.

It was not the place for the band or entourage to step in. Elvis' personal issues had been affecting his appearance and performances starting in 1973, and only increased over time. But Houston 1976 was a giant red flag, one which Vernon Presley and Tom Parker should have addressed. Neither did, things were swept under the carpet, and they all moved on.

In 50 weeks, the game would be over.


I'm sorry Doc, but Elvis intimates other than Vernon and Parker bore a moral obligation to take action. When a man you profess to love fires a slow motion bullet at his own head, you run up and push him aside. No one did a damn thing except for Sonny and Red, and they were too late. I apologize for getting emotional, but listening to Houston 76 brought it all home for me.


No one knows exactly what band members could have done, but the plain fact is they only had access after 1975 to Elvis on stage. Nothing was going to be said there. One exception is stage assistant/jester Charlie Hodge, but he would never have said a word that Elvis didn't want to hear.

The only two people with enough gravitas to make any kind of impact did nothing except cover up, and that is a very sad fact.

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:35 am

Spot on Doc. Sad but true.

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:37 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:No one knows exactly what band members could have done, but the plain fact is they only had access after 1975 to Elvis on stage. Nothing was going to be said there. One exception is stage assistant/jester Charlie Hodge, but he would never have said a word that Elvis didn't want to hear.

The only two people with enough gravitas to make any kind of impact did nothing except cover up, and that is a very sad fact.


Hans wrote:Spot on Doc. Sad but true.


Here they are in September 1977 ...


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Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:58 am

BFF's ........

Re: Houston We Have A Problem.New Soundboard

Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:04 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:One exception is stage assistant/jester Charlie Hodge

Bit harsh. Charlie worked his ass off, never more so than on June 19th '77.