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Re: Elvis & Atlantic Records

Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:31 am

monkboughtlunch wrote:
mysterytrainrideson wrote:
I've always wondered how is career may have turned out had he have gone with Atlantic.



If Elvis had signed with Atlantic, here are two significant differences you would be experiencing with his catalog:

1.) The Follow That Dream Label would not exist as we know it. Atlantic stored it's masters in one storage facility -- but stored the alternate takes, outtakes and multitracks etc in another facility which unfortunately perished in a fire in 1978. So no alternates, multitrack live concerts etc would exist for FTD issuance had Presley been an Atlantic artist. Only Presley's masters would have survived -- and they would not have been able to be remixed by FTD as the multis would have burned in the fire.

2.) Presley's early 60s catalog would sound vastly inferior if recorded by Atlantic's Tom Dowd. Dowd pioneered an early 8 track recorder, but his late 50s / early 60s stereo masters are replete with hiss and overmodulation distortion. Contrast this with Bill Porter's superb early 60s (direct to stereo and three track safety) engineering which ensured a cleaner signal path and you will feel fortunate Presley was signed with RCA.


So if Elvis had signed with Atlantic near the end of 1955 we now would be complaining about Parker's lack of insight to sign Elvis with RCA-Victor :smt003

Re: Elvis & Atlantic Records

Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:20 pm

monkboughtlunch wrote:
mysterytrainrideson wrote:
I've always wondered how is career may have turned out had he have gone with Atlantic.



If Elvis had signed with Atlantic, here are two significant differences you would be experiencing with his catalog:

1.) The Follow That Dream Label would not exist as we know it. Atlantic stored it's masters in one storage facility -- but stored the alternate takes, outtakes and multitracks etc in another facility which unfortunately perished in a fire in 1978. So no alternates, multitrack live concerts etc would exist for FTD issuance had Presley been an Atlantic artist. Only Presley's masters would have survived -- and they would not have been able to be remixed by FTD as the multis would have burned in the fire.

2.) Presley's early 60s catalog would sound vastly inferior if recorded by Atlantic's Tom Dowd. Dowd pioneered an early 8 track recorder, but his late 50s / early 60s stereo masters are replete with hiss and overmodulation distortion. Contrast this with Bill Porter's superb early 60s (direct to stereo and three track safety) engineering which ensured a cleaner signal path and you will feel fortunate Presley was signed with RCA.


I don't care about outtakes that much. First of all, 90% of them are so close to the master, it makes no difference. Secondly, if we had better original material in the 60's would you really care about take 2 of Chesay? The whole point of being on Atlantic comes down to getting material to record.

Re: Elvis & Atlantic Records

Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:33 pm

Or 36 takes of Do Not Disturb or 38 takes of Shake that Tambourine.