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July 1963

Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:19 pm

Were there any UK number ones? Newbie here looking for gift ideas for an Elvis mad dads 50th!

Re: July 1963

Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:23 pm

Edin_Beauty wrote:Were there any UK number ones? Newbie here looking for gift ideas for an Elvis mad dads 50th!


"(You're The) Devil In Disguise" was apparently a U.K. #1 on July 4, 1963:

http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/_/elvis%20presley/

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:20 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
Edin_Beauty wrote:Were there any UK number ones? Newbie here looking for gift ideas for an Elvis mad dads 50th!


"(You're The) Devil In Disguise" was apparently a U.K. #1 on July 4, 1963:

http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/_/elvis%20presley/


I thought that was the release date in the UK, not the date it peaked.


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Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:27 am

frus75 wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
Edin_Beauty wrote:Were there any UK number ones? Newbie here looking for gift ideas for an Elvis mad dads 50th!


"(You're The) Devil In Disguise" was apparently a U.K. #1 on July 4, 1963:

http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/_/elvis%20presley/


I thought that was the release date in the UK, not the date it peaked.


The link indicates it was in its 12th week, and at #1 for this week only.

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:48 am

One site said it was July when I first checked and another said August so I thought you guys would know best.

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:07 am

"(You're The) Devil In Disguise" hit number one in the U.K. for a week on 3rd August 1963 [having been recorded in Nashville on May 26th 1963].

It stayed on the charts for a total of 12 weeks.

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:20 am

elvisalisellers wrote:"(You're The) Devil In Disguise" hit number one in the U.K. for a week on 3rd August 1963 [having been recorded in Nashville on May 26th 1963].

It stayed on the charts for a total of 12 weeks.


Where is your information from?

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:29 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
elvisalisellers wrote:"(You're The) Devil In Disguise" hit number one in the U.K. for a week on 3rd August 1963 [having been recorded in Nashville on May 26th 1963].

It stayed on the charts for a total of 12 weeks.


Where is your information from?

The same website you visited > http://www.officialcharts.com/archive-c ... 963-08-03/

12 weeks indicates the total weeks it spent on chart.

Always here to help!

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:36 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
elvisalisellers wrote:"(You're The) Devil In Disguise" hit number one in the U.K. for a week on 3rd August 1963 [having been recorded in Nashville on May 26th 1963].

It stayed on the charts for a total of 12 weeks.


Where is your information from?


Never mind. You are no help, as usual. The date I posted above is the date shown on the page linked.

Other sources show other dates:

According to these sites, Elvis' single was #1 in the U.K. on 8-01-1963:
http://www.worldcharts.co.uk/chartfeatures/uk1/uk60.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_1960s_UK_Singles_Chart_number_ones#1963

And, according to this site, Elvis' single was #1 in the U.K. on 8-03-1963:
http://www.sixtiescity.com/charts/63chart.htm

Now y'all know why I wrote "apparently" in my first post.

Given my research I would suggest August 1, 1963 was the date Elvis topped the U.K. charts.

And since that is just 24 hours past July 1963, Edin_Beauty buy your dad an Elvis CD with "(You're The} Devil In Disguise."

Always happy to help.

If any good member has a definitive U.K. chart archive site, please do share.

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:44 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
elvisalisellers wrote:"(You're The) Devil In Disguise" hit number one in the U.K. for a week on 3rd August 1963 [having been recorded in Nashville on May 26th 1963].

It stayed on the charts for a total of 12 weeks.


Where is your information from?


Never mind. You are no help, as usual. The date I posted above is the date shown on the page linked.

Other sources show other dates:

According to these sites, Elvis' single was #1 in the U.K. on 8-01-1963:
http://www.worldcharts.co.uk/chartfeatures/uk1/uk60.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_1960s_UK_Singles_Chart_number_ones#1963

And, according to this site, Elvis' single was #1 in the U.K. on 8-03-1963:
http://www.sixtiescity.com/charts/63chart.htm

Now y'all know why I wrote "apparently" in my first post.

Given my research I would suggest August 1, 1963 was the date Elvis topped the U.K. charts.

And since that is just 24 hours past July 1963, Edin_Beauty buy your dad an Elvis CD with "(You're The} Devil In Disguise."

Always happy to help.

If any good member has a definitive U.K. chart archive site, please do share.

Remember, it's 2 a day not 1!

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:47 am

elvisalisellers wrote:Remember, it's 2 a day not 1!


Thanks for the reminder. That makes your second rude post for today, you've fulfilled your quota.

Buh-bye!

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:15 am

According to the sticker on the cover of the single CD from the UK no 1 singles boxset it was no originally # 1 4th July 1963.


norrie

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:37 am

The official chart company though has it debuting at no 27 week 06 july

http://www.officialcharts.com/archive-c ... 963-07-06/

and peaking at #1 week 03 Aug

http://www.officialcharts.com/archive-c ... 963-08-03/

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:50 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
elvisalisellers wrote:"(You're The) Devil In Disguise" hit number one in the U.K. for a week on 3rd August 1963 [having been recorded in Nashville on May 26th 1963].

It stayed on the charts for a total of 12 weeks.


Where is your information from?


Never mind. You are no help, as usual. The date I posted above is the date shown on the page linked.



Actually he was of great help. The page you originally linked to shows the release date of each single, not the date in which it peaked. The page elvisalisellers linked to was the chart for the week that Devil was #1.

All of the sites you later link to carry secondary information, and are incorrect. The Offical site isn't called the offical site for nothing. But hey, if you'd rather trust second hand information on wikipedia, go ahead.

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:15 am

poormadpeter wrote:The page you originally linked to shows the release date of each single ...


No, the page I linked indicated the column as "Date" not "Release Date."

This is why I wrote:

drjohncarpenter wrote:
Edin_Beauty wrote:Were there any UK number ones? Newbie here looking for gift ideas for an Elvis mad dads 50th!


"(You're The) Devil In Disguise" was apparently a U.K. #1 on July 4, 1963:

http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/_/elvis%20presley/



But thanks, as always, for trying your best to derail yet another topic, just because I participated.

It just never ends.

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:21 am

The discrepancy between the August 1 and August 3 date arises because the Official Chart Company website follows the week ending on Saturday convention for all entries, even though this wasn't always the case. Wiki does a good job of explaining this:

"There are discrepancies in when a single reached number one prior to 30 August 1969. As of 2010 the Official Chart Company website lists all weeks as ending on the Saturday from 12 March 1960. However, the old Official Chart Company lists chart weeks from 19 July 1967 until 23 July 1969 as ending on a Wednesday, weeks from 10 March 1960 until 8 June 1967 as ending on a Thursday, and weeks up to 4 March 1960 as ending on a Friday. The week-ending days are taken as Friday for NME (before 10 March 1960), Thursday for Record Retailer before July 1967 and Wednesday afterwards, and Saturday from August 1969 when the BMRB were compiling the chart. These are the dates by which the charts are usually referred to and so are the dates used in this table".


So, "Devil In Disguise" was Number One for the week ending August 1 (ending on the Thursday), which the Official Chart Company now specifies as August 3 (week ending on the Saturday) on its website. To be pernickety, this means that the single actually hit Number One on Friday, July 26.

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:55 pm

To me, more important is that Devil in Disguise was the last number one song recorded by Elvis in UK in the 60's. Crying in the Chapel became number 1 in 1965 (the very last of Elvis in the 60's in UK) but this beautiful song was recorded before Devil in Disguise.

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:55 pm

jurasic1968 wrote:Crying in the Chapel became number 1 in 1965 (the very last of Elvis in the 60's in UK)...

Actually, "In The Ghetto" was Elvis' last U.K. number one of the 60's [in July 1969] on the prevalent [at the time] NME chart.

Re: July 1963

Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:43 pm

TJ wrote:The discrepancy between the August 1 and August 3 date arises because the Official Chart Company website follows the week ending on Saturday convention for all entries, even though this wasn't always the case. Wiki does a good job of explaining this:

"There are discrepancies in when a single reached number one prior to 30 August 1969. As of 2010 the Official Chart Company website lists all weeks as ending on the Saturday from 12 March 1960. However, the old Official Chart Company lists chart weeks from 19 July 1967 until 23 July 1969 as ending on a Wednesday, weeks from 10 March 1960 until 8 June 1967 as ending on a Thursday, and weeks up to 4 March 1960 as ending on a Friday. The week-ending days are taken as Friday for NME (before 10 March 1960), Thursday for Record Retailer before July 1967 and Wednesday afterwards, and Saturday from August 1969 when the BMRB were compiling the chart. These are the dates by which the charts are usually referred to and so are the dates used in this table".


So, "Devil In Disguise" was Number One for the week ending August 1 (ending on the Thursday), which the Official Chart Company now specifies as August 3 (week ending on the Saturday) on its website. To be pernickety, this means that the single actually hit Number One on Friday, July 26.


That's not true, about July 26th. The sales for the week are added up throughout the week, ending on 1 August. It couldn't have hit number 1 on July 26, because it's the sale from 26 July to 1 August that made it number 1. It can't hit number 1 before those sales take place.