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The Carolina Theatre - Spartanburg, SC

Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:49 am

Here's the first of a few venue pages I started awhile back and had the time recently to finish.
http://scottymoore.net/spartanburg.html

Maybe another after I dig out.
Jim

Re: The Carolina Theatre - Spartanburg, SC

Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:13 am

Very interesting informations. Thank you very much.

Re: The Carolina Theatre - Spartanburg, SC

Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:14 am

What you are doing with these pages is wonderful, Jim, thank you.

It's almost a matter of historical record.

Re: The Carolina Theatre - Spartanburg, SC

Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:25 pm

These posts really are outstanding.Thanks

Re: The Carolina Theatre - Spartanburg, SC

Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:31 pm

Just stunning work James!!

Re: The Carolina Theatre - Spartanburg, SC

Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:06 pm

JamesVRoy wrote:Here's the first of a few venue pages I started awhile back and had the time recently to finish.
http://scottymoore.net/spartanburg.html

Maybe another after I dig out.
Jim


As always, these pages are entertaining and educational -- if it all became a book, I would buy it immediately.

A few notes:

(1) The shot marked "Elvis and Red West with a fan backstage" shows a white box where the fan should be. And it looks like under the box is a hanging shirt, not a person.


560209_w Red West_Spartanburg.JPG


(2) The mysterious Martin D-18 guitar may not be so mysterious.

You note "In one photo said to have been taken backstage in Spartanburg, Elvis and Scotty are pictured posing with their guitars and Bill is holding what appears to be the Martin D-18 that Elvis used as an alternate guitar for the next several months. The origin of this guitar has never really been established ..."


560209_w Moore_Black_Spartanburg.JPG


Could this be the same Martin D-18 Elvis used in his New York portrait sessions with William “PoPsie” Randolph (Dec 1955) and David B. Hecht (Jan-Feb 1956)? You have a page on it:

Martin D-18 Studio Prop
http://scottymoore.net/NY_D18.html


551201_RCA New York_Martin D-18.JPG
At RCA New York - Thursday, December 1, 1955
Photo: William “PoPsie” Randolph


560129_Hecht portrait session_Martin D-18.JPG
At Caruso Room, Carnegie Hall, New York - January 1956
Photo: David B. Hecht


Yes, the pick-up is slightly different in the 1956 photos, but still ... Elvis could have kept this acoustic after the session with Hecht.

On a sad note, while researching this reply, I discovered that Hecht passed away just three weeks ago, at the age of 96, in Florida:

David B. Hecht | Obituary
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/herald/obituary.aspx?pid=162512024


Thanks again, James, for a great read!
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Re: The Carolina Theatre - Spartanburg, SC

Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:23 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:
JamesVRoy wrote:Here's the first of a few venue pages I started awhile back and had the time recently to finish.
http://scottymoore.net/spartanburg.html

Maybe another after I dig out.
Jim


As always, these pages are entertaining and educational -- if it all became a book, I would buy it immediately.

A few notes:

(1) The shot marked "Elvis and Red West with a fan backstage" shows a white box where the fan should be. And it looks like under the box is a hanging shirt, not a person.


560209_w Red West_Spartanburg.JPG


(2) The mysterious Martin D-18 guitar may not be so mysterious.

You note "In one photo said to have been taken backstage in Spartanburg, Elvis and Scotty are pictured posing with their guitars and Bill is holding what appears to be the Martin D-18 that Elvis used as an alternate guitar for the next several months. The origin of this guitar has never really been established ..."


560209_w Moore_Black_Spartanburg.JPG


Could this be the same Martin D-18 Elvis used in his New York portrait sessions with William “PoPsie” Randolph (Dec 1955) and David B. Hecht (Jan-Feb 1956)? You have a page on it:

Martin D-18 Studio Prop
http://scottymoore.net/NY_D18.html


551201_RCA New York_Martin D-18.JPG
At RCA New York - Thursday, December 1, 1955
Photo: William “PoPsie” Randolph


560129_Hecht portrait session_Martin D-18.JPG
At Caruso Room, Carnegie Hall, New York - January 1956
Photo: David B. Hecht


Yes, the pick-up is slightly different in the 1956 photos, but still ... Elvis could have kept this acoustic after the session with Hecht.

On a sad note, while researching this reply, I discovered that Hecht passed away just three weeks ago, at the age of 96, in Florida:

David B. Hecht | Obituary
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/herald/obituary.aspx?pid=162512024


Thanks again, James, for a great read!


Sorry, the caption got by me. I wrote the other one first, copied and pasted to that one but for got to edit out the part of the fan. The box is just a crop of the text George had in his book that didn't really apply ins this context so I cut it out. I had though of pasting a reduced image of the ad in its place but that could get taken out of context over time and as it propagated people might think it actually belonged there. Thanks for noticeing, i'll fix it now.

They are the same model guitar, Martin d-18 and probably of close vintage but the studio one doesn't have the same wear and in other shots shows the input jack in the body where it was drilled for permanent installation. Shot of the D-18 Elvis alternately used don't have that. Though the pickup could easily be removed a repair like that would be visible unless painstakingly done. The tortoise shell pattern on the guard doesn't match either which in many shots of Elvis' stands out like a white spot.

Here is a detail page on the alternate d-18
http://scottymoore.net/2ndD18.html

Re: The Carolina Theatre - Spartanburg, SC

Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:36 pm

JamesVRoy wrote:Sorry, the caption got by me. I wrote the other one first, copied and pasted to that one but for got to edit out the part of the fan. The box is just a crop of the text George had in his book that didn't really apply ins this context so I cut it out. I had though of pasting a reduced image of the ad in its place but that could get taken out of context over time and as it propagated people might think it actually belonged there. Thanks for noticeing, i'll fix it now.

They are the same model guitar, Martin d-18 and probably of close vintage but the studio one doesn't have the same wear and in other shots shows the input jack in the body where it was drilled for permanent installation. Shot of the D-18 Elvis alternately used don't have that. Though the pickup could easily be removed a repair like that would be visible unless painstakingly done. The tortoise shell pattern on the guard doesn't match either which in many shots of Elvis' stands out like a white spot.

Here is a detail page on the alternate d-18
http://scottymoore.net/2ndD18.html


Interesting! Well, at the very least, Elvis grew to appreciate the D-18 from those photo sessions. I wish I had one!

Re: The Carolina Theatre - Spartanburg, SC

Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:42 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:Interesting! Well, at the very least, Elvis grew to appreciate the D-18 from those photo sessions. I wish I had one!


I have one, the one pictured on the alternate detail page. I played it a lot when I first got it, but it stays in the case most of the time now like all the others. Have to clean house one of these days.
http://www.pbase.com/jroy/d18

Re: The Carolina Theatre - Spartanburg, SC

Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:52 pm

JamesVRoy wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:Interesting! Well, at the very least, Elvis grew to appreciate the D-18 from those photo sessions. I wish I had one!


I have one, the one pictured on the alternate detail page. I played it a lot when I first got it, but it stays in the case most of the time now like all the others. Have to clean house one of these days.
http://www.pbase.com/jroy/d18


Kurt Cobain's D-18 sold for $42,500:

Kurt Cobain's 1953 Martin Acoustic Guitar
http://www.liveauctionworld.com/Kurt-Cobain-s-1953-Martin-Acoustic-Guitar_i5971533

Is yours in that neighborhood?

Re: The Carolina Theatre - Spartanburg, SC

Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:51 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:
JamesVRoy wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:Interesting! Well, at the very least, Elvis grew to appreciate the D-18 from those photo sessions. I wish I had one!


I have one, the one pictured on the alternate detail page. I played it a lot when I first got it, but it stays in the case most of the time now like all the others. Have to clean house one of these days.
http://www.pbase.com/jroy/d18


Kurt Cobain's D-18 sold for $42,500:

Kurt Cobain's 1953 Martin Acoustic Guitar
http://www.liveauctionworld.com/Kurt-Cobain-s-1953-Martin-Acoustic-Guitar_i5971533

Is yours in that neighborhood?


No, that's inflated because of the celebrity status. Mine's worth maybe $6-7K depending on the market. They've only gone up over time but its hard to tell how long the trend will continue.

Re: The Carolina Theatre - Spartanburg, SC

Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:35 am

$7,000 for an acoustic, wow!

Re: The Carolina Theatre - Spartanburg, SC

Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:57 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:$7,000 for an acoustic, wow!


Vintage Martin. If it was a D-28 it would be more. You can get new ones though for about $1500 or so. Thank the Paul Allens and Guitar Centers of the world. The ones with more money than they know what to do with that pay the exhorbitant prices for Hendrix's and Clapton's guitars which just drives the price up on the rest.