Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:14 am
poormadpeter wrote:chris j wrote:He wasn't out of control. He changed from apparent anger to the tenderness of the Hawaiian Wedding Song as if he was turning a switch on and off. He had prepared his show of anger, he was going to shake people up on purpose, thus he did it more than once in successive shows. This is not uncharacteristic Elvis strategy, as we know - many examples throughout his general biography. You had to be there to see how he was, to see his face and intentions, which you can't get from the CDs.
Preparing to do what he did makes it somehow worse. It wasn';t an outburst of anger that suddenly took control of him that day - he had planned it all, thinking it was the right thing to do!
Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:45 am
Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:15 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:Elvis was a prideful person, and the rumours that caught his attention hurt. And certainly part of his grossly inappropriate stage behavior at the show in question was due to the fact that he knew that -- to a certain extent -- it was true.
Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:02 am
Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:10 pm
Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:58 pm
ekenee wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:Elvis was a prideful person, and the rumours that caught his attention hurt. And certainly part of his grossly inappropriate stage behavior at the show in question was due to the fact that he knew that -- to a certain extent -- it was true.
He knew he was strung out on heroin??
Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:12 pm
Mister Mike wrote:ekenee wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:Elvis was a prideful person, and the rumours that caught his attention hurt. And certainly part of his grossly inappropriate stage behavior at the show in question was due to the fact that he knew that -- to a certain extent -- it was true.
He knew he was strung out on heroin??
Did you miss the to a certain extent part?
Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:54 pm
dhornjr1 wrote:elvis-fan wrote:YDKM wrote:Its highly embarressing how he carried on that night and to a lesser extent the previous nights midnight show...if he'd just left it at the statement' that all the stuff you read in movie magazines is all Junk'... and stopped their- that would have been 'ok' but he went way over the top for pretty much ALL of his 'behavour'-cars,karate etc shows,.....all through September 1974. very sad time for being an Elvis Fan
To me, the worst part of that evening wasn't his "drug speech" but his carrying on with Priscilla... that stuff had to be embarrassing for everyone present...
Yeah. Like when he's singing "It's Midnight" and in the middle of the song he says, "Listen Cilla" and goes into:
"Where is all my self-control? I'm burning way down in my soul and needing you. Wishing I could be the man I try to. Hating me for wanting to be with you. Knowing you don't love me like you used to. But it's midnight and I miss you".
Obviously singing directly to her, you know. All with Sheila Ryan sitting in the same booth with Priscilla. I'm sure that wasn't awkward at all.
Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:33 pm
eligain wrote:dhornjr1 wrote:elvis-fan wrote:YDKM wrote:Its highly embarressing how he carried on that night and to a lesser extent the previous nights midnight show...if he'd just left it at the statement' that all the stuff you read in movie magazines is all Junk'... and stopped their- that would have been 'ok' but he went way over the top for pretty much ALL of his 'behavour'-cars,karate etc shows,.....all through September 1974. very sad time for being an Elvis Fan
To me, the worst part of that evening wasn't his "drug speech" but his carrying on with Priscilla... that stuff had to be embarrassing for everyone present...
Yeah. Like when he's singing "It's Midnight" and in the middle of the song he says, "Listen Cilla" and goes into:
"Where is all my self-control? I'm burning way down in my soul and needing you. Wishing I could be the man I try to. Hating me for wanting to be with you. Knowing you don't love me like you used to. But it's midnight and I miss you".
Obviously singing directly to her, you know. All with Sheila Ryan sitting in the same booth with Priscilla. I'm sure that wasn't awkward at all.
I wasn't there to see who he was singing to but it's possible he said, "listen Cilla" just because he noticed she was talking and not paying attention, not because he wanted her to hear that particular verse of the song. Of course it's just as possible he did want her to hear that verse. It's just hard to tell without seeing his body language and actions.
Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:52 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:eligain wrote:dhornjr1 wrote:elvis-fan wrote:YDKM wrote:Its highly embarressing how he carried on that night and to a lesser extent the previous nights midnight show...if he'd just left it at the statement' that all the stuff you read in movie magazines is all Junk'... and stopped their- that would have been 'ok' but he went way over the top for pretty much ALL of his 'behavour'-cars,karate etc shows,.....all through September 1974. very sad time for being an Elvis Fan
To me, the worst part of that evening wasn't his "drug speech" but his carrying on with Priscilla... that stuff had to be embarrassing for everyone present...
Yeah. Like when he's singing "It's Midnight" and in the middle of the song he says, "Listen Cilla" and goes into:
"Where is all my self-control? I'm burning way down in my soul and needing you. Wishing I could be the man I try to. Hating me for wanting to be with you. Knowing you don't love me like you used to. But it's midnight and I miss you".
Obviously singing directly to her, you know. All with Sheila Ryan sitting in the same booth with Priscilla. I'm sure that wasn't awkward at all.
I wasn't there to see who he was singing to but it's possible he said, "listen Cilla" just because he noticed she was talking and not paying attention, not because he wanted her to hear that particular verse of the song. Of course it's just as possible he did want her to hear that verse. It's just hard to tell without seeing his body language and actions.
This is a wind-up, yes?
Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:01 pm
eligain wrote:YDKM wrote:Yeah. Like when he's singing "It's Midnight" and in the middle of the song he says, "Listen Cilla" and goes into:
"Where is all my self-control? I'm burning way down in my soul and needing you. Wishing I could be the man I try to. Hating me for wanting to be with you. Knowing you don't love me like you used to. But it's midnight and I miss you".
Obviously singing directly to her, you know. All with Sheila Ryan sitting in the same booth with Priscilla. I'm sure that wasn't awkward at all.
I wasn't there to see who he was singing to but it's possible he said, "listen Cilla" just because he noticed she was talking and not paying attention, not because he wanted her to hear that particular verse of the song. Of course it's just as possible he did want her to hear that verse. It's just hard to tell without seeing his body language and actions.
Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:23 pm
elvis-fan wrote:eligain wrote:I wasn't there to see who he was singing to but it's possible he said, "listen Cilla" just because he noticed she was talking and not paying attention, not because he wanted her to hear that particular verse of the song. Of course it's just as possible he did want her to hear that verse. It's just hard to tell without seeing his body language and actions.
No it's not... it's quite obvious he was singing to Priscilla. During that song wasn't the only time he referred to her that evening...
Priscilla was beside herself. "I was in shock. Because [in the past] he would never, ever let on to the audience what his emotions were. You know, singing was always his way of venting his emotions, how he felt about something -- and he'd get onstage and sing his heart out. Any song, any given song, you know, he wold beat it to death, with more emotion and more energy -- but he never let it out in public. This was [so] out of character, for someone who had so much pride, you know -- everything that he was against, he was displaying. It was like watching a different person."
Peter Guralnick, Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley (New York: Little, Brown, January 8, 1999), p. 544
Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:10 am
Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:48 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:elvis-fan wrote:eligain wrote:I wasn't there to see who he was singing to but it's possible he said, "listen Cilla" just because he noticed she was talking and not paying attention, not because he wanted her to hear that particular verse of the song. Of course it's just as possible he did want her to hear that verse. It's just hard to tell without seeing his body language and actions.
No it's not... it's quite obvious he was singing to Priscilla. During that song wasn't the only time he referred to her that evening...
Correct.
One listen to the entire show makes this clear, not to mention Priscilla's memory of the evening.Priscilla was beside herself. "I was in shock. Because [in the past] he would never, ever let on to the audience what his emotions were. You know, singing was always his way of venting his emotions, how he felt about something -- and he'd get onstage and sing his heart out. Any song, any given song, you know, he wold beat it to death, with more emotion and more energy -- but he never let it out in public. This was [so] out of character, for someone who had so much pride, you know -- everything that he was against, he was displaying. It was like watching a different person."
Peter Guralnick, Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley (New York: Little, Brown, January 8, 1999), p. 544
Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:58 am
Lonely Summer wrote:If Parker had allowed his client to do an occasional interview, maybe Elvis could have taken his story to one of the entertainment magazines (maybe one of the g***d*** movie mags he loved so much) instead of ranting onstage.
Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:41 am
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