Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:37 am
Alexander wrote:One can even wonder: was he aware it was June 18th and not December 18th? Pictures, footage and audio from 76-77 makes me sad, really sad.
Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:38 am
Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:39 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:elvisjock wrote:He was bloated in Kansas City much as he was in Hollywood, FL, earlier in the year. He just didn't appear as sweaty and disheveled in Kansas City.
Dr. John, please clarify your statement about the corset from the fall tour. What were the pitfalls? While he may have been wearing his "brace," as he called it, he also had dropped quite a bit of weight. It showed in his face, in a very bad way. He started to look like a meth addict.
The photos certainly look far worse on February 12, but that doesn't make June 18 seem any better. This June tour may've been the one where bodyguards Dick Grob and Sam Thompson made contingency plans if Elvis died while on tour. That's how bad it was.
The main reason Elvis dropped the use of the corset in October 1976 was it constricted his breathing, and he felt he couldn't sing comfortably.
Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:59 am
Jokerlola wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:elvisjock wrote:He was bloated in Kansas City much as he was in Hollywood, FL, earlier in the year. He just didn't appear as sweaty and disheveled in Kansas City.
Dr. John, please clarify your statement about the corset from the fall tour. What were the pitfalls? While he may have been wearing his "brace," as he called it, he also had dropped quite a bit of weight. It showed in his face, in a very bad way. He started to look like a meth addict.
The photos certainly look far worse on February 12, but that doesn't make June 18 seem any better. This June tour may've been the one where bodyguards Dick Grob and Sam Thompson made contingency plans if Elvis died while on tour. That's how bad it was.
The main reason Elvis dropped the use of the corset in October 1976 was it constricted his breathing, and he felt he couldn't sing comfortably.
Any pictures of shows he was wearing the corset in?
Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:26 am
Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:37 am
rickeap wrote:I did have suspicions that he was wearing a corset on 18-6-77 (he certainly seems trimmer than the next night and the suit is ultra tight) but I can't see evidence on those October '76 photos, especially the top photo where we can see a lot of his stomach.
Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:11 am
jungleroombear wrote:rickeap wrote:I did have suspicions that he was wearing a corset on 18-6-77 (he certainly seems trimmer than the next night and the suit is ultra tight) but I can't see evidence on those October '76 photos, especially the top photo where we can see a lot of his stomach.
He looks healthier and his face is thinner. If only he was like that in June 77.
Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:37 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:Jokerlola wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:elvisjock wrote:He was bloated in Kansas City much as he was in Hollywood, FL, earlier in the year. He just didn't appear as sweaty and disheveled in Kansas City.
Dr. John, please clarify your statement about the corset from the fall tour. What were the pitfalls? While he may have been wearing his "brace," as he called it, he also had dropped quite a bit of weight. It showed in his face, in a very bad way. He started to look like a meth addict.
The photos certainly look far worse on February 12, but that doesn't make June 18 seem any better. This June tour may've been the one where bodyguards Dick Grob and Sam Thompson made contingency plans if Elvis died while on tour. That's how bad it was.
The main reason Elvis dropped the use of the corset in October 1976 was it constricted his breathing, and he felt he couldn't sing comfortably.
Any pictures of shows he was wearing the corset in?
Elvis was wearing one in Dayton, Ohio on October 26, 1976:
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Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:31 am
Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:35 am
Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:43 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:Alexander wrote:One can even wonder: was he aware it was June 18th and not December 18th? Pictures, footage and audio from 76-77 makes me sad, really sad.
Elvis was acutely aware of the impending CBS-TV videotape cameras, and spoke to Ed Parker about them as he drove to the Omaha show the next day. He may have even been informed the house lights would be up, in order to better capture the show.
His quiet panic may have been the reason behind his demeanor and appearance in both Kansas City and Omaha. There was nowhere to run to, baby, nowhere to hide.
And to think Presley didn't even have a day off after Omaha. On 6-20-1977 he was in Lincoln, doing another evening performance. Management's insensitivity to their talent knew no boundaries in the middle of 1977. With hindsight, it is even more galling. Parker was riding this horse until it dropped.
Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:48 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:Jokerlola wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:elvisjock wrote:He was bloated in Kansas City much as he was in Hollywood, FL, earlier in the year. He just didn't appear as sweaty and disheveled in Kansas City.
Dr. John, please clarify your statement about the corset from the fall tour. What were the pitfalls? While he may have been wearing his "brace," as he called it, he also had dropped quite a bit of weight. It showed in his face, in a very bad way. He started to look like a meth addict.
The photos certainly look far worse on February 12, but that doesn't make June 18 seem any better. This June tour may've been the one where bodyguards Dick Grob and Sam Thompson made contingency plans if Elvis died while on tour. That's how bad it was.
The main reason Elvis dropped the use of the corset in October 1976 was it constricted his breathing, and he felt he couldn't sing comfortably.
Any pictures of shows he was wearing the corset in?
Elvis was wearing one in Dayton, Ohio on October 26, 1976:
Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:11 pm
Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:52 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:elvisjock wrote:He was bloated in Kansas City much as he was in Hollywood, FL, earlier in the year. He just didn't appear as sweaty and disheveled in Kansas City.
Dr. John, please clarify your statement about the corset from the fall tour. What were the pitfalls? While he may have been wearing his "brace," as he called it, he also had dropped quite a bit of weight. It showed in his face, in a very bad way. He started to look like a meth addict.
The photos certainly look far worse on February 12, but that doesn't make June 18 seem any better. This June tour may've been the one where bodyguards Dick Grob and Sam Thompson made contingency plans if Elvis died while on tour. That's how bad it was.
The main reason Elvis dropped the use of the corset in October 1976 was it constricted his breathing, and he felt he couldn't sing comfortably.
Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:22 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:Alexander wrote:One can even wonder: was he aware it was June 18th and not December 18th? Pictures, footage and audio from 76-77 makes me sad, really sad.
Elvis was acutely aware of the impending CBS-TV videotape cameras, and spoke to Ed Parker about them as he drove to the Omaha show the next day. He may have even been informed the house lights would be up, in order to better capture the show.
His quiet panic may have been the reason behind his demeanor and appearance in both Kansas City and Omaha. There was nowhere to run to, baby, nowhere to hide.
And to think Presley didn't even have a day off after Omaha. On 6-20-1977 he was in Lincoln, doing another evening performance. Management's insensitivity to their talent knew no boundaries in the middle of 1977. With hindsight, it is even more galling. Parker was riding this horse until it dropped.
Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:51 pm
Xaykev wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:Jokerlola wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:elvisjock wrote:He was bloated in Kansas City much as he was in Hollywood, FL, earlier in the year. He just didn't appear as sweaty and disheveled in Kansas City.
Dr. John, please clarify your statement about the corset from the fall tour. What were the pitfalls? While he may have been wearing his "brace," as he called it, he also had dropped quite a bit of weight. It showed in his face, in a very bad way. He started to look like a meth addict.
The photos certainly look far worse on February 12, but that doesn't make June 18 seem any better. This June tour may've been the one where bodyguards Dick Grob and Sam Thompson made contingency plans if Elvis died while on tour. That's how bad it was.
The main reason Elvis dropped the use of the corset in October 1976 was it constricted his breathing, and he felt he couldn't sing comfortably.
Any pictures of shows he was wearing the corset in?
Elvis was wearing one in Dayton, Ohio on October 26, 1976:
I highly doubt that Elvis was using a corset in these pictures. This was the same time when he surprised Ed Parker, and proudly stepped outside of his hotel room to greet him to show how many kilos he had lost.
Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:44 pm
dreambear wrote:The contingency plans is new for me, Doc. Do you know more about this? I also like to thank you for sharing your knowledge and at the same time being rather entertaining at times.
Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:42 pm
Alexander wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:Elvis was acutely aware of the impending CBS-TV videotape cameras, and spoke to Ed Parker about them as he drove to the Omaha show the next day. He may have even been informed the house lights would be up, in order to better capture the show.
His quiet panic may have been the reason behind his demeanor and appearance in both Kansas City and Omaha. There was nowhere to run to, baby, nowhere to hide.
And to think Presley didn't even have a day off after Omaha. On 6-20-1977 he was in Lincoln, doing another evening performance. Management's insensitivity to their talent knew no boundaries in the middle of 1977. With hindsight, it is even more galling. Parker was riding this horse until it dropped.
Beautifully spoken and sad but true, although Parker may have seen this differently: "The boy is out of control" he is quoted saying about Elvis in 1977.
Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:51 pm
dreambear wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:The photos certainly look far worse on February 12, but that doesn't make June 18 seem any better. This June tour may've been the one where bodyguards Dick Grob and Sam Thompson made contingency plans if Elvis died while on tour. That's how bad it was.
The main reason Elvis dropped the use of the corset in October 1976 was it constricted his breathing, and he felt he couldn't sing comfortably.
The contingency plans is new for me, Doc. Do you know more about this? I also like to thank you for sharing your knowledge and at the same time being rather entertaining at times.
Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:29 am
dreambear wrote:I feel like I know nothing about Elvis now. Which book tells us the story about surprising Ed Parker outside his hotel?
Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:22 am
Xaykev wrote:dreambear wrote:I feel like I know nothing about Elvis now. Which book tells us the story about surprising Ed Parker outside his hotel?
Ed Parker's book. In the book it is written that Elvis on purpose avoid seeing Ed Parker, so Parker thought maybe Elvis was mad at him. It turned out that Elvis only wanted to surprise him since he was proud, happy and slimmer
Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:21 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:Xaykev wrote:dreambear wrote:I feel like I know nothing about Elvis now. Which book tells us the story about surprising Ed Parker outside his hotel?
Ed Parker's book. In the book it is written that Elvis on purpose avoid seeing Ed Parker, so Parker thought maybe Elvis was mad at him. It turned out that Elvis only wanted to surprise him since he was proud, happy and slimmer
Which Ed Parker book?
Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:39 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:Xaykev wrote:dreambear wrote:I feel like I know nothing about Elvis now. Which book tells us the story about surprising Ed Parker outside his hotel?
Ed Parker's book. In the book it is written that Elvis on purpose avoid seeing Ed Parker, so Parker thought maybe Elvis was mad at him. It turned out that Elvis only wanted to surprise him since he was proud, happy and slimmer
Which Ed Parker book?
Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:20 pm
eligain wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:Xaykev wrote:dreambear wrote:I feel like I know nothing about Elvis now. Which book tells us the story about surprising Ed Parker outside his hotel?
Ed Parker's book. In the book it is written that Elvis on purpose avoid seeing Ed Parker, so Parker thought maybe Elvis was mad at him. It turned out that Elvis only wanted to surprise him since he was proud, happy and slimmer
Which Ed Parker book?
Did Ed Parker write more than one book?
Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:34 pm
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