hli wrote:A possible explanation for his voice change could be the neglection of his voice true the years.
A rock 'n roll lifestyle is not really the best way to keep your vocal cords in condition.
But that wouldn't explain the shift in 1968, as he really hadn't sung in that style since 1961.
well, as a singer you have to be verry carefull with your vocal chord.
Drinking, smoking, drug abuse, sleepless nights etc. all has a negative
effect on the vocal chord. Symptoms like hoarseness can appear or dissappear
in a arretic way.
It could well be possible that by 68 his physical state couldn't keep fully keep up
with his lifestyle, wich could have a direct effect on his vocals, this may appear as a sudden shift,
but in fact it's a gradually process of decline.
likethebike wrote:RJM- I would argue that the competition was just as great in 1956. You had Little Richard, Chuck Berry, the Five Satins, the Flamingos, Carl Perkins, Johnny Cash et al dishing out great records. In pop Dino came out with one of his all time best in "Memories Are Made of This," Sinatra gave us Songs for Swinging Lovers and in the blues there was Muddy, the Wolf, Little Walter, Junior Parker and Lowell Fulsom (n). Sam Cooke was making his last great gospel records. What have the '60s got for all that?
HoneyTalkNelson wrote:The Beatles.
They surpass them all.
That's a big statement, HoneyTalkNelson, but in this case the facts bear it out.
. Dr. John Carpenter, M.D. Stop, look and listen, baby <<--->> that's my philosophy!
HoneyTalkNelson wrote:The contributions of The Beatles are far greater than any other singer, musician or composer since the dawn of music.
Nobody even comes close.
Whether individually or as a unit, they truly walk on water.
Peace and Love.
Listen, to the wisdom of the ages
Listen, to the words of many sages
Live each day, as if it were your last
It's written in the stars, your destiny is cast
And that hourglass, runs too fast no doubt
For the sands of time are running out
Listen, to the wisdom of the ages
These words, can be found in history's pages
Live each day, for happiness can't wait
And love while you may, but heed the hand of fate
If the finger points, it's too late no doubt
For the sands of time, are running out
But the man who turns, and escapes somehow
Is the wisest of men
And to such a man, I'd bow
. Dr. John Carpenter, M.D. Stop, look and listen, baby <<--->> that's my philosophy!
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Come on Ringo, here we go
Let's here it for Denis, ha hey, good evening}
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(Go on Denis, let's hear it for Denis O'Bell)
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likethebike wrote:Honeytalk's tongue is planted firmly in cheek Peter. Sometimes we can miss that on the net.
I caught that, but at some point I thought maybe it was either some Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds going around, or as Jerry Lee said, "He walked on the water! And then He done EVERYTHING!" A religious experience!
rjm (the late sixties were a GREAT time for records, whomever you dig/dug)
"And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God." Aeschylus
"Treat me mean and cruel, treat me like a fool, but love me!"
HoneyTalkNelson wrote:You know my name, look up the number
You know my name, look up the number
You, you know, you know my name
You, you know, you know my name
{Good evening and welcome to Slaggers, featuring Denis O'Bell
Come on Ringo, here we go
Let's here it for Denis, ha hey, good evening}
You know my name, better look up my number
You know my name, that's right, look up my number
You, you know, you know my name
You, you know, you know my name
You know my name, ba ba ba, look up the number
You know my name, ha, that's right, look up the number
Ooh, you know, you know, you know my name
You know, you know you know my name
You know my name, ba ba ba bam, look up the number
You know my name, look up the number
You, you know, you know my name baby
You, you know, you know my name
You know, you know my name
You know, you know my name
(Oh let's hear it)
(Go on Denis, let's hear it for Denis O'Bell)
(My name)
You know, you know you know my name
(You know my name, you know my number)
You know, you know you know my name
(You know my number, you know my number)
Prr, prr, you know my name, look up the number
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(You know my name)
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(You know my number two)
You know my name
(You know me number three)
You know my name
(You know my number four)
You know my name [incomprehensible] mate
(You know me name)
You know
(You know me number two)
Look up the name
(You know me name, you know me number)
(What's up with you? ha)
(You know me name, that's right)
Yeah
Errol Flynn wrote:Anyone else ever noticed that Elvis' voice and his performance style seems to undergo radical change between 1968 and 1970? What I mean is, for example, at the '68 Comeback Special, he's still got that higher, "raspy" sort of "Rock N' Roll" voice, and is much more into it, energetic...Come '70 and onward he has the deeper, more operatic voice that colored most of his later performances both on stage and on record. You don't really hear that raw, higher, raspy sort of vocal again or get the raw power of the '68 Special....
Anyone else noticed this change in a very short period of time?
Anyone know why his voice changed so quickly, and why his energy or passion seemingly decreased by '70? Don't get me wrong, I love '70s Elvis but even '70, '72 are removed from the guy who came back in '68....Elvis in '68 is closer in voice and spirit to the guy who lit up the world in the '50s.
It's not like he was sickly or out of shape in 1970, 1971, 1972 or even '73...Yet he seems a lot more tired, less energized and his voice seems deeper and less raw than in '68.
Sure. By the summer of 1970, Elvis knew he had the audience in the palm of his hand, no matter what he chose to do on stage. In addition, his one hundred-plus Nevada performances had slowly began to turn him towards more ballads ("adult" songs) rather than the rock 'n' roll which made him famous ("kid" stuff). He didn't want to be Little Richard anymore, he wanted to be Tom Jones.
Incorrect and you know it ! Elvis said "I don't sound like nobody" and "I sing all kinds" And your man once said "Before Elvis there was nothing"
So stick to what you do best in here and stop talking out of your backside! thanks.
"People were saying who is he? what is he? is he is he?? I didn't know I'm saying am I am I??" Elvis Presley talks about his career in 1969 live concert
Oh man. Can't handle that Elvis wanted to be Tom Jones? Why don't you check out the repertoire of both men around the same time? Yes, there were many folks doing those songs but the similarity is striking.
You could also read some books that speak of Elvis' main influences around the time. That might be hard for you. You could check out some footage of Tom Jones performing. But again, I understand how this might trouble you.
Elvis was still great. But he was simply not an innovator anymore. He brought his unique experience, personality, gifts and previous innovative technique to something that was already being done. Most similarly by Tom Jones.
joeroberts wrote:Oh man. Can't handle that Elvis wanted to be Tom Jones? Why don't you check out the repertoire of both men around the same time? Yes, there were many folks doing those songs but the similarity is striking.
You could also read some books that speak of Elvis' main influences around the time. That might be hard for you. You could check out some footage of Tom Jones performing. But again, I understand how this might trouble you.
Elvis was still great. But he was simply not an innovator anymore. He brought his unique experience, personality, gifts and previous innovative technique to something that was already being done. Most similarly by Tom Jones.
Nice post.
. Dr. John Carpenter, M.D. Stop, look and listen, baby <<--->> that's my philosophy!
joeroberts wrote:Oh man. Can't handle that Elvis wanted to be Tom Jones? Why don't you check out the repertoire of both men around the same time? Yes, there were many folks doing those songs but the similarity is striking.
You could also read some books that speak of Elvis' main influences around the time. That might be hard for you. You could check out some footage of Tom Jones performing. But again, I understand how this might trouble you.
Elvis was still great. But he was simply not an innovator anymore. He brought his unique experience, personality, gifts and previous innovative technique to something that was already being done. Most similarly by Tom Jones.
But as Tom was actually trying to be Elvis, does that mean Elvis was copying himself all be it for a different period?
joeroberts wrote:Oh man. Can't handle that Elvis wanted to be Tom Jones? Why don't you check out the repertoire of both men around the same time? Yes, there were many folks doing those songs but the similarity is striking.
You could also read some books that speak of Elvis' main influences around the time. That might be hard for you. You could check out some footage of Tom Jones performing. But again, I understand how this might trouble you.
Elvis was still great. But he was simply not an innovator anymore. He brought his unique experience, personality, gifts and previous innovative technique to something that was already being done. Most similarly by Tom Jones.
But as Tom was actually trying to be Elvis, does that mean Elvis was copying himself all be it for a different period?
It means Elvis in 1968 was inspired by a singer who had been inspired in 1956-57 by Elvis.
. Dr. John Carpenter, M.D. Stop, look and listen, baby <<--->> that's my philosophy!
joeroberts wrote:But as Tom was actually trying to be Elvis, does that mean Elvis was copying himself all be it for a different period?
It means Elvis in 1968 was inspired by a singer who had been inspired in 1956-57 by Elvis.
Or perhaps he thought "I can best that", and he did - a challange, I keep reading here that he always liked a challange and then got bored with it , until a new challange came up.
I think his voice changed more between 1970 and 1972 than between 1968 and 1970. But is voice was in its best form between 1960 and 1964. King Of The Whole Wide World was the best of the 50s and 60s in one song.
