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Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:09 pm
Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:10 pm
SuspiciousMind wrote:I just can't get enough of this song and the mass majority of the American Sounds sessions of 1969. I would rank it ahead of Sun and all of 56 as far as material goes. Even Hey Jude moves me with the ending where he says "Jude, Jude, Juda Juda baby". Very cool!
Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:16 pm
SuspiciousMind wrote:I just can't get enough of this song and the mass majority of the American Sounds sessions of 1969. I would rank it ahead of Sun and all of 56 as far as material goes. Even Hey Jude moves me with the ending where he says "Jude, Jude, Juda Juda baby". Very cool!
Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:21 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:SuspiciousMind wrote:I just can't get enough of this song and the mass majority of the American Sounds sessions of 1969. I would rank it ahead of Sun and all of 56 as far as material goes. Even Hey Jude moves me with the ending where he says "Jude, Jude, Juda Juda baby". Very cool!
Some of the best cuts are as good as anything Elvis ever taped, but not in a million years would I put American Sound 1969 ahead of Sun 1954-55 or RCA 1956.
Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:26 pm
SuspiciousMind wrote: Even Hey Jude moves me with the ending where he says "Jude, Jude, Juda Juda baby". Very cool!
Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:27 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:SuspiciousMind wrote:I just can't get enough of this song and the mass majority of the American Sounds sessions of 1969. I would rank it ahead of Sun and all of 56 as far as material goes. Even Hey Jude moves me with the ending where he says "Jude, Jude, Juda Juda baby". Very cool!
Some of the best cuts are as good as anything Elvis ever taped, but not in a million years would I put American Sound 1969 ahead of Sun 1954-55 or RCA 1956.
Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:29 pm
Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:38 pm
Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:39 pm
Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:54 pm
Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:57 pm
poormadpeter wrote:I would go as far as to say that Long Black Limousine was Presley's greatest achievement on record. Presley's work from 1954-56 might have changed popular music for ever, but that's not really an argument as to whether it is greater than something he recorded in 1969 ...
Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:37 am
Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:49 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:poormadpeter wrote:I would go as far as to say that Long Black Limousine was Presley's greatest achievement on record. Presley's work from 1954-56 might have changed popular music for ever, but that's not really an argument as to whether it is greater than something he recorded in 1969 ...
Sure it is. That music wasn't wallpaper.
That said, I'd place the performance in the Presley all-time top ten, if only because Elvis knows the song is his story, and sings it with every ounce of his heart and soul. And he is more than a little bitter. Some of this feeling would inform his revelatory stage monologues later that year.
Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:55 am
SuspiciousMind wrote:Remember, in 1956, RCA had him recording what they wanted him to record.
Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:39 am
Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:52 am
blue boy wrote:The difference between the Sun/fifthies material and the 69 material is that in the early stuff is a young man singing to teenagers.
Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:28 am
SuspiciousMind wrote:I would rank it ahead of Sun and all of 56 as far as material goes...
Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:16 am
poormadpeter wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:poormadpeter wrote:I would go as far as to say that Long Black Limousine was Presley's greatest achievement on record. Presley's work from 1954-56 might have changed popular music for ever, but that's not really an argument as to whether it is greater than something he recorded in 1969 ...
Sure it is. That music wasn't wallpaper.
That said, I'd place the performance in the Presley all-time top ten, if only because Elvis knows the song is his story, and sings it with every ounce of his heart and soul. And he is more than a little bitter. Some of this feeling would inform his revelatory stage monologues later that year.
That music wasn't wallpaper?
What exactly is that meant to mean?
Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:19 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:blue boy wrote:The difference between the Sun/fifthies material and the 69 material is that in the early stuff is a young man singing to teenagers.
How many teenagers does this material appeal to nowadays? One of the reasons Elvis' early recordings are so cherished is because his voice did not just speak to youth. It spoke to everyone. The sentiments expressed in his early songs can hardly be generalized as juvenile in nature. For example:
Tryin' to Get to You
Mystery Train
When It Rains It Pours
Peace In The Valley
Young and Beautiful
Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:12 pm
blue boy wrote:I wasn't talking about todays teenagers, the first Three song you listed are strong rythm & blues numbers first made popular by black artists. There was very Little adults that listened to these black numbers, hence the popularity to the young generation, so a Young man singing fora young audience. We all know that Elvis was aiming Another type of audience after his Army Days. So my valuation stands the 69 stuff wasmore grown up material even if everyone can relate to song like Mystery Train, When It Rains ond others. Every decade has it's own Elvis.
Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:34 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:SuspiciousMind wrote:I just can't get enough of this song and the mass majority of the American Sounds sessions of 1969. I would rank it ahead of Sun and all of 56 as far as material goes. Even Hey Jude moves me with the ending where he says "Jude, Jude, Juda Juda baby". Very cool!
Some of the best cuts are as good as anything Elvis ever taped, but not in a million years would I put American Sound 1969 ahead of Sun 1954-55 or RCA 1956.
Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:18 pm
poormadpeter wrote:I would go as far as to say that Long Black Limousine was Presley's greatest achievement on record. Presley's work from 1954-56 might have changed popular music for ever, but that's not really an argument as to whether it is greater than something he recorded in 1969 under completely different conditions and circumstances. Long Black Limousine is arguably his most mature performance. Every single ounce of energy, soul and commitment that Elvis could muster appears to be in that first cut at the Memphis Sessions. As great as the rest of the session is, nothing matches this. As Elvis settled into the session with each successive recording, he became more confident and more in control, even playful. There is a sense of desolation, desperation and sheer terror in Long Black Limousine, and it is a perfect mix of song, singer and situation that was brought about by a number of factors that could never be repeated.
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