Prince From Another Planet - Brilliant!

I've just spent some time listening to the Legacy and Prince evening shows side by side.

The sound is dramatically brighter on Prince. The reverb and delay on the Prince Elvis is an obvious difference from what we're used to on Legacy.

But, I hear very little in terms of a different mix. The instruments and vocalists, to my ears, have the same placement they've always had. The audience, though, is more prominent on Prince. Listen to the reaction as Elvis has the house lights turned up. On Legacy, we hear an outburts of shreiks that quickly trails off. There is a more sustained level of excitement (a second or two) on Prince.

So, unless I'm getting my terminology backwards, the mix is not very different. The mastering is very different. I know this material by heart. If there was a new riff or cymbal crash in there, I think it would jump out at me.

I quite enjoyed the extended, Big Al announcements at the end. Guy had to have stones to get out there, in Manhattan, and work that carnival crap.

Does anyone know the identity of the female reporter we hear in the press conference? She sounds so distinctive. Somebody out there must remember her. I get a kick how, after she asks Elvis a question about women's lib, he sweetly brushes it off and calls her "Dear." I'm sure he didn't think twice about it.

Very nice recap -- thank you.

Thank you.

He is just - so - damned - cool, at these shows. This is where the Vegas/Concert years could have come to a triumphant conclusion. How would things have been different if he brought the curtain down after New York? It's just remarkable, in a bad way, that he would seem so neutered, in Hawaii, only seven months later. Recall his conversation with the Elvis on Tour producer, where he said the movie frustration got to the point that it made him physically ill. I wonder if it ever occurred to him, from '73 going forward, that he'd fallen into the very same trap, only this time with live performances?

I've just spent some time listening to the Legacy and Prince evening shows side by side.

The sound is dramatically brighter on Prince. The reverb and delay on the Prince Elvis is an obvious difference from what we're used to on Legacy.

But, I hear very little in terms of a different mix. The instruments and vocalists, to my ears, have the same placement they've always had. The audience, though, is more prominent on Prince. Listen to the reaction as Elvis has the house lights turned up. On Legacy, we hear an outburts of shreiks that quickly trails off. There is a more sustained level of excitement (a second or two) on Prince.

So, unless I'm getting my terminology backwards, the mix is not very different. The mastering is very different. I know this material by heart. If there was a new riff or cymbal crash in there, I think it would jump out at me.

I quite enjoyed the extended, Big Al announcements at the end. Guy had to have stones to get out there, in Manhattan, and work that carnival crap.

Does anyone know the identity of the female reporter we hear in the press conference? She sounds so distinctive. Somebody out there must remember her. I get a kick how, after she asks Elvis a question about women's lib, he sweetly brushes it off and calls her "Dear." I'm sure he didn't think twice about it.

Very nice recap -- thank you.

Thank you.

He is just - so - damned - cool, at these shows. This is where the Vegas/Concert years could have come to a triumphant conclusion. How would things have been different if he brought the curtain down after New York? It's just remarkable, in a bad way, that he would seem so neutered, in Hawaii, only seven months later. Recall his conversation with the Elvis on Tour producer, where he said the movie frustration got to the point that it made him physically ill. I wonder if it ever occurred to him, from '73 going forward, that he'd fallen into the very same trap, only this time with live performances?

I think it probably did enter his mind especially when you see and hear the sincerity in his wish to play Europe and Japan at the MSG press conference.Instead (aloha apart) it was the same Vegas stints and tours that offered little challenge.

norrie

I've just received my copy of the Legacy edition with the DVD.

bajo, the Legacy Edition does not come with a DVD.
It looks like this - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images ... =1&s=music

Did you notice Elvis clearing his throat after Impossible Dream? That's not part of the Legacy presentation. There's also no fade-in before Impossible Dream, as there's been on all other CD releases.

Ha, you beat me to it, Elvisjock. I wanted to announce for the completists out there, we have a previously unreleased throat clearing on the set. That's why we had an edit between The Impossible Dream and the introductions. It wasn't an edited out song.

Mine arrived yesterday (it took no more than two days to be delivered from the United States). But not being able to meet the courier due to heavy schedule at work, it has been delivered to my mother's house. I will not be able to visit her until Sunday - now that's what I call strength of will.

It is my hope that PFAP is the kind of package they're using to test the waters for future video releases. It is also my hope they sell the hell out of it and that it DOES result in more releases of this nature.

Good point. This is the main reason I have decided to spend the money on this release (basically not being a fan of the MSG concerts).

But I have to admit that I haven't been so anxious about getting an Elvis Presley release for some years now.

Mine arrived yesterday (it took no more than two days to be delivered from the United States). But not being able to meet the courier due to heavy schedule at work, it has been delivered to my mother's house. I will not be able to visit her until Sunday - now that's what I call strength of will.

It is my hope that PFAP is the kind of package they're using to test the waters for future video releases. It is also my hope they sell the hell out of it and that it DOES result in more releases of this nature.

Good point. This is the main reason I have decided to spend the money on this release (basically not being a fan of the MSG concerts).

But I have to admit that I haven't been so anxious about getting an Elvis Presley release for some years now.

You are in for a real treat then!

Received this beauty today. Wish Amazon had shipped it in a box instead of a bubbled envelope but I did get it with minimal spine bending. Went over the 2 shows quickly. I enjoy the new mixes, though they are a little 'busy' (lots going on in the center, little on either sides). The evening show now seems to be complete, with no in-between song edits. Is it just me or do we hear someone singing 'That's All Right' along with the closing vamp?Wish the press conference was more complete. It's annoying to hear a question being asked only to have the video cut to something else before Elvis can answer.

I noticed that. There's someone singing for sure but it's buried in the mix.

I received my copy yesterday and watched the DVD. The documentary doesn't reveal too much details, but still is nice to watch. The 8mm clips are also nice, but watching the complete afternoon show there is too much black for my taste. Maybe Sony just should have used the songs that were actually filmed.

The CDs were given a quick spin, I just checked one or two songs of each show, but I was certainly pleased by what I heared.

The booklet is also well done, the whole product gives the impression of quality and being the definitive release of the King's shows at MSG.

I received my copy yesterday and watched the DVD. The documentary doesn't reveal too much details, but still is nice to watch. The 8mm clips are also nice, but watching the complete afternoon show there is too much black for my taste. Maybe Sony just should have used the songs that were actually filmed.

The CDs were given a quick spin, I just checked one or two songs of each show, but I was certainly pleased by what I heared.

The booklet is also well done, the whole product gives the impression of quality and being the definitive release of the King's shows at MSG.

Just select the track option and go to any song you like for the footage. Or read the booklet then view every time Elvis appears...I've no complaints –– APFAP Rocks!!!

I received my copy yesterday and watched the DVD. The documentary doesn't reveal too much details, but still is nice to watch. The 8mm clips are also nice, but watching the complete afternoon show there is too much black for my taste. Maybe Sony just should have used the songs that were actually filmed.

My thoughts excatly. I think that would've been a better choise since the audio is already complete on the 1st CD. The missing footage bits could've been filled in with stills.

Just select the track option and go to any song you like for the footage. Or read the booklet then view every time Elvis appears...I've no complaints –– APFAP Rocks!!!

There's no way of knowing which tracks have footage and which do not. Better way to deal with this would've been to create an option on the DVD to just watch the bits where there's footage available.

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How do you know he didn't have the belt in the 11th? He is wearing it in other photos for the 11th, so what's the story? I am not disputing it just interested to know what went on?

Our own Greybeard was there. He said that Elvis took the belt off prior to Hound Dog on June 11th.[/quote

Ok thanks Rob, Greybeard is one lucky guy! That's suggests the photo in the book is wrongly attributed to the Evening show then.

cheers Jamie

"He removed the belt on the 11th show also. He did it during the blues opening for HOUND DOG. I was at this show and was amazed at the thud it made when it hit the floor. Elvis said something to the effect of "I'm trying to be sexy.." Funny moment. I didn't realize he did it on the 10th too."
Greybeard

So when he took off the belt during the evening show on the 10th, he must have put it back on upside down... is that correct?
Looking at the pictures from both the evening show on the 10th and the show on the 11th, it appears he came out on the 10th with a red scarf and on the 11th with a white scarf (same jumpsuit).

I was suprised to see he wore the same suit in the last two concerts - hope the guys got it dry cleaned for him first otherwise it must have been a bit fruity!

Just on the topic of the mix, whilst the placement is similar to original versions there is more to mixing that left/right placement such as the placement of instruments in the frequency range, the use of EQ on the channels and of course compression. I am no expert but the shows sound markedly different to me and I think that is not just re-mastering. But whatever they have done it is like hearing these for the first time. It really does feel like your in row 4 - I still can't believe just how good the music is, Elvis vocals are stunning and the band just rock. Yes it's a hundered mile an hour adrenalin rush but in a big stadium like that it works - it must have blown the roof off! Jus stunning.

One of the things that has stood out for me are Elvis vocals on Never Been To Spain. You can hear every breath and growl on the opening quiet verses before cutting lose, he sounds mean. By the end he's lost in the moment - it's obvious he's really in to it. JB's guitar work stings throughout and Ronnie's drumming now has more weight as they have brought the bass drum into the mix rather han just tom tom's which dominated on the original Evening show. I think that's a good example of how the re-mix has been applied.

My first album when I was 10 was Seperate Ways bought for my birthday in 1973. It was my first LP of anykind and i played it to bits - it was my very own and I didn't have to pester my older brother to play his Sweet albums (which was obviously why he bought me the Elvis album in hindsight). Anyway, that Xmas I got MSG and Aloha. I grew up on 72 Elvis and its remained my go to year even though I love other periods to. I feel lucky that so many live recordings are available for this period in what is surely his peak on the road. This release elevates these concerts onto another level again and makes you appreciate just how good he was when he was on his game. It's certainly my favorite release for some time.

cheers Jamie

Re. the documentary. Very well done. Manages to remind us how much of an event those Garden concerts were. James doesn't have much to say, except to state the Colonel organized press conferences only once a year.... What?

What takes a little getting used to when listening to the new mix is hearing Elvis` voice echo throughout the Garden whenever he speaks.

Got my PFAP today at long last from HMV and all I can say is Prince From Another Planet = CDs From Another Planet !!! Best £13 I have ever spent on a Elvis release !!! Thank you very much Sony Music

Re. the documentary. Very well done. Manages to remind us how much of an event those Garden concerts were. James doesn't have much to say, except to state the Colonel organized press conferences only once a year.... What?

What takes a little getting used to when listening to the new mix is hearing Elvis` voice echo throughout the Garden whenever he speaks.

I found the documentary to be disappointing. It is heavily padded with the bootleg film footage. It has the obligatory hipster critic (brush your teeth much?), as well as the obligatory Jerry Schilling. No matter. The sound of the discs, and the film itself, blows me away.

and the most important question....how the heck is the sound on the CDs?????? Especially the evening show...

IMO..

AS: Similar to An Afternoom.. CD but smoother, less digital-sounding & a bit more bass. The mix is rather like the FTD At the International.

ES: Streets ahead of the standard 1990s CD, full, beefy & powerful but pretty smooooth.

At last, a mixing job has been done well. No over the top reverb, no drums buried in the mix, no prominent tambourine, no feed from the Inspirations' mikes. This work has been done well. All the above applies. There is more bass response. Also, James' guitar is more prominent in the afternoon show. The 'f@rting' horn section during "Reconsider baby" has been toned down too, luckily.

At last, a mixing job has been done well. No over the top reverb, no drums buried in the mix, no prominent tambourine, no feed from the Inspirations' mikes. This work has been done well. All the above applies. There is more bass response. Also, James' guitar is more prominent in the afternoon show. The 'f@rting' horn section during "Reconsider baby" has been toned down too, luckily.

Who are you and what have you done with Tony?!

I've just received my copy of the Legacy edition with the DVD.

bajo, the Legacy Edition does not come with a DVD.
It looks like this - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images ... =1&s=music

Sorry BlueRiver. But my copy actually states: RCA,LEGACY, DVD/VIDEO/NTCS. 88691953882. But, what the heck, it's such a thrill!

I received this beautiful set today and am blown away by the sound and the overall high quality of the package. At just £14 from Amazon it must be the bargain of the year.

Just one question though; in the booklet Lenny Kaye mentions the Aloha show but gives the date as April 4th 1973!!! Was that the date that it originally aired on TV in the USA or is this a rather stunning mistake?

It was aired in the States on that date.

At last, a mixing job has been done well. No over the top reverb, no drums buried in the mix, no prominent tambourine, no feed from the Inspirations' mikes. This work has been done well. All the above applies. There is more bass response. Also, James' guitar is more prominent in the afternoon show. The 'f@rting' horn section during "Reconsider baby" has been toned down too, luckily.

Who are you and what have you done with Tony?!

Very, very good.

It was aired in the States on that date.

Ahh, wonderful. Thanks Rob.

My set arrivied yesterday.
DVD - Yes there is grain but the restoration must have been done well because even with the grain the live video is exciting to watch. I am enjoying the DVD more than I thought I would. I played it on my 65 inch wide screen TV and it looks good on there. Extras are good too. It isn't something that will be filed away. I can see myself putting it on often in the future.
CD's - I'm listening to the evening show now. It sounds great. I was perfectly happy with my remastered version on the Franklin set. But this new mix is almost like hearing it new. Is it better? I'm not really sure, but it does sound great. Lots of clarity and a, I am there feeling to it. I will get to the afternoon show later but it did sound good on the DVD.
Just my first thoughts. Almost forgot, the book is pretty cool too. Have not read it through completely yet. Photos are very good.

My set arrivied yesterday.
DVD - Yes there is grain but the restoration must have been done well because even with the grain the live video is exciting to watch. I am enjoying the DVD more than I thought I would. I played it on my 65 inch wide screen TV and it looks good on there. Extras are good too. It isn't something that will be filed away. I can see myself putting it on often in the future.
CD's - I'm listening to the evening show now. It sounds great. I was perfectly happy with my remastered version on the Franklin set. But this new mix is almost like hearing it new. Is it better? I'm not really sure, but it does sound great. Lots of clarity and a, I am there feeling to it. I will get to the afternoon show later but it did sound good on the DVD.
Just my first thoughts. Almost forgot, the book is pretty cool too. Have not read it through completely yet. Photos are very good.

Brilliant L Ray. I can't stop watching the documentary then choosing the footage tracks from the menu afterwards...Elvis ON TOUR was a visual feast but here Elvis seems to have taken it up a notch for the New York crowd. And he looks fabulously fit and healthy too. The 'Suspicious Minds' karate action was jaw-dropping. The Afternoon show has taken on a new significance because of the video elements and that Gold cape spread is just fantastic. We get to see how good he was at the Garden, and boy was he smokin!'

Don Lance seems to have captured all the best moments and although grainy it doesn't stop the enjoyment. I must have watched the doc about 10 times already it's so compelling...

'Polk Salad Annie' is terrific too watching Elvis shimmy across the stage and the dynamic ending - fabulous!!!
Yes the booklet's very good and informative with loads of great pics. 'Hound Dog' how cool is Elvis here - "hup, two, three. four - you ain't no friend of mine..."

Fantastic release - Elvis at his quintessential 1970s best...

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I agree that he took it up a notch. I suspect that these Garden shows were his best shows for the year of 1972. I saw the Nov. 72 Oakland show and I don't remember him being this active on stage, Although it was a great show that I saw. Yeah the karate moves are great.

I agree that he took it up a notch. I suspect that these Garden shows were his best shows for the year of 1972. I saw the Nov. 72 Oakland show and I don't remember him being this active on stage, Although it was a great show that I saw. Yeah the karate moves are great.

He did do "Burning Love" at that Oakland show -- when it was #1 on the Cashbox chart. That's pretty cool.