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Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:26 pm

Jaime1234 wrote:I can tell you, right off the bat, that Robert Plant, Tom Petty and Bruce Springsteen would do it for free, as would Alvin Lee, super fans of Elvis to this day. Jimmy Page, Paul Simon, David Bowie I don't know, even less Garfunkel, who charges a great deal of money, even for birthday-related one night presentations, mostly of the truly rich and not so famous (LOL).

As to Weintraub, who knows, his ego is so large that perhaps he would also do it for free, as his account of how he got Parker to agree for Elvis to play New York has been told in his autobiography, and retold by the press countless times. And he was there, even photographed as he helped others fix the stage!! That leaves Paul Stanley of KISS, the then cab driver. I bet he would do it for free as well, but for obvious reasons having to do with his current status, not unless he knew in advance all the others would be in for the ride (LOL).

Come to think of it, Eric Maskin, the then Harvard graduate student who attended one of those concerts (and who 35 years later , in 2007, mentioned Elvis in his written speech at the Royal Academy in Stockholm, as he accepted the Nobel Price for Economics, and to top it all, in front of the King of Sweden, whose sister, who was there that night also, had met Elvis, as a then Princess, in 1960, ), would also do it for free. You can see how she smiles, when Elvis is mentioned. Priceless.


Has it been confirmed that Bruce was at one of the shows? we might have to do some research like when finally confirmed that Zeppelin were there.:)

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:36 pm

poormadpeter wrote:I agree. Aloha is a very subdued affair, whereas the latest mix of MSG find it in a middle ground between those live shows where we barely here the audience and the excitement of the arena-feel of the Memphis show. It finally does sound like a live show, whereas as you say Aloha never does.

We can only hope, if the Hawaii shows are on the schedule for re-issue next year, that they receive the same treatment as the new MSG remixes.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:56 pm

elvis-fan wrote:
poormadpeter wrote:I agree. Aloha is a very subdued affair, whereas the latest mix of MSG find it in a middle ground between those live shows where we barely here the audience and the excitement of the arena-feel of the Memphis show. It finally does sound like a live show, whereas as you say Aloha never does.

We can only hope, if the Hawaii shows are on the schedule for re-issue next year, that they receive the same treatment as the new MSG remixes.


Yes, but I think there are vast differences in the shows and the audiences. The MSG audience is (now) far more noisy than Aloha was. The Aloha audience is almost like a polite audience sitting in a theatre, than an excited one at a concert by the King of Rock n Roll. I'm not sure if a mix is going to be able to change that if the audience noise wasn't there to start with.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:59 pm

poormadpeter wrote:
elvis-fan wrote:
poormadpeter wrote:I agree. Aloha is a very subdued affair, whereas the latest mix of MSG find it in a middle ground between those live shows where we barely here the audience and the excitement of the arena-feel of the Memphis show. It finally does sound like a live show, whereas as you say Aloha never does.

We can only hope, if the Hawaii shows are on the schedule for re-issue next year, that they receive the same treatment as the new MSG remixes.


Yes, but I think there are vast differences in the shows and the audiences. The MSG audience is (now) far more noisy than Aloha was. The Aloha audience is almost like a polite audience sitting in a theatre, than an excited one at a concert by the King of Rock n Roll. I'm not sure if a mix is going to be able to change that if the audience noise wasn't there to start with.


At least if the rehearsal show is remixed for CD, it might sound better than the last time AND it might be complete this time!

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:09 pm

It would be hard to make it sound worse!

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:13 pm

What's the odds that we see an Aloha From Hawaii Legacy Edition, with both concerts remixed and remastered, plus the after show insert tracks and outtakes included, released in Fall 2013?

They've marketed the MSG release as the 40th anniversary, even thought it's a few months late, so I could see them doing it again late next year for Aloha. It appears that already Prince From Another Planet has exceeded Sony's expectations, and there's no reason to suggest why a definitive CD collection of Aloha (we've already got the definitive DVD collection) wouldn't sell just aswell.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:29 pm

Good Time Charlie wrote:What's the odds that we see an Aloha From Hawaii Legacy Edition, with both concerts remixed and remastered, plus the after show insert tracks and outtakes included, released in Fall 2013?

They've marketed the MSG release as the 40th anniversary, even thought it's a few months late, so I could see them doing it again late next year for Aloha. It appears that already Prince From Another Planet has exceeded Sony's expectations, and there's no reason to suggest why a definitive CD collection of Aloha (we've already got the definitive DVD collection) wouldn't sell just aswell.


Ooh, yes please! :D

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:22 am

Good Time Charlie wrote:What's the odds that we see an Aloha From Hawaii Legacy Edition, with both concerts remixed and remastered, plus the after show insert tracks and outtakes included, released in Fall 2013?

They've marketed the MSG release as the 40th anniversary, even thought it's a few months late, so I could see them doing it again late next year for Aloha. It appears that already Prince From Another Planet has exceeded Sony's expectations, and there's no reason to suggest why a definitive CD collection of Aloha (we've already got the definitive DVD collection) wouldn't sell just aswell.


That also crossed my mind the other day. I would welcome it.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:29 am

Exogenesis wrote:
Good Time Charlie wrote:What's the odds that we see an Aloha From Hawaii Legacy Edition, with both concerts remixed and remastered, plus the after show insert tracks and outtakes included, released in Fall 2013?

They've marketed the MSG release as the 40th anniversary, even thought it's a few months late, so I could see them doing it again late next year for Aloha. It appears that already Prince From Another Planet has exceeded Sony's expectations, and there's no reason to suggest why a definitive CD collection of Aloha (we've already got the definitive DVD collection) wouldn't sell just aswell.


That also crossed my mind the other day. I would welcome it.



If they do that, I hope they include a DVD of the two press conferences as well, to make it even more of an essential purchase.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:49 am

poormadpeter wrote:
elvis-fan wrote:
poormadpeter wrote:I agree. Aloha is a very subdued affair, whereas the latest mix of MSG find it in a middle ground between those live shows where we barely here the audience and the excitement of the arena-feel of the Memphis show. It finally does sound like a live show, whereas as you say Aloha never does.

We can only hope, if the Hawaii shows are on the schedule for re-issue next year, that they receive the same treatment as the new MSG remixes.


Yes, but I think there are vast differences in the shows and the audiences. The MSG audience is (now) far more noisy than Aloha was. The Aloha audience is almost like a polite audience sitting in a theatre, than an excited one at a concert by the King of Rock n Roll. I'm not sure if a mix is going to be able to change that if the audience noise wasn't there to start with.


There's a reason for that as the audience was asked to be on their best behavior since it was going out live worldwide. They didn't want another episode of a riot like what had happened in November 1972 in Hawaii following Elvis' first show there.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:50 am

Good Time Charlie wrote:What's the odds that we see an Aloha From Hawaii Legacy Edition, with both concerts remixed and remastered, plus the after show insert tracks and outtakes included, released in Fall 2013?

They've marketed the MSG release as the 40th anniversary, even thought it's a few months late, so I could see them doing it again late next year for Aloha. It appears that already Prince From Another Planet has exceeded Sony's expectations, and there's no reason to suggest why a definitive CD collection of Aloha (we've already got the definitive DVD collection) wouldn't sell just aswell.


I think there's a good chance we'll get a deluxe Aloha set next with both shows newly mixed. Probably in late 2013.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:51 am

DEH wrote:
Jaime1234 wrote:I can tell you, right off the bat, that Robert Plant, Tom Petty and Bruce Springsteen would do it for free, as would Alvin Lee, super fans of Elvis to this day. Jimmy Page, Paul Simon, David Bowie I don't know, even less Garfunkel, who charges a great deal of money, even for birthday-related one night presentations, mostly of the truly rich and not so famous (LOL).

As to Weintraub, who knows, his ego is so large that perhaps he would also do it for free, as his account of how he got Parker to agree for Elvis to play New York has been told in his autobiography, and retold by the press countless times. And he was there, even photographed as he helped others fix the stage!! That leaves Paul Stanley of KISS, the then cab driver. I bet he would do it for free as well, but for obvious reasons having to do with his current status, not unless he knew in advance all the others would be in for the ride (LOL).

Come to think of it, Eric Maskin, the then Harvard graduate student who attended one of those concerts (and who 35 years later , in 2007, mentioned Elvis in his written speech at the Royal Academy in Stockholm, as he accepted the Nobel Price for Economics, and to top it all, in front of the King of Sweden, whose sister, who was there that night also, had met Elvis, as a then Princess, in 1960, ), would also do it for free. You can see how she smiles, when Elvis is mentioned. Priceless.


Has it been confirmed that Bruce was at one of the shows? we might have to do some research like when finally confirmed that Zeppelin were there.:)


I have heard sonewhere or other, that Velvet Underground co-founder John Cale was there for a show too. It would be fascinating to get a definitive & accurate list, impossible I guess.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:06 am

SuspiciousMind wrote:
poormadpeter wrote:
elvis-fan wrote:
poormadpeter wrote:I agree. Aloha is a very subdued affair, whereas the latest mix of MSG find it in a middle ground between those live shows where we barely here the audience and the excitement of the arena-feel of the Memphis show. It finally does sound like a live show, whereas as you say Aloha never does.

We can only hope, if the Hawaii shows are on the schedule for re-issue next year, that they receive the same treatment as the new MSG remixes.


Yes, but I think there are vast differences in the shows and the audiences. The MSG audience is (now) far more noisy than Aloha was. The Aloha audience is almost like a polite audience sitting in a theatre, than an excited one at a concert by the King of Rock n Roll. I'm not sure if a mix is going to be able to change that if the audience noise wasn't there to start with.


There's a reason for that as the audience was asked to be on their best behavior since it was going out live worldwide. They didn't want another episode of a riot like what had happened in November 1972 in Hawaii following Elvis' first show there.


I thought that might be the case, but don't think it helped the show though, giving it a dead atmosphere.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:11 am

DEH wrote:Has it been confirmed that Bruce was at one of the shows? we might have to do some research like when finally confirmed that Zeppelin were there.:)

No need for confirmation in 2012, as savvy fans are aware it has been public knowledge since at least 1977 that Bruce Springsteen saw one of the New York shows in 1972. On the other hand, to date, nothing has been "confirmed" Led Zeppelin were at these shows.

Hope this helps.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:06 am

Hello,

EPE and Sony Music should put something up on their websites to find people who attended one or more of the four MSG shows. Maybe they could get a seating chart from the owners of MSG and fill in the seating for each of the four shows, kind of like a combination of their mosaics they've been doing recently and their list of celebrities who've visited Graceland. They could even reach out to various celebrities and regular fans for ticket stubs as proof that they saw Elvis at MSG.

Daryl

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:57 am

minkahed wrote:
Well, in this jerkwater town I live in, there wasn't 1 copy of this set anywhere to be found !!!



Today I went to 3 Walmart stores, a Best Buy, and a Target - I found 1 copy of the Legacy Edition of As Recorded At Madison Square Garden at the 1st store I went to (at 4:30 am) and no other store had the Legacy OR the Prince From Another Planet set. Disappointed!! This is not good! An opportunity for Elvis to be front and center and NOTHING!



I'll try again tomorrow.



RKS

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:36 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
DEH wrote:Has it been confirmed that Bruce was at one of the shows? we might have to do some research like when finally confirmed that Zeppelin were there.:)

No need for confirmation in 2012, as savvy fans are aware it has been public knowledge since at least 1977 that Bruce Springsteen saw one of the New York shows in 1972. On the other hand, to date, nothing has been "confirmed" Led Zeppelin were at these shows.

Hope this helps.


Plant confirmed it in Buffalo.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:17 am

DEH wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
DEH wrote:Has it been confirmed that Bruce was at one of the shows? we might have to do some research like when finally confirmed that Zeppelin were there.:)

No need for confirmation in 2012, as savvy fans are aware it has been public knowledge since at least 1977 that Bruce Springsteen saw one of the New York shows in 1972. On the other hand, to date, nothing has been "confirmed" Led Zeppelin were at these shows.

Hope this helps.


Plant confirmed it in Buffalo.

Nope. But you have fun!

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:36 am

King Volcano wrote:Peter is right, careful with the discs, tight as hell & very difficult to extract without scratching. I'll be keeping my discs in my MSG & Afternoon jewel cases.

That's what I do too. It's the only complaint I have about this release but it is annoying because you really can't keep the disc in the original package, not only the discs scratch but the cover also wrinkles. Due to only this I suppose I won't play the DVD that often.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:25 am

buddy holly wrote:
King Volcano wrote:Peter is right, careful with the discs, tight as hell & very difficult to extract without scratching. I'll be keeping my discs in my MSG & Afternoon jewel cases.

That's what I do too. It's the only complaint I have about this release but it is annoying because you really can't keep the disc in the original package, not only the discs scratch but the cover also wrinkles. Due to only this I suppose I won't play the DVD that often.



Its probably a good idea to get some blank cd boxes and use one for the DVD as well, it would be a shame not to use it because its tough to get at.

Cheers

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:45 pm

Jamie wrote:
buddy holly wrote:
King Volcano wrote:Peter is right, careful with the discs, tight as hell & very difficult to extract without scratching. I'll be keeping my discs in my MSG & Afternoon jewel cases.

That's what I do too. It's the only complaint I have about this release but it is annoying because you really can't keep the disc in the original package, not only the discs scratch but the cover also wrinkles. Due to only this I suppose I won't play the DVD that often.



Its probably a good idea to get some blank cd boxes and use one for the DVD as well, it would be a shame not to use it because its tough to get at.

Cheers


Off course but with a large collection, storage is also an issue on its own. Basically wirth this set you have toot store the package and find roon for another three jewel cases as well. That's weird isn't it? It looks like a trend to make packages that look beautiful but lack in their primary objective which is disc storage.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:53 pm

Jamie wrote:
buddy holly wrote:
King Volcano wrote:Peter is right, careful with the discs, tight as hell & very difficult to extract without scratching. I'll be keeping my discs in my MSG & Afternoon jewel cases.

That's what I do too. It's the only complaint I have about this release but it is annoying because you really can't keep the disc in the original package, not only the discs scratch but the cover also wrinkles. Due to only this I suppose I won't play the DVD that often.



Its probably a good idea to get some blank cd boxes and use one for the DVD as well, it would be a shame not to use it because its tough to get at.

Cheers


I had one of those single-size but double CD cases knocking around, so I put both the DVD & AS in the Afternoon in the Garden case, and the ES disc in my old 90s RCA CD case. I'm giving the two old discs to my young nephew, he's a budding Presley fan.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:46 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:
DEH wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
DEH wrote:Has it been confirmed that Bruce was at one of the shows? we might have to do some research like when finally confirmed that Zeppelin were there.:)

No need for confirmation in 2012, as savvy fans are aware it has been public knowledge since at least 1977 that Bruce Springsteen saw one of the New York shows in 1972. On the other hand, to date, nothing has been "confirmed" Led Zeppelin were at these shows.

Hope this helps.


Plant confirmed it in Buffalo.

Nope. But you have fun!


He did. the audio is there for all to hear. there was a big thread about it.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:02 pm

Daryl wrote:Hello,

EPE and Sony Music should put something up on their websites to find people who attended one or more of the four MSG shows. Maybe they could get a seating chart from the owners of MSG and fill in the seating for each of the four shows, kind of like a combination of their mosaics they've been doing recently and their list of celebrities who've visited Graceland. They could even reach out to various celebrities and regular fans for ticket stubs as proof that they saw Elvis at MSG.

Daryl


Probaly would be a little bit over the top all this.

Re: Prince from another Planet to hit the charts next week!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:04 pm

RKSNASHVILLE wrote:minkahed wrote:
Well, in this jerkwater town I live in, there wasn't 1 copy of this set anywhere to be found !!!



Today I went to 3 Walmart stores, a Best Buy, and a Target - I found 1 copy of the Legacy Edition of As Recorded At Madison Square Garden at the 1st store I went to (at 4:30 am) and no other store had the Legacy OR the Prince From Another Planet set. Disappointed!! This is not good! An opportunity for Elvis to be front and center and NOTHING!



I'll try again tomorrow.


Noone around these parts even had any idea what I was talking about when I was inquiring about this Elvis Presley release ?

All I got were weird looks, like, "Ailvis" ? ugh ...

All Wal Mart had were huge displays for One Direction and Toby Keith cd's.

Taylor Swift had one section all to herself !!!

According to sweetangeline, Elvis is alive and well at retail though ... "Extinct" is more like it.

midnightx, you want to chime in on this one ?