Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:32 pm
r&b wrote:elvisalisellers wrote:Swingin-Little-Guitar-Man wrote:He doesn't know the lyrics and it sounds like a rehearsal or impromptu rather than a song with actual takes.debtd1 wrote:I don't mind it, he's only 'jamming'...he wasn't intending it to be taken so seriously be FECC 43 years on.bajo wrote:I take it as a jam and as such I think it's ok.
At last, a bit of sanity.
Once again I will state, if intended as a jam and throwaway its ok but it was used as an album track on a full priced LP in 1972! Werent you people around then for this insanity? It was embarrasing and inexcusable for an artist like Elvis, but as someone else said, he really didn't care anymore about the record releases, Like Vince Everett in Jailhouse Rock when Peggy said to Vince, 'No one is so big that they can ignore the records Vince'. Well. fiction turned into reality.
Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:32 pm
Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:39 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:Delboy wrote:Only joking........it still sucks.
Nothing from American Sound in 1969 "sucks."
Frankly, it gets tiresome to read the constant bashing of a recording that was never intended to be released, and in fact was the last master from these fabulous sessions to see issue, in 1972 on a rag-tag RCA LP of leftovers.
"Hey Jude" by the Beatles was THE song of the year in 1968, and Elvis clearly loved it very, very much. So, on a whim, he sat down and began banging it out on piano, for his own pleasure. Like all the other work done in Memphis that winter, Presley's vocal was stunning, his tone so light and effortless, it remains a pleasure for any true fan. He was engaged. He cared about the song. And, as we all know, so soon after this would no longer be the norm.
Unlike some other tracks done in the same manner at American, producer Chips Moman knew immediately this was just an exercise for his artist. Elvis' stab at "Hey Jude" was never slated for a single A-side, B-side or LP track. But it was Elvis singing the Beatles, so tape rolled.
And that's the way it is.
Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:06 pm
poormadpeter wrote:The bashing is not of the recording, despite the obviously poor performance.
poormadpeter wrote:The bashing is of the fact that it was released and the artist didn't care that a half-finished recording featuring a hoarse, faultering vocal and half-forgotten lyrics was being made available to his audience who were paying their hard-earned money for the album in question.
poormadpeter wrote:This fact was an early sign that Presley not only no longer cared about his artistry, but also that he didn't care for the public that had helped him revive his career just a few years later.
Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:15 pm
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:29 pm
pingpong wrote:everything written by, associated with, even remotely connected to the Beatles is beyond criticism. la la la how life goes on.
Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:31 pm
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:44 pm
stevelecher wrote:I don't care whether it was recorded in Memphis 1969, Nashville 1970, or Graceland, 1976, this recording of Hey Jude is terrible and so is Elvis' vocal. Saying if it came from 1969 Memphis, it can't be bad is silly. At least on this recording, and to a lesser extent, the 1969 August versions paired with Yesterday, Hey Jude doesn't seem like a song Elvis could get into. It doesn't work for him.
Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:51 pm
pingpong wrote:it is an awful performance of an awful song. period.
Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:53 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:poormadpeter wrote:The bashing is not of the recording, despite the obviously poor performance.
Elvis' performance is clearly not "poor," there are no such performances from 1969 at American Sound. Period.poormadpeter wrote:The bashing is of the fact that it was released and the artist didn't care that a half-finished recording featuring a hoarse, faultering vocal and half-forgotten lyrics was being made available to his audience who were paying their hard-earned money for the album in question.
How odd we do not see the same laser-like venom for any number of substandard Presley releases on single and LP between 1964 and 1977, which were made available to his audience who were paying their hard-earned money for them.poormadpeter wrote:This fact was an early sign that Presley not only no longer cared about his artistry, but also that he didn't care for the public that had helped him revive his career just a few years later.
Early sign? Starting with 1970's third Las Vegas booking in barely a year's time, and the subsequent 1971 release of "Life" and "Rags To Riches" as single A-sides, and Love Letters From Elvis as an LP, savvy fans could see that the Hollywood routine and studio disinterest had been supplanted by the Vegas routine and studio disinterest.
So, again, the vitriol aimed at "Hey Jude" is baffling, and I suspect at the root of it all is the fact that it is a massive hit single written, recorded and released by the Beatles.
Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:09 pm
Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:12 pm
poormadpeter wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:Delboy wrote:Only joking........it still sucks.
Nothing from American Sound in 1969 "sucks."
Frankly, it gets tiresome to read the constant bashing of a recording that was never intended to be released, and in fact was the last master from these fabulous sessions to see issue, in 1972 on a rag-tag RCA LP of leftovers.
"Hey Jude" by the Beatles was THE song of the year in 1968, and Elvis clearly loved it very, very much. So, on a whim, he sat down and began banging it out on piano, for his own pleasure. Like all the other work done in Memphis that winter, Presley's vocal was stunning, his tone so light and effortless, it remains a pleasure for any true fan. He was engaged. He cared about the song. And, as we all know, so soon after this would no longer be the norm.
Unlike some other tracks done in the same manner at American, producer Chips Moman knew immediately this was just an exercise for his artist. Elvis' stab at "Hey Jude" was never slated for a single A-side, B-side or LP track. But it was Elvis singing the Beatles, so tape rolled.
And that's the way it is.
The bashing is not of the recording, despite the obviously poor performance. If never intended to be released, it should have remained in the vaults.
The bashing is of the fact that it was released and the artist didn't care that a half-finished recording featuring a hoarse, faultering vocal and half-forgotten lyrics was being made available to his audience who were paying their hard-earned money for the album in question. This fact was an early sign that Presley not only no longer cared about his artistry, but also that he didn't care for the public that had helped him revive his career just a few years later. The same can be said for the lacklustre and downright poor shows that were to follow. Whether Presley had a hand in picking the songs for the album or not is unimportant: if he did have a hand in it, then presumably he no longer gave a damn; if he didn't have a hand in it then that shows he didn't give a damn either. No escape on this one.
Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:45 pm
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Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:56 pm
midnightx wrote:Had RCA released it for the first time as a posthumous vault-find during the early-90s reissue campaign as part of the ‘60s box set, most likely fans would have a different level of appreciation for Elvis’ version.
Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:03 am
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:02 am
ElvisLive3August1969 wrote:I remember this was discussed before, can someone copy and paste that topic in here too?
There is nothing wrong with Elvis' performance in this! And to say it "sucks" is just stupid!
I first listened to this song on Too Much Monkey Business FTD cd which is a remix version of it, and I loved it.
And this version is great too! I agree with Doc when he said "Nothing from American Sound in 1969 "sucks." "
Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:40 am
poormadpeter wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:poormadpeter wrote:The bashing is not of the recording, despite the obviously poor performance.
Elvis' performance is clearly not "poor," there are no such performances from 1969 at American Sound. Period.poormadpeter wrote:The bashing is of the fact that it was released and the artist didn't care that a half-finished recording featuring a hoarse, faultering vocal and half-forgotten lyrics was being made available to his audience who were paying their hard-earned money for the album in question.
How odd we do not see the same laser-like venom for any number of substandard Presley releases on single and LP between 1964 and 1977, which were made available to his audience who were paying their hard-earned money for them.poormadpeter wrote:This fact was an early sign that Presley not only no longer cared about his artistry, but also that he didn't care for the public that had helped him revive his career just a few years later.
Early sign? Starting with 1970's third Las Vegas booking in barely a year's time, and the subsequent 1971 release of "Life" and "Rags To Riches" as single A-sides, and Love Letters From Elvis as an LP, savvy fans could see that the Hollywood routine and studio disinterest had been supplanted by the Vegas routine and studio disinterest.
So, again, the vitriol aimed at "Hey Jude" is baffling, and I suspect at the root of it all is the fact that it is a massive hit single written, recorded and released by the Beatles.
What complete piffle.
Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:47 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:poormadpeter wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:poormadpeter wrote:The bashing is not of the recording, despite the obviously poor performance.
Elvis' performance is clearly not "poor," there are no such performances from 1969 at American Sound. Period.poormadpeter wrote:The bashing is of the fact that it was released and the artist didn't care that a half-finished recording featuring a hoarse, faultering vocal and half-forgotten lyrics was being made available to his audience who were paying their hard-earned money for the album in question.
How odd we do not see the same laser-like venom for any number of substandard Presley releases on single and LP between 1964 and 1977, which were made available to his audience who were paying their hard-earned money for them.poormadpeter wrote:This fact was an early sign that Presley not only no longer cared about his artistry, but also that he didn't care for the public that had helped him revive his career just a few years later.
Early sign? Starting with 1970's third Las Vegas booking in barely a year's time, and the subsequent 1971 release of "Life" and "Rags To Riches" as single A-sides, and Love Letters From Elvis as an LP, savvy fans could see that the Hollywood routine and studio disinterest had been supplanted by the Vegas routine and studio disinterest.
So, again, the vitriol aimed at "Hey Jude" is baffling, and I suspect at the root of it all is the fact that it is a massive hit single written, recorded and released by the Beatles.
What complete piffle.
So much for an intelligent reply that might engender a worthy discussion. PS: you miss the point.
Thanks for stopping by.
How odd we do not see the same laser-like venom for any number of substandard Presley releases on single and LP between 1964 and 1977, which were made available to his audience who were paying their hard-earned money for them.
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