Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:52 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:Matthew wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:Truth be told, I chose to indulge in side-topics, brought forth by a few as points of argument, in order to show they have zero credibility. This was done.
Wait - didn't you earlier write ...
I removed that post, as it is not the impression I wish to leave on this topic.
Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:56 am
poormadpeter wrote:With all due respect, isn't that the equivalent of someone writing a remark and then it getting removed by the mods?
Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:00 pm
billyblues wrote:If "Don't buy it, then" is the way to go... Well, I guess we have some good argument now every time that some users start to heavily criticize certain songs from Elvis' catalogue and those who listen to 'em. Heck, if we can't discuss the merits of this release... Don't listen to the songs, then if you don't like them. People are not even speaking of some minor thing like a mistake on the printed tracklist (as happened in A Boy From Tupelo) - there are way more valid reasons to discuss the matter at hand.
Oh well. The release is out there already. Keep discussing - it seems that some things will never change, here or anywhere else.
Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:23 am
Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:31 am
Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:31 am
Matthew wrote:"Bitching over minutia" is just another way of saying "I have a low view of the complaint, and those complaining are overreacting."
Again, I say that the majority holds a different perspective, and indeed, perhaps, have higher expectations from the premium products offered by FTD. Also, as noted, this is not a simple "don't like it, don't buy it" scenario. Outside of the My Way screw-up, if the collector base embraces junky releases like this it sets a precedent for future junky releases from FTD to be put out. That would not be a positive direction.
Remember, this is just a collection of masters, masters readily available. It isn't being offered at a cheaper price. The whole 70s Masters set can be had - a 5 disc product with extensive liner notes - for £14. Or, you can get a 2 disc FTD 70 singles collection for £21. This ain't no collectors release, there's nothing collectible on it! It's merely a vanity project. And even when it's as simple as lining up some master audio files, it still gets screwed up with the inclusion of a non-single version of a song.
But yeah, bitching over minutia.
Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:09 am
karlos wrote:Can any one tell me why do fans bitch on this forum - Its all un called for - we are all fans of Elvis and there shuldnt be any bitchn or disagreements between fans - This is so un called for - every one should respect others and their viewpoints -
So cmon guys -
lets all be friends and enjoy The Kings Work And Career -
Just To Think what new members would think when they join this group and read some comments from some members -Ok - ( Just a thought guys - )
- ''Lets Be Friends ''
Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:15 am
Matthew wrote:"Bitching over minutia" is just another way of saying "I have a low view of the complaint, and those complaining are overreacting."
Again, I say that the majority holds a different perspective, and indeed, perhaps, have higher expectations from the premium products offered by FTD. Also, as noted, this is not a simple "don't like it, don't buy it" scenario. Outside of the My Way screw-up, if the collector base embraces junky releases like this it sets a precedent for future junky releases from FTD to be put out. That would not be a positive direction.
Remember, this is just a collection of masters, masters readily available. It isn't being offered at a cheaper price. The whole 70s Masters set can be had - a 5 disc product with extensive liner notes - for £14. Or, you can get a 2 disc FTD 70 singles collection for £21. This ain't no collectors release, there's nothing collectible on it! It's merely a vanity project. And even when it's as simple as lining up some master audio files, it still gets screwed up with the inclusion of a non-single version of a song.
But yeah, bitching over minutia.
Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:22 am
poormadpeter wrote:karlos wrote:Can any one tell me why do fans bitch on this forum - Its all un called for - we are all fans of Elvis and there shuldnt be any bitchn or disagreements between fans - This is so un called for - every one should respect others and their viewpoints -
So cmon guys -
lets all be friends and enjoy The Kings Work And Career -
Just To Think what new members would think when they join this group and read some comments from some members -Ok - ( Just a thought guys - )
- ''Lets Be Friends ''
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So just because we're fans we have to agree with each other?
Yeah, that makes sense.
Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:50 am
karlos wrote:poormadpeter wrote:karlos wrote:Can any one tell me why do fans bitch on this forum - Its all un called for - we are all fans of Elvis and there shuldnt be any bitchn or disagreements between fans - This is so un called for - every one should respect others and their viewpoints -
So cmon guys -
lets all be friends and enjoy The Kings Work And Career -
Just To Think what new members would think when they join this group and read some comments from some members -Ok - ( Just a thought guys - )
- ''Lets Be Friends ''
.............................................................................................................
So just because we're fans we have to agree with each other?
Yeah, that makes sense.
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Agree with ya buddy - we need to put our views across and dont argue or get mad with fellow fans - some people / fans need ta earn respect - before givn it out - Okay buddy -
If this world consists of Elvis fans - This world would be a better place - I Once heard this - Amen -
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Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:49 am
Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:01 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:The set appears to be a sentimental release driven by Roger Semon, and geared more for the European Presley fan base. That said, if you like '70s Elvis, this is a very nice collection of some of his very best recordings of the period in great quality,
Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:20 am
Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:34 am
YDKM wrote: and whilst browsing was pretty 'amazed' that 'hits of the 70's' FTD was 'out of stock' boy maybe quite a few people actually bought it after all!?![]()
Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:48 am
Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:15 am
Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:02 pm
Julian Grant wrote:I only received my copy yesterday, therefore I didn’t comment previously.drjohncarpenter wrote:The set appears to be a sentimental release driven by Roger Semon, and geared more for the European Presley fan base. That said, if you like '70s Elvis, this is a very nice collection of some of his very best recordings of the period in great quality,
I can’t better this quote and it echoes my sentiments exactly. And I welcome this release just as I would “Elvis In Demand”
Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:10 pm
Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:16 pm
Josee wrote:I bought this FTD upon release, but actually only got to play disc 1 yesterday and disc 2 today and you know what? I enjoyed it and will play it often. I think it is a good compilation and a few songs which I don't like that much, played in this context, I actually like. I'm a fan since 1958 and love the raw Elvis, but boy did he sing well in the seventies. Each decade has his bad songs and I'm not referring to movie songs before some members are starting to get ironic. For me the bad songs in the 70's are songs like "Padre", "Hurt", although I know that some love this last song. I'm thinking of buying it for a Christmas present and like sweetangeline said, the person receiving it will be surprised how vast and varied the 70's songs were. Elvis wanted to be more than a rock singer, which is no surprise with the fabulous voice he had and it's a pity that some fans are blaming him for that and in a certain way didn't want him to grow up.
Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:45 pm
poormadpeter wrote:Josee wrote:I bought this FTD upon release, but actually only got to play disc 1 yesterday and disc 2 today and you know what? I enjoyed it and will play it often. I think it is a good compilation and a few songs which I don't like that much, played in this context, I actually like. I'm a fan since 1958 and love the raw Elvis, but boy did he sing well in the seventies. Each decade has his bad songs and I'm not referring to movie songs before some members are starting to get ironic. For me the bad songs in the 70's are songs like "Padre", "Hurt", although I know that some love this last song. I'm thinking of buying it for a Christmas present and like sweetangeline said, the person receiving it will be surprised how vast and varied the 70's songs were. Elvis wanted to be more than a rock singer, which is no surprise with the fabulous voice he had and it's a pity that some fans are blaming him for that and in a certain way didn't want him to grow up.
Josee, the complaint about the release has never been that it would not be enjoyable, but that it has no right to be on a collectors label. The fact that you able to consider buying the item for a Christmas present for someone who is (presumably) not a hard-core fan only illustrates this point.
Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:12 pm
poormadpeter wrote:Josee, the complaint about the release has never been that it would not be enjoyable, but that it has no right to be on a collectors label. The fact that you able to consider buying the item for a Christmas present for someone who is (presumably) not a hard-core fan only illustrates this point.
Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:15 pm
poormadpeter wrote:Josee, the complaint about the release has never been that it would not be enjoyable, but that it has no right to be on a collectors label.
Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:21 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:Where is the FTD Rulebook?
Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:31 pm
Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:06 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:poormadpeter wrote:Josee, the complaint about the release has never been that it would not be enjoyable, but that it has no right to be on a collectors label.
No right?
Where is the FTD Rulebook? Which one has been violated? Please do share.
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