Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Venus)

Borrowed this one from you, TCB-FAN:

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One has to admit, when Venus touts sound quality, they generally aren't bullshitting.

And save one release covering June 1968 and one from January-February 1969, it's a '70s-lover's gold mine.

I have all these Doc and you are right about not bullshitting when it comes to sound quality. Owning these are like owning the tapes themselves .
I think I know the source for Venus' material but not opt to say.

I suspect the source/s are less known than known.

I'm still amazed at the quality of the unreleased (until now) 80's remakes. Not only they are good remakes, they also sound like from outer space indeed!

And here's Take 1 of "Fool" with a sort of "fixed" but faded ending (not too well done, just in a hurry):
http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/36569163/file.html

Thanks....this is what Venus should have done on this and a lots of other tracks with
similar "faults"

Oh, and the "undubbed" master of "For The Good Times" is clearly NOT from a tape source - the acetate crackles are still there and very clearly audible.

I've doctored around a little with EQ and ClickRepair and now it sounds like this:
http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/84619452/file.html

And here's Take 1 of "Fool" with a sort of "fixed" but faded ending (not too well done, just in a hurry):
http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/36569163/file.html

Is it possible that the channels on the overdubbed master of "Always On My Mind" are switched or is it just a different mix?

The master of "Burning Love" runs about four seconds longer than on "Second To None" but this is really cool - I love unedited versions!

Now that I've listened to the re-recording of "Bitter They Are, Harder They Fall", I think Elvis' vocal performance wasn't too bad.

I still don't like Elvis' squeeking vocal on "Hey Jude" but it's fun to clearly hear the MF on the ending (that shows how serious he was about that song)...

Just a few thoughts...

Any chance of uploading For Ol' Times Sake, lj1?

There you go:
http://www26.zippyshare.com/v/48913214/file.html

I have to say I can't fault Venus. I have loved all there releases. By far the best "import" label IMO.

No matter how they get them or what the source (Tape etc) they are by far the best sounding versions I have heard of unedited masters etc (unofficially released of course).

I thank you venus, I always look forward to your work.

What is next I wonder? We've had nearly all the 70s bar the Raised On Rock sessions. Id take more if those 80s remakes too!

The quality of this cd is very good.

"I like the complete "Fool" with strings very much, shame that the "string-Seperate ways" could not be included, so far it's only heard as cracky version from acetate source.

The "For ol' times sake" version is outstanding.
You have to wonder why it was left of from the FTD version of these sessions.

Just like "Kentucky rain" at the time suddenly apeared on "The other side of Memphis", "For ol time" gives newlife to a known recording.
Not that it's better, it's different, and i like it.

Whatever Venus their source is, it's impressive they got "that" source...
A very welcome release!!

And here's Take 1 of "Fool" with a sort of "fixed" but faded ending (not too well done, just in a hurry):
http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/36569163/file.html

Thanks....this is what Venus should have done on this and a lots of other tracks with
similar "faults"

Yes lets have Venus doctor and edit the original tapes just like FTD.

And here's Take 1 of "Fool" with a sort of "fixed" but faded ending (not too well done, just in a hurry):
http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/36569163/file.html

Thanks....this is what Venus should have done on this and a lots of other tracks with
similar "faults"

Yes lets have Venus doctor and edit the original tapes just like FTD.

Talking about endings of many tracks on Venus releases that has music gone for a split second.....just like fool take1 has at the very end.
Another excample is T-r-o-u-b-l-e on "Christmas Today"

I got to hear the two 1980 remakes (not exactly e-mail with MP3 annexed but oh well...).

Frankly, it may be my ears but both sound better than the actual original recordings and it's a mystery why they weren't used.

I don't know, maybe deaf ears, but that "remake" of "For Ol Times Sake" doesn't hold a candle to the original 1973 recording Elvis did at Stax. Elvis' recording still sounds great and has stood the test of time. The 1980 recording has not and it's obvious why it was NOT released.

Quite frankly, it sucks, but if you enjoy that dated ugly sound, more power to ya.

I am no friend of remakes after Elvis' death...if he wanted it to be recorded in a different way..
..he would have done it..by himself in the studio..

This Guitar Man album had one single purpose back then..riding on the wave of remixes to
enhance the wealth of the people involved...well it was the time..

I am no friend of remakes after Elvis' death...if he wanted it to be recorded in a different way..
..he would have done it..by himself in the studio..

This Guitar Man album had one single purpose back then..riding on the wave of remixes to
enhance the wealth of the people involved...well it was the time..

Yes good point, I find these recordings nice alternatives to the superior originals, were some of the remixes work and others do not, especially the songs from 1969. I'm glad FTD released the remixes though and I hope they release a volume two in the near future because I'm curious to hear the unreleased mixes of shake a hand, and I love you so, and I really don't want to know.

Any chance of uploading For Ol' Times Sake, lj1?

There you go:
http://www26.zippyshare.com/v/48913214/file.html

Thanks man, appreciate it!

Although not a patch on the perfectly understated 1973 master - it is a more than worthy rethink.

Perhaps an appearance on the 1981 "Guitar Man" album would have juxtaposed with the mainly upbeat selections Jarvis eventually chose.
That said, it was a missed opportunity not finding a slot for it on the FTD version. Especially when many noticeably inferior remakes actually did make the cut.

Last edited by elvisalisellers on Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.

According to "Elvis sessions III" the following numbers had also a "new" re recording and remain unreleased on FTD, Sony or import.

And i love you so- That's what you get for lovin' me- Funny how times slips away-
Blue eyes crying in the rain- Bitter they are harder they fall- Shake a hand-
Help me- Susan when she tried- The fool- (another) Guitar man.
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It's not that these tracks from these re-recordings are better, they are different, a nice alternative to be heard.
I remember the first time i listened to "Guitar man" on tape.
I liked it very much, i still do, but in no way that i like them more then the originals.
"Kentucky rain for instance is a very VERY good newer version, but the original remains timeless.

I got to hear the two 1980 remakes (not exactly e-mail with MP3 annexed but oh well...).

Frankly, it may be my ears but both sound better than the actual original recordings and it's a mystery why they weren't used.

I don't know, maybe deaf ears, but that "remake" of "For Ol Times Sake" doesn't hold a candle to the original 1973 recording Elvis did at Stax. Elvis' recording still sounds great and has stood the test of time. The 1980 recording has not and it's obvious why it was NOT released.

Quite frankly, it sucks, but if you enjoy that dated ugly sound, more power to ya.

I've got to agree it's horrible, like the rest of the 1980 remakes.... yuck !

Thanks for posting it, LJ1....

You're welcome! Somehow it's quite interesting, but I'd rather listen to the hauting original a-thousand times before I give this "remix" another spin again.

Oh and I'm glad VENUS doesn't tamper with the tapes, leave them like they are, for god's sake!
The editing I do is simply destined for my listening pleasure (and maybe some others on this forum, too).
I'm fully aware that I adulterate the original recordings. I just can't listen to "That's a gas!" anymore...

According to "Elvis sessions III" the following numbers had also a "new" re recording and remain unreleased on FTD, Sony or import.

And i love you so- That's what you get for lovin' me- Funny how times slips away-
Blue eyes crying in the rain- Bitter they are harder they fall- Shake a hand-
Help me- Susan when she tried- The fool- (another) Guitar man.

Thanks Johan, I would be interested to hear those versions on a possible future FTD release.
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It's not that these tracks from these re-recordings are better, they are different, a nice alternative to be heard.
I remember the first time i listened to "Guitar man" on tape.
I liked it very much, i still do, but in no way that i like them more then the originals.
"Kentucky rain for instance is a very VERY good newer version, but the original remains timeless.

I don't know, maybe deaf ears, but that "remake" of "For Ol Times Sake" doesn't hold a candle to the original 1973 recording Elvis did at Stax. Elvis' recording still sounds great and has stood the test of time.

My thoughts exactly. This is one of my favourite songs. This remake spoils the vulnerability that is so essential in the original recording.

Re-did this slightly for my own comp , my tweaked OLD TIME SAKE, give it a spin nice and full tell me what u think .........

http://en.packupload.com/TSPW2DK4X2N

I don't mind if the recording was made after Elvis death... The point is you have the opportunity to obtain this kind of stuff. I know that this kind of release is made from fan to fan. So, I'm glad with it. Thank you very much to Venus to share this stuff with us. Thank you the same way to Audionics, Straight Arrow, Gravel Road, Backdraft and some others to share this material. Because of you, Venus and others, now we can or not buy that kind of material !!! Thank you !!

Thanks Mike Do you have the new Venus CD? What do think about it ? I find all these Venus releases very essential, and of high quality.
"Moody Blue" unedited is a treasure and a nice surprise to this volume.

Thanks Mike and let us know your thoughts on this beautiful release!

"Moody Blue" unedited is a treasure and a nice surprise to this volume.

Moody blue unedited is great but this version has been out before so its not previously unreleased.....like many others on this new Venus release.

Higlight for me is "For Ol times sake"............its not better than the master but its something
different

No Sir, not yet. Too many releases bought lately and as I am in the middle of a moving it will take me some time to get this . But eventually I think I will get it. I love all the VENUS releases and my favourite are the Jungle Room sessions because of the load of unreleased takes included on them . Bye for now .

The mixes of "Fool" (Master) and "Moody Blue" contain a little too much "shake that tambourine" for my taste...

Here's "Burning Love", the unedited master (with faded ending up to the very last bit):
http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/35012069/file.html

Just listened to this CD Well for me the highlight are expletive at end of unedited fool, swearing at end of hey jude and for ol times sake sounds very different and a worthwhile listen! however i must say that despite excellent sound quality. we get here ' just a few crumbs' left from the Elvis loaf! of cource i realise that is all now thats 'new' that is left and i did enjoy this release but % wise very, VERY little is new or unheard!